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What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:23 am
  • "The circumstances rolled just at this time, and he could have four or five games left in him, maybe that’s what we need.”

    From https://www.seahawks.com/news/pete-carr ... hawn-lynch

    From now including the SB is potentially five games. But only one on the regular season clock.

    Do playoff salaries count against the cap? Or are playoff possibilities "baked into" yearly contracts (the one Marshawn signed is for a year-long contract, but backdated to March 2019).

    Anyone see how much we're paying Marshawn yet?
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 7:26 am
  • I’m more concerned about his bong hit than his cap hit. Hopefully he can pass the test.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 8:43 am
  • If he started abstaining 12/8 (day Penny got hurt), then with cardio training, drinking lots of water and eating steaks could give him a clean test. (Steaks b/c they contain creatinine, which is what tests measure to make sure the pee hasn't been internally "diluted."

    But if he does piss dirty, he gets a warning. And to be fair, they'd have to wait 2-4 weeks to piss test him again to make sure it wasn't the same incident.

    Look, it's no secret that Marshawn smokes weed. But clearly, this was an issue that he and Hawks had figured out before maybe even 12/12.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:08 am
  • To the money issue, I'm guessing it isn't real high. The most significant part might be found in an attached performance incentive clause. I hope he earns it!
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:40 am
  • It's not the cap "hit" I'm worried about. The money isn't going to be that "high".

    :sarcasm_off:
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 9:53 am
  • brimsalabim wrote:I’m more concerned about his bong hit than his cap hit. Hopefully he can pass the test.


    Literally made me spit up my Monster energy drink... :P
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:39 am
  • Players get "game checks" every week of the regular season... so 17 total (typically).

    The NFL pays the players once the playoffs start... the team does not so playoff checks don't affect a team's cap space.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 10:43 am
  • onanygivensunday wrote:Players get "game checks" every week of the regular season... so 17 total (typically).

    The NFL pays the players once the playoffs start... the team does not so playoff checks don't affect a team's cap space.



    Yep, which is what makes his contract interesting.

    Week 17 basically has to account for his hypothetical salary through the playoffs too.

    The 25k the NFL is giving per game for the the first two rounds and the 50k for the next round ain't really meaningful.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:09 am
  • Popeyejones wrote:
    onanygivensunday wrote:Players get "game checks" every week of the regular season... so 17 total (typically).

    The NFL pays the players once the playoffs start... the team does not so playoff checks don't affect a team's cap space.



    Yep, which is what makes his contract interesting.

    Week 17 basically has to account for his hypothetical salary through the playoffs too.

    The 25k the NFL is giving per game for the the first two rounds and the 50k for the next round ain't really meaningful.


    Agreed. ML is not coming up here to earn less than $100K for one game from us plus $50K.

    It's interesting none of the journos have addressed this, especially as his agent Tweeted a picture of the contract (but not the pay structure). I thought reporting against the cap (however little) was an NFL requirement. Overthecap even has Mone and Dakota Watson's numbers, which are relatively miniscule.

    But crickets on what Marshawn's getting.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:17 pm
  • Does it really matter? Over the cap says there is $5million in cap space. NFL pays for the playoffs. They could pay him $100,000 per carry and be more than fine.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:33 pm
  • Well yeah it matters if they're withholding one player's cap hit versus another's for any reason if the rule is to report all players.

    https://overthecap.com/salary-cap/seattle-seahawks/

    From this, you can see what Dekota Watson and Bryan Mone are making against the cap, even though they were just signed. This tracker is almost real time for everyone else. If that's the rule, it should hold for ML and Turbin just as much as for anyone else.

    Question though, can clubs sign players in the postseason and "contribute" cap toward what the NFL is paying them?
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:37 pm
  • Contract wasn't signed until after regular close-of-business hours, right? How the hell fast do you people want this stuff to get reported, anyway?!? Jeez Louise, everyone just calm your tits.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:45 pm
  • GeekHawk wrote:Contract wasn't signed until after regular close-of-business hours, right? How the hell fast do you people want this stuff to get reported, anyway?!? Jeez Louise, everyone just calm your tits.


    I'm just irritated that the number didn't get reported if it's supposed to. That would have been pretty easy yesterday given that the agent Tweeted parts of the contract itself.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:48 pm
  • Why would the salary number get reported prior to the contract getting signed? That's pretty cart-before-the-horse backwards, man.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:54 pm
  • I think the NFL has to approve it too. Just like the signings. Which was announced as official less than an hour ago.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 12:55 pm
  • Wait, are you suggesting that the contract ML's agent Tweeted didn't get signed?

    If it did get signed yesterday, the number could have been reported that day. I don't care if it's $10M or $1M for a prorated year, it's something that is usually divulged when players sign.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 1:21 pm
  • The Post season is considered a new season, remember when the Seahawks signed a kicker who had played all the regular season for a team that missed the playoffs. Also the payments which are listed in the NFL Record and Fact book are set amounts per game no matter who you are or what you did. The Seahawks also signed a wide receiver as a back up who came on for one play when the ball went no where near him and he still got his $28k.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Tue Dec 24, 2019 11:23 pm
  • It can't be much. He is playing 1 game out of 16.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Wed Dec 25, 2019 12:04 am
  • brimsalabim wrote:I’m more concerned about his bong hit than his cap hit. Hopefully he can pass the test.


    There are articles out there stating that with the NFL substance testing it is impossible for Lynch to get suspended in 2019. Based on not being in the protocol when he retired and how a first positive test would be handled he can play until April next year prior to any suspension.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Wed Dec 25, 2019 9:50 pm
  • To answer the OP's question about cap hit if I understand it right it would be 1/17th of whatever annual salary they agreed upon and someone said on the radio, KJR, that they would have to use his last contract numbers from the Raiders in order to sign him like they did and that was 5 Mil a year, according to KJR, and that would be just under 300K.

    As far as drug testing goes, for those NFL players not "in the system" for flunking a prior test, and Marshawn isn't part of that, the annual testing window is before the season began so if I understand it right, he won't be subject to pissing in a bottle since he never "officially" retired from the NFL.

    I may be wrong, but that's the way it was explained on KJR by I think Cliff Avril, but don't hold me to that, it may have been someone else that knew well what the NFL policies about drug testing are.

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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Wed Dec 25, 2019 10:45 pm
  • Someone said it up thread but some don’t seem to have seen it. All contracts have to be approved by the NFL to be official so there is no salary reporting by the team. The NFL has that number once they approve the contract. The question here is the process by which they make that information available so it gets published by sites like over the cap. With the holidays and all it just may take a bit longer but it will come out eventually and it won’t be an issue. I don’t think I’ve seen a contract structure by this front office that is really out of whack.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:05 pm
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Thu Dec 26, 2019 1:20 pm
  • The question is irrelevant. Tons of cap.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Sat Dec 28, 2019 11:44 am
  • Speaking of cap space and cap hits, I found this tiny bit of information on another page. Thought it was interesting.

    "No June 1 allocations this year with CBA in final year

    In March [Todd Gurley] will not only guarantee his 2019 salary but also his 2020 roster bonus of $7.55 million. Once that happens the cost to release Gurley in 2020 would be over $20 million on the cap. Because this is the final league year of the CBA there is no June 1 provision so they would need to absorb that full number if they were to cut him.

    This is the first contract that seems to have some acknowledgement of a potential work stoppage in 2020 based on the roster bonus language."

    I know we are in the playoffs, but always think about the future too.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:09 pm
  • Largent80 wrote:The question is irrelevant. Tons of cap.


    Also, why does it matter if it's the end of the season and it's only through the existing season?
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Sat Dec 28, 2019 1:58 pm
  • Never irrelevant!!

    What we don't use this season can roll over next year and give us more to work with...so yes it matters.

    He is making league minimum. About 60K per game.
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Re: What's Marshawn's cap hit?
Sun Dec 29, 2019 2:31 pm
  • Seymour wrote:Never irrelevant!!

    What we don't use this season can roll over next year and give us more to work with...so yes it matters.

    He is making league minimum. About 60K per game.


    Yep. He’s playing because he wants to play and Seattle and Oakland are the two teams he wants to play for. Salary is secondary.

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