Why is Philadelphia favored over Seattle?

I'm watching ESPN NFL Live right now, and they give Philadelphia a 57 percent chance to win.

FanDuel has us as a two point underdog https://www.fanduel.com/theduel/posts/s ... dsznvrrjff

How is that even realistic? Where are they getting these numbers from?

SantaClaraHawk":i2dqth09 said:

I'm watching ESPN NFL Live right now, and they give Philadelphia a 57 percent chance to win.

FanDuel has us as a two point underdog https://www.fanduel.com/theduel/posts/s ... dsznvrrjff

How is that even realistic? Where are they getting these numbers from?

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Maybe you should bet big on Seattle if you think its crazy.

It's cause the entire universe hates us, gives us no respect and is even out to make sure we never win another game again by training the refs and schedule makers to make terrible calls against us on purpose and schedule at least 12 10:00am east coast games per year, even though that's illegal.

Take the Hawks and the points.

(This is in no way a recommendation and is offered for entertainment purposes only)

:twisted:

SantaClaraHawk":2c2we4sg said:

I'm watching ESPN NFL Live right now, and they give Philadelphia a 57 percent chance to win.

FanDuel has us as a two point underdog https://www.fanduel.com/theduel/posts/s ... dsznvrrjff

How is that even realistic? Where are they getting these numbers from?

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considering home teams are generally given an automatic 3 points, I'd say that 2 points is fair. Pretty much every game we play in seems to be a tossup. Luckily (or skillfully) I'm quite happy that we are usually on the winning side of those toss ups.

I don't bet online despite really enjoying the activity. (But if I did, I would have to take this bet.)

My question, though, is why these odds exist at all.

Sgt. Largent":1s294fk8 said:

It's cause the entire universe hates us, gives us no respect and is even out to make sure we never win another game again by training the refs and schedule makers to make terrible calls against us on purpose and schedule at least 12 10:00am east coast games per year, even though that's illegal.

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Dude. Your schtick is really growing tiresome.

GeekHawk":36bbg8eq said:

Sgt. Largent":36bbg8eq said:

It's cause the entire universe hates us, gives us no respect and is even out to make sure we never win another game again by training the refs and schedule makers to make terrible calls against us on purpose and schedule at least 12 10:00am east coast games per year, even though that's illegal.

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Dude. Your schtick is really growing tiresome.

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Just think how the rest of us feel seeing these same tired everyone hates us threads week after week.

Here we have the most unbiased thing in sports, betting odds............that are created by insanely complex algorithms by cold hearted greedy money grubbing casino sportsbooks that only care about one thing and one thing only, being right in order to make the most money possible.

But that doesn't matter to the chicken littles here, it's an ATTACK!!

10am start on the road with the Hawks barely beating their opponents,,,,,,the spot sounds about right to me. Its a toss up, pick em game.

Sgt. Largent":223r8tv8 said:

GeekHawk":223r8tv8 said:

Sgt. Largent":223r8tv8 said:

It's cause the entire universe hates us, gives us no respect and is even out to make sure we never win another game again by training the refs and schedule makers to make terrible calls against us on purpose and schedule at least 12 10:00am east coast games per year, even though that's illegal.

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Dude. Your schtick is really growing tiresome.

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Just think how the rest of us feel seeing these same tired everyone hates us threads week after week.

Here we have the most unbiased thing in sports, betting odds............that are created by insanely complex algorithms by cold hearted greedy money grubbing casino sportsbooks that only care about one thing and one thing only, being right in order to make the most money possible.

But that doesn't matter to the chicken littles here, it's an ATTACK!!

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Plus, they're not really trying to pick winners or losers, they're trying to balance the betting pool so they don't lose a ton on an upset. They make their profit off the vigorish, but a huge upset could actually :shock: cost them money.

Philly is a good team, don't let the record fool you. They can get hot down the stretch and have done it plenty of times. I expect another tight battle down to the wire.

Philly is a couple dropped TD's away from a great record. Solid offense, good D-line, at home, early game for west coast team.

Absolutely, good team w/out a doubt. They need this win bad, are at home and have a solid Defense. Shoot, they just held Lord Brady and the Pats to 17 points. Wentz is a solid QB, very tough and makes a lot of clutch plays.

sutz":gbuiafb3 said:

Sgt. Largent":gbuiafb3 said:

GeekHawk":gbuiafb3 said:

Sgt. Largent":gbuiafb3 said:

It's cause the entire universe hates us, gives us no respect and is even out to make sure we never win another game again by training the refs and schedule makers to make terrible calls against us on purpose and schedule at least 12 10:00am east coast games per year, even though that's illegal.

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Dude. Your schtick is really growing tiresome.

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Just think how the rest of us feel seeing these same tired everyone hates us threads week after week.

Here we have the most unbiased thing in sports, betting odds............that are created by insanely complex algorithms by cold hearted greedy money grubbing casino sportsbooks that only care about one thing and one thing only, being right in order to make the most money possible.

But that doesn't matter to the chicken littles here, it's an ATTACK!!

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Plus, they're not really trying to pick winners or losers, they're trying to balance the betting pool so they don't lose a ton on an upset. They make their profit off the vigorish, but a huge upset could actually :shock: cost them money.

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Yep, they want the same amount of money bet on the two teams.

pittpnthrs":3fxt28z3 said:

10am start on the road with the Hawks barely beating their opponents,,,,,,the spot sounds about right to me. Its a toss up, pick em game.

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^^^^yeah, when you think about it, it's not much of a reach.

DomeHawk":3gx8o1q8 said:

pittpnthrs":3gx8o1q8 said:

10am start on the road with the Hawks barely beating their opponents,,,,,,the spot sounds about right to me. Its a toss up, pick em game.

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^^^^yeah, when you think about it, it's not much of a reach.

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Aren't we 3-0 at 10am this season?

:snack:

sutz":3t891ok5 said:

DomeHawk":3t891ok5 said:

pittpnthrs":3t891ok5 said:

10am start on the road with the Hawks barely beating their opponents,,,,,,the spot sounds about right to me. Its a toss up, pick em game.

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^^^^yeah, when you think about it, it's not much of a reach.

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Aren't we 3-0 at 10am this season?

:snack:

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Yes we are by a grand total of 13 points (4.3 per game)

kidhawk":3sa9yqm4 said:

sutz":3sa9yqm4 said:

DomeHawk":3sa9yqm4 said:

pittpnthrs":3sa9yqm4 said:

10am start on the road with the Hawks barely beating their opponents,,,,,,the spot sounds about right to me. Its a toss up, pick em game.

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^^^^yeah, when you think about it, it's not much of a reach.

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Aren't we 3-0 at 10am this season?

:snack:

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Yes we are by a grand total of 13 points (4.3 per game)

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By this season's standards, those are blowouts. :twisted:

SantaClaraHawk":3irrzg45 said:

I don't bet online despite really enjoying the activity. (But if I did, I would have to take this bet.)

My question, though, is why these odds exist at all.

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Talked to a guy last night and he said that his cousin said that last weekend was very bad on the betting line. They lost thare booty. So I believe in the fact that they are gonna try to recoup their booty by making incorrect assumptions and get people to bet on the wrong direction. Remember misdirection is not just a football term...it is also a football term.

Vegas odds are extremely accurate. Not because they are attempting to predict the outcome, but because by attemping to split the money they turn it into a prediction market which excel due to the Wisdom of the Crowds. The eight CBS NFL "experts" are a combined 621-659-16 against the line (48%) this season which means they would be losing money right now if they were betting with their own money. They at least get credit for trying to predict against the spread while the vast majority do not.

The Seahawks are not only undefeated on the road but they have actually won five consecutive 10 am starts dating back to last season. However, they have a long history of struggling in 10AM games prior to that streak and so their status of underdogs reflects that people think our recent history is the outlier.