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 Post subject: Re: What to do with Breno Giacomini?
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 Post subject: Re: What to do with Breno Giacomini?
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Honestly, barring injuries, I'm done with him. For a stagnant offense, we simply can't have his stupid hot-headed crap. I'm pissed. Teammates are going to start hating him too if he's constantly costing them. Dudes, something like 55 yards of penalties in 5 quarters of football. One guy simply cannot cause you that much yardage EVER.

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Could someone explain his two goof ups? I was traveling home from a weekend get away.

He had a completely unnecessary holding penalty that wiped out a 56-yard pass to Tate in the 1st quarter and then had another unnecessary roughness penalty for a late hit after Obomanu had an 11-yard run at the end of the 1st quarter. Pete benched him for the 2nd quarter as a message to pull his head out of his @$$.

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 Post subject: Re: What to do with Breno Giacomini?
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Could someone explain his two goof ups? I was traveling home from a weekend get away.

He had a completely unnecessary holding penalty that wiped out a 56-yard pass to Tate in the 1st quarter and then had another unnecessary roughness penalty for a late hit after Obomanu had an 11-yard run at the end of the 1st quarter. Pete benched him for the 2nd quarter as a message to pull his head out of his @$$.


Tanks man. What a meathead. Glad PC benched his ass if even for just awhile.


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He just needs to remember when to turn it on and off.


The whistle would be a good place to start. ;)

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Did you see the look on his face standing on the sidelines watching the offense without him? He looked truly stricken. Lets hope that's the start of something great.

Also I'd wager that everyone on this team is trying to show the defense they are tough too. Gotta be catching.

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Giacomini is a freaking dirtbag and I like it. Although I dont condone the penalties ( the timing is unreal), I do like the fact that our offensive line has a thugish kinda unSeattle like feel to it. Remember when our o-line was considered "soft"?


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I dunno but step number one has to be "wax eyebrows", he looked like an angry muppet when they took him out.

SERIOUSLY. he looked like Bert's bully big brother...

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Did you see the look on his face standing on the sidelines watching the offense without him? He looked truly stricken. Lets hope that's the start of something great.

Also I'd wager that everyone on this team is trying to show the defense they are tough too. Gotta be catching.

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Giacomini is a freaking dirtbag and I like it. Although I dont condone the penalties ( the timing is unreal), I do like the fact that our offensive line has a thugish kinda unSeattle like feel to it. Remember when our o-line was considered "soft"?


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Could someone explain his two goof ups? I was traveling home from a weekend get away.

Pete benched him for the 2nd quarter as a message to pull his head out of his @$$.


...and it's about time. That was a 'leap forward' I've been waiting to see from Pete. Disciplined play requires you make players accountable for their actions. Good on ya, Pete!


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Run left...sit him

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I saw him late in the game walk away from the pile, after some shoving, with his arms up like dude this time it's not me.

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We still have to play him, he's our best option right now. But the leash should be short. He's hurt the team a lot.

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I don't know which one to be more agitated at, Giacomini or Okung. They have both been killing us lately. The penalties are drive killers and people will be watching film and preying on that in a game. Like others have said I like that physicality during the play, but jeez rein it in once the whistle blows Breno! Pete was absolutely right to bench him today!

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I though Okung had a relatively clean game today.

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 Post subject: Re: What to do with Breno Giacomini?
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I'd like to think that Breno will get it together now that he got benched for a series.

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 Post subject: Re: What to do with Breno Giacomini?
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I think we need to keep the best players we have on the field. Breno is our best option at RT, especially to help Lynch.



why? the offense isn't scoring that much as it is, he's just an insurance policy insuring they wont score...

if you become more of a liability than an asset its time... ;)

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 Post subject: Re: What to do with Breno Giacomini?
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He's hateful. I want his Jersey. I hate the procedural penalties, I love the personal fouls. Bench him during the game to put his anger in check, but please let him Piss off and dominate everyone prior to benching.


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Giacomini is a freaking dirtbag and I like it. Although I dont condone the penalties ( the timing is unreal), I do like the fact that our offensive line has a thugish kinda unSeattle like feel to it. Remember when our o-line was considered "soft"?


Yeah, and now it's considered "self-eviscerating". That's a lateral move, not an improvement. I'm glad Pete "Rah-Rah" Carroll is being a typical no-nonsense coach with this guy.

Who replaced Breno when he came out? How'd he do?

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We worry so much about this because..? Our offense has so much trouble making points.


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Who replaced Breno when he came out? How'd he do?


Omiyale. Didn't miss a beat in the run game. In fact Lynch's first run was a good one.

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I though Okung had a relatively clean game today.

No?


He had one O-hold for ten yards today, so I may have been a little pissed from last week. Point being he is just as guilty as anybody for the 65 yards of penalties we incurred today. Our Offense is on the cusp of greatness and the penalties are exacerbating the negatives.

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They either annonced the wrong number on that play or just decided to call a hold for no reason whatsoever, Okung wasn't even in the same stratosphere of a holding penalty on that play, nice clean block by him on that one.

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They either annonced the wrong number on that play or just decided to call a hold for no reason whatsoever, Okung wasn't even in the same stratosphere of a holding penalty on that play, nice clean block by him on that one.


kinda what I thought, everyone payed to watch cam play today so the refs were just doing their part I suppose?

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I was watching it w/o the sound at a bar and there were a few plays that were non existent on the replay...

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Short leash for sure.I love his edge he plays with but he needs to have more control.Plus the refs cut him no slack.


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Evil_Shenanigans wrote:
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I though Okung had a relatively clean game today.

No?


He had one O-hold for ten yards today, so I may have been a little pissed from last week. Point being he is just as guilty as anybody for the 65 yards of penalties we incurred today. Our Offense is on the cusp of greatness and the penalties are exacerbating the negatives.


that was never a hold in a million years to be fair, the announcers reckoned they got the number wrong because there's no way you could call it a hold


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Short leash for sure.I love his edge he plays with but he needs to have more control.Plus the refs cut him no slack.


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Eyebrows Giacomini needs to figure his # out right quick! I don't know how Tom Cable hasn't thrown a rock cross at this dude on the sideline of a game yet...

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Was thinking the same .

remotely controlled since he doesn't appear to control himself. drop him to the ground if he starts stupid crap again.


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I have heard interviews with him on the radio. He does not appear to be stupid while talking. However his 1 play in this game in the 1st quarter was good for a 70 yard negative. He had 45 net in his last game.

This offense cannot afford this and this is on Cable to get it straightened out.

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I re-watch Seahawks games looking at specific guys and Breno is getting a bit of an unfair reputation. Of the 3 personal foul penalties on Breno the past two games only one of them was legit...the other two he clearly knocked guys down before the whistle was blown. He is getting flagged on reputation. He finishes off blocks, which really ticks off opposing players, especially the ones he pancakes.


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I re-watch Seahawks games looking at specific guys and Breno is getting a bit of an unfair reputation. Of the 3 personal foul penalties on Breno the past two games only one of them was legit...the other two he clearly knocked guys down before the whistle was blown. He is getting flagged on reputation. He finishes off blocks, which really ticks off opposing players, especially the ones he pancakes.


I agree cover, Breno plays to the whistle. He is a big reason we get those 2-3 extra yards on no gains. He is the fighter in a phone booth. His hold was a hand placement hold. He flat out beat his man. The DE went low and breno leaned on him. His mistake was pulling his left arm round (i think charles) instead on over his shoulder. If he would have gotten his arm completely over the top of the DE's shoulder and pushed down, no call.

O, did decent, I think he might be a slight better in pass pro but he is no where near as good as Breno in the mauling department. He missed on some key blocks at the 2nd level and on the line that cost us big yards.

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PC said something pretty funny in his Monday press conference ("PC" -- press conference -- is that a coincidence? I think not).

Asked about the Breno situation and penalties in general, he said something like, "well, whatever I'm doing isn't working that well".

I too like the fact that Breno was benched. Breno > Omiyale, but the big guy needs to learn restraint.


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