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Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:54 pm
  • Ruminations on the 49ers Game is a post-game thread for everyone on .NET to post their thoughts (ruminations) about the game.

    Seattle wanted this game so bad and came to play, had they not fumbled 4 times, they would've blown the 9ers out. Jimmy was not ready for the bright lights. He repeatedly threw the ball into tight coverage and was lucky he didn't have 6 picks in this game. Seattle offensively was conservative, but warranted given the circumstances, and the opponent.

    Defensively they changed things up. Pete is crazy like a fox. He was playing bail, and off coverage consistently for like the last month with his DBs. In this game they got into their faces and pressed, and looked like the Seahawks defense of old. They also moved Clowney to Leo, which I thought he would play from the jump when he was acquired. I don't know if this was a crazy Pete move, or he finally realized after half of a season that Ansah was terrible at Leo, and moved Clowney to that spot. The point I am trying to make is. He should've have been playing Leo the whole season, as that is to the flex/open side and it is hard to double team. Where as a 5-tech lines up on the TE side, and is easy to double. Which was happening to Clowney. Review this game and you will see hardly any Clowney double teams due to this switch. Clowney was unreal in this game at Leo, and the Seahawks are going to rush the passer well for the rest of the season if he is playing in that spot. They really only have one obvious weak link on defense right now, and that is #24. The sooner he isn't on the field, the better.

    The other big factor was George Kittle was missing, he would've torn the Seahawks a new one, but I feel like it was fairgame as Seattle was missing Dissly, Dickson, Willson, (their top 3 TEs), and Lockett left with an injury. That is also why I have been pushing for the team to get another weapon after Dissly went down. What scared me was if Lockett got hurt, and then having no top targets for Wilson. Josh Gordon is a huge get if he can keep his nose clean.

    I would love to write more on this game but I just want to go outside and run up and & the street like a crazy person!

    Enjoy my game notes, and final thoughts.


    Random Player & Coach Notes Taken During the Game (Literally Random):


    #24 has been having a disastrous season, and he somehow found a way to play even worse in this game. He shouldn't be allowed to get on the plane. Cut him at halftime. He had the illegal contact, which nullified the INT, while also getting burned repeatedly resulting in a TD. He is directly responsible for all 10 first half points.

    Ejecting #24 out of the stadium with a catapult wouldn't be a bad idea.

    3rd and a short 1? Get cute, it's the Seahawks way!

    If everyone around Russell Wilson would stop screwing up for a series, he would put some points on the board.

    Iupati didn't pick up the blitz, allowing a free runner. Cost the team points.

    J. Reed finally making his presence felt. Clowney who has really brought it tonight, is there for the timely scoop and score.

    Sherman still plays the run well. Shed DK's block and put a good textbook shot on Lockett.

    Phenomonal 3rd and short call by Schotty. I have been asking for that play call for years. They want to overplay the inside zone. Audible to a toss the other way for the easy gain.

    Shifting Clowney to Leo has energized the pass rush! I thought that's where he should've been playing in the first place. As it is hard to double the flex side.

    Quandre Diggs paying dividends. A shame that Blair had to make way. They need to find a way to get them both on the field. Like ditching #24.

    Carson fumbles. Just put the ball in Wilson's hands and let him win the game! How hard is this! And finally! They let Wilson keep the ball for 2 consecutive plays, and he hits pay dirt! Helluva catch by Hollister, but he was covered. Wilson with the feathery touch to throw him open.

    I've been commenting to my brother for the last few weeks that Jimmy G would crap the bed under the bright lights. I didn't have the balls to make the prediction on .NET though, as I don't like having egg on the face. Or maybe I did? I don't recall, probably didn't.

    That is what you do on short yardage, Pete! Cram it down there throats!

    Wilson was swarmed on what appeared to be a screen. No bueno.

    You got to be kidding me. It is a requirement to make every game interesting. No easy wins aloud!

    Burning timeouts. No bueno.

    Clowney at Leo has wrecked this game. Shame on the coaches for playing him at 5-tech, while Ziggy did nothing for half-the season. Clowney is a 'Rari, he should have been playing Leo the whole year.

    Jacob Hollister is more athletic than I had originally thought. He can be a nice #2 TE that teams forget about.

    I am for going for it, whether it works or not. I can live with the results. And...... they chose to kick.
    It's funny, Pete Carroll trusts everyone, but his QB, even his shaky kicker. But at least he made it.

    KJ with the INT drop, could cost them the game. Jimmy will never win a Superbowl btw, if you're wondering.

    OT of course, please get the ball... God are listening?!

    Yes, Seahawks will now win the game with Wilson!

    Nvm. Wilson throws his MVP hopes down the drain, potentially. :(

    He shanked it! Now it is time for Wilson's redemption. With a bunch of backups as Lockett has been out! :shock:

    Wilson hit DK perfectly on the 50/50 he couldin't catch it. Those feel like 10/90 balls.

    OMG! a 3rd chance for Wilson to win the game. Unbelievable.

    And Jason Meyers makes the FG? I am stunned.

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    FINAL THOUGHTS

    This win puts a ton of pressure on Jimmy G and the 9ers to perform the rest of the way. Had they won, they could've taken a deep breath, relaxed, and could play foot loose and fancy free the rest of the way. Not anymore.

    Seattle has thoroughly exposed Jimmy G in this game, and teams are going to play them the same way going forward.

    This is huge! Just not in the standings, but the mental stress that the 9ers are going to have to endure, while playing a murderers row of opponents upcoming.

    I would make the Seahawks the favorites to win the division now, as I don't think Jimmy can handle the schedule that is upcoming for him.

    The Seahawks are a measly 1 game back in the loss column, and I feel like Jimmy G is going to drop a few more games this year. The #1 Seed is a real possibility at this point. Wilson keeps on trucking, despite not having that signature drive at the end to solidify his MVP candidacy. He will have many more national games to state his case. A shame he couldn't get it done tonight, but I will take the win every single damn time.

    Bask in the glow of this win, as all of those 9er cockroaches magically transform into crickets down the stretch of this season. :D
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Mon Nov 11, 2019 10:59 pm
  • I kinda called it last game rumination thread.

    Carroll was playing possum & unveiled a totally different defensive scheme.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:04 pm
  • HOLY MOLY WHAT A GAME!

    WHO NEEDS SKYDIVING AND WHITEWATER RIVER RAFTING WHEN THE PETE CARROLL/RUSS WILSON SEAHAWKS ARE A THING? :3-1:

    :49ersmall:

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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:14 pm
  • I feel like Clowney took the defense on his back tonight and there was an unspoken ultimatum that they better play like he was playing or else. He was a man possessed. The other players on the d might not be as freakishly physically gifted, but mostly they kicked up their effort to a level I don't think I remember seeing from them as a whole from against a quality opponent. Flowers had some key moments, Wagner was his steady self and looked to give it his all getting the defense fired up for this game. Woods, Ford, Jefferson and Reed really seemed to support Clowney well overall. They looked to be in really good position to clean up for him where in other games no one else would be around to benefit from his havoc.

    It was maddening to see all the dropped INT's but Diggs looks to be a ball hawk and have the type of aggressiveness seen from Blair but with a lot of NFL experience to back It up(I too want to see Blair and Diggs together in at safety). I really feel like his attitude and play will become infectious for the back end. Griffin has already been a baller. Flowers shows flashes here and there but I think Diggs is going to bring that attitude and physicality they need there week in and week out, especially if Pete doesn't try to play him and Blair together. If Pete does somehow decide to play them both together...they will be laying some lumber for sure every week. I really see potential for this to become a really dominant defense by the end of the season, right when they will need to be that the most.


    On Offense, I have said it on another thread and will say it again..Hollister I think sometimes forgets he's a TE and thinks he's a feature back. he is, like Carson, looking to initiate contact and rough up the defense. He was launching himself at the defense like a battering ram whenever possible. Defenses are going to hate tackling him as much as Carson. Already it seems like he has Wilson's trust and is a go to guy for him this early on. Having multiple pieces on offense with that physicality rather than just one is going to be good for knocking defenses back in the chops later in the year. This is before even bringing up that there are 3 big and physical wr's out there catching balls as well. Defenses are going to be so worn out that Locket is going to have an easier time getting open as the season goes on(provided he doesn't have a serious injury).

    Props to Pete for sticking with Myers, even last week when we were all mad as hell about the misses. It paid off dividends this week and though I am not going to be all in yet, maybe we have the pro bowl kicker back that he was last year.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:15 pm
  • Fade wrote:Wilson keeps on trucking, despite not having that signature drive at the end to solidify his MVP candidacy. He will have many more national games to state his case. A shame he couldn't get it done tonight, but I will take the win every single damn time.

    And I guarantee you Russ feels exactly the same way. The wins are what matter to him too
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:17 pm
  • That’s good stuff man. I really appreciate you

    This was a very, very entertaining game to watch- it had the same kind of feels as watching the games in ‘12-‘13.

    We’re 8-2 going into the BYE and essentially control our destiny for the division.

    Our defense flipped the scene today; it was grand! A couple of missed opportunities late and they could’ve stolen the whole show. Loved to see it. Clowney was fricking amazing. Absolutely dominant; great also to see Poona and Reed get into the backfield consistently.

    Huge win. Go Hawks!
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:20 pm
  • Quote "Ejecting #24 out of the stadium with a catapult wouldn't be a bad idea."

    :177692:
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:23 pm
  • Taylor was abysmal. Please Pete, Amadi has to be better at the nickel
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:25 pm
  • Natethegreat wrote:Quote "Ejecting #24 out of the stadium with a catapult wouldn't be a bad idea."

    :177692:


    Really hope Amadi is able to use the bye week to make a play for the nickel position
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:32 pm
  • It’s was a game where Seattle was playing 3 teams. Niners, zebras, and themselves.
    Tired of talking about the zebras steering performance. The Hawks shot themselves in the d*ck enough times tonight to lose.
    Luckily SC couldn’t take advantage of it. I’ll take the W!
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Mon Nov 11, 2019 11:38 pm
  • Hollister is playing like Mark Bavarro when he has the ball, look him up, yes it will take it's toll long term but damn DB's will hate trying to tackle him, and he runs a 4.5 I heard.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:09 am
  • Hockey Guy wrote:I kinda called it last game rumination thread.

    Carroll was playing possum & unveiled a totally different defensive scheme.


    You did, nice call. I thought there was a small chance, but not likely. I am glad they did.

    Clowney to Leo, with Jefferson at 5-tech changes everything as well. A nickleback change has to be coming. That position has to get better by default, because it can't get any worse.

    PS It's late and I am going to bed. I look forward to reading everyone's comments tomorrow. :D
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:24 am
  • Fade wrote:
    Hockey Guy wrote:I kinda called it last game rumination thread.

    Carroll was playing possum & unveiled a totally different defensive scheme.


    You did, nice call. I thought there was a small chance, but not likely. I am glad they did.

    Clowney to Leo, with Jefferson at 5-tech changes everything as well. A nickleback change has to be coming. That position has to get better by default, because it can't get any worse.

    PS It's late and I am going to bed. I look forward to reading everyone's comments tomorrow. :D

    Nice work as usual Fade. :2thumbs:
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:54 am
  • Boy oh boy what a game.

    Hawks defense was amazing. Clowney was amazing. That play by Shaq in OT was beautiful. The offense was eh and that pick by russ in ot was horrible.

    The defense definitely picked up the offense this game which is great as offense has been the reason for this 7 and 2 start. So to get 8th win and see this defense step is awesome.

    Our running backs have slippery hands. That has to be fixed. Myers stepped up huge.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:42 am
  • Shanegotyou11 wrote:Boy oh boy what a game.

    Hawks defense was amazing. Clowney was amazing. That play by Shaq in OT was beautiful. The offense was eh and that pick by russ in ot was horrible.

    The defense definitely picked up the offense this game which is great as offense has been the reason for this 7 and 2 start. So to get 8th win and see this defense step is awesome.

    Our running backs have slippery hands. That has to be fixed. Myers stepped up huge.



    To be fair, the 49'ers defense is legit. Luckily the Seahawks defense matched intensity last night
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:59 am
  • Glad to see Shaquem get some defensive snaps to help the pass rush.

    Keep playing Clowney as the LEO, and as long as Ansah's with us, relegate him to what he can handle. Which isn't much.

    Quandre and Gordon stepped up fantastically, and thankfully Myers looks like he overcame the yips.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:12 am
  • I texted my niner friend pregame that i couldn't believe Vegas was giving us nearly a touchdown as the underdog. Fyi Vegas dummies, we have the league MVP and a coach who thrives in Primetime. I understood the nod to San Fran, but not by an entire td. Hell, look at how many games Russ has EVER lost by more than a td for some narrative on why that was a disrespectful line.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:49 am
  • I agreed with everything the OP said except the Sherm bit
    “ Sherman still plays the run well. Shed DK's block and put a good textbook shot on Lockett.”
    He held DK lost that battle and went helmet to helmet on Lockett.. it was a chump move, and easily should have been called.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 9:25 am
  • niveky wrote:I feel like Clowney took the defense on his back tonight and there was an unspoken ultimatum that they better play like he was playing or else. He was a man possessed. The other players on the d might not be as freakishly physically gifted, but mostly they kicked up their effort to a level I don't think I remember seeing from them as a whole from against a quality opponent. Flowers had some key moments, Wagner was his steady self and looked to give it his all getting the defense fired up for this game. Woods, Ford, Jefferson and Reed really seemed to support Clowney well overall. They looked to be in really good position to clean up for him where in other games no one else would be around to benefit from his havoc.

    It was maddening to see all the dropped INT's but Diggs looks to be a ball hawk and have the type of aggressiveness seen from Blair but with a lot of NFL experience to back It up(I too want to see Blair and Diggs together in at safety). I really feel like his attitude and play will become infectious for the back end. Griffin has already been a baller. Flowers shows flashes here and there but I think Diggs is going to bring that attitude and physicality they need there week in and week out, especially if Pete doesn't try to play him and Blair together. If Pete does somehow decide to play them both together...they will be laying some lumber for sure every week. I really see potential for this to become a really dominant defense by the end of the season, right when they will need to be that the most.


    On Offense, I have said it on another thread and will say it again..Hollister I think sometimes forgets he's a TE and thinks he's a feature back. he is, like Carson, looking to initiate contact and rough up the defense. He was launching himself at the defense like a battering ram whenever possible. Defenses are going to hate tackling him as much as Carson. Already it seems like he has Wilson's trust and is a go to guy for him this early on. Having multiple pieces on offense with that physicality rather than just one is going to be good for knocking defenses back in the chops later in the year. This is before even bringing up that there are 3 big and physical wr's out there catching balls as well. Defenses are going to be so worn out that Locket is going to have an easier time getting open as the season goes on(provided he doesn't have a serious injury).

    Props to Pete for sticking with Myers, even last week when we were all mad as hell about the misses. It paid off dividends this week and though I am not going to be all in yet, maybe we have the pro bowl kicker back that he was last year.



    McDougall laid some lumber last night too . I like the combo
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:14 am
  • Love reading your thoughts Fade. Always look forward to them.

    We have a true embarrassment of riches at TE. I have no idea what we will do when they are all healthy.

    With Lockett potentially out for a while, it sure would be nice if we had Dissly or Dickson. Can you imagine the 2 TE possibilities with Dissly and Hollister?

    It was really nice to see the Hawks back to a smash you in the mouth style. The soft defense they put on the field for the first half of the season had me :pukeface:
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:15 am
  • JPatera76 wrote:I agreed with everything the OP said except the Sherm bit
    “ Sherman still plays the run well. Shed DK's block and put a good textbook shot on Lockett.”
    He held DK lost that battle and went helmet to helmet on Lockett.. it was a chump move, and easily should have been called.

    The Refs kept giving Sherman & Company all the bias slack they needed to CLEANLY, & CLEARLY win this game, GQ JIMMY just isn't wired for bright light performances like RW is.
    The Defense has a boat load of talent, and finally made the necessary adjustments to take advantage of it.
    This was a WHOLE TEAM EFFORT WIN. :irishdrinkers: :irishdrinkers: :irishdrinkers: :irishdrinkers: :irishdrinkers:
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:34 am
  • Crazy game. They looked like they were going to murder us in the 1st qtr.

    Hope Lockett is okay, he is so key to this team.

    Getting Gordon was timely, hope he contributes more.

    Jacob Hollister is a baller. Now that we seem to know how to utilize TE's, it's good to have gotten multiple quality players at the position.

    I wrote at the start of the season that if we could make it to 5-3 at the half we would be well-positioned to make a run with Jarren Reed back and the line coming together. It's even better than I could have hoped for. Now we just need the DB's to come together.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:51 am
  • It was strange seeing the defense carry this team to a win against a top team in the league this year when its been the offense dragging the defense to victories so far. They were on fire all night outside a few mishaps mostly in the direction of Taylor. It's amazing what a difference a good pass rush and solid safety play does for a Pete Carroll defense. Addition of Diggs, an above average safety, is huge.

    Gordon will get rolling with this offense I bet, his big third down catches were effortless. His hands just sort of absorb the ball even with all sorts of contact. I actually like him getting those 1 on 1 jump balls DK has been getting along the sideline going forward, DK needs to work on those this offseason. For all his size he does an awful job getting position and often times it bounces off his hands.

    Offense was mostly bottled up but 49ers D is for real. I am actually really impressed with the offensive line, they gave Russell a bunch of easy running lanes and nice pockets even if they were a bit overmatched. Tough for Carson to get going when they were consistently sending pressure with press coverage on the outside, their defensive gameplan was very similar to how the Ravens played us.

    Penny is wildly disappointing especially knowing Chubb was available. He may be a #1 for a different team but he just cannot run the style Pete wants. I understand why they took a RB with Carson's injury, hindsight is just a b!@ch.

    Nothing more to add about Clowney, dude was the best player on the field all night. I hope this fire continues for the rest of the year.

    Hope Lockett is ok, sounds like he spend the night at a hospital there for swelling. Russ needs him as a safety blanket over the middle.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 12:13 pm
  • niveky wrote:
    Shanegotyou11 wrote:Boy oh boy what a game.

    Hawks defense was amazing. Clowney was amazing. That play by Shaq in OT was beautiful. The offense was eh and that pick by russ in ot was horrible.

    The defense definitely picked up the offense this game which is great as offense has been the reason for this 7 and 2 start. So to get 8th win and see this defense step is awesome.

    Our running backs have slippery hands. That has to be fixed. Myers stepped up huge.



    To be fair, the 49'ers defense is legit. Luckily the Seahawks defense matched intensity last night



    They are legit i agree. Fumbles killed us.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 1:52 pm
  • Considering how the national media was writing the Hawks off and the Digits were favoured by 6.5 there is a considerable amount of negativity here. The team is now 5-0 on the road and yesterday the team won it's 3rd straight divisional game, with only 1 conference L :2thumbs: .

    The D played very well yesterday and yes they made a few blunders but they had a pass rush which upset Garoppolo. He sure didn't look that good under pressure. Yesterday we saw how things might look in the later part of the season as Reed rounds into playing shape and works in combination with Clowney and Jefferson, Poona and Al Wood also had big games. I was impressed with the play of Griffin, Diggs and McDougald and not much overwhelmed with the play of either Flowers or Taylor. Flowers is struggling a bit this season, is nursing a leg injury, but was unfairly called on a PI that was so tacky tack it goes down as one of the worst calls of the season. The team simply needs to find a better NCB than Taylor.

    The game was an impressive effort and the defensive changes dialled up by Pete shows the Ol' Dawg still has a few tricks. The team needs to find a way to keep Clowney, he is a wrecking ball, the team has cap space to make it possible as well. This game preceded the bye which has come at a great time and will allow the team to heal up and get stoked for the last 6 games of the regular season.

    The numerous fumbles and turnovers by the O sure allowed SF to stay in the game as the Hawks might have hung a whoppin' on the Digits otherwise, coulda, woulda, etc.. Our team threw away almost every opportunity to sieze a definite advantage with turnovers. In the end Wilson was special, not always perfect, but still you had faith he'd create a W at the end. He did of course.

    It'd be nice to see a 40-0 Hawks win after the bye just to show the team doesn't have to always be 'The Cardiac Kids' but this W was especially sweet as few gave them much of shot to win.

    I'm jazzed by this W.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 3:30 pm
  • Fade wrote:
    Hockey Guy wrote:I kinda called it last game rumination thread.

    Carroll was playing possum & unveiled a totally different defensive scheme.


    You did, nice call. I thought there was a small chance, but not likely. I am glad they did.

    Clowney to Leo, with Jefferson at 5-tech changes everything as well. A nickleback change has to be coming. That position has to get better by default, because it can't get any worse.

    PS It's late and I am going to bed. I look forward to reading everyone's comments tomorrow. :D


    Gotta admit it was more wishful thinking than anything.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 4:54 pm
  • This game came down to a kickers contest and Myers was stone cold on the game winning kick . That guy has been under fire ;but he did his job :!:
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 6:55 pm
  • The D we saw yesterday vs what we saw just a week ago is like two different teams. If they can keep playing like that, the sky is the limit for this team. Go Hawks!
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:39 pm
  • I think the D picked up due to a combo of a few things: moving Clowney to Leo, Reed shaking the rust off, and Diggs finally seeing the field post-injury. Honestly, everyone played pretty well except 24. I'd love to see who/what else we have at nickel. He's been disappointing.

    Right now it sounds as if Lockett will be OK. Adding Gordon into the mix should only help the O (at least in theory).

    Clean up the fumbles and this team is shaping up to make a great run into the playoffs.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 7:51 pm
  • Pretty much spot on Fade. And just to add for laughs...

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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:33 pm
  • raisethe3 wrote:Pretty much spot on Fade. And just to add for laughs...

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    Ha ha that’s awesome!

    Jed York doesn’t own the Niners, Russell Wilson does!
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 8:54 pm
  • xray wrote:This game came down to a kickers contest and Myers was stone cold on the game winning kick . That guy has been under fire ;but he did his job :!:


    He made the kick by less than 2 inches...but he made it. This should be a huge confidence builder for him.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:10 pm
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 10:31 pm
  • So the question is, how eager are they to come to Seattle now?
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Tue Nov 12, 2019 11:04 pm
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:08 am
  • mistaowen wrote:Penny is wildly disappointing especially knowing Chubb was available. He may be a #1 for a different team but he just cannot run the style Pete wants. I understand why they took a RB with Carson's injury, hindsight is just a b!@ch.


    For sure, Chubb is a better back, like a faster Carson, in hindsight, and Ronald Jones II did a decent job against us for Tampa, got way more touches than Penny and looked solid.

    I'm doing my best to hang in there with Penny, but it's just hard to tell if he has the heart, the makeup, to run inside the way Pete wants him to, and hang onto the ball in the process.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:42 am
  • Sherman still plays the run well. Shed DK's block and put a good textbook shot on Lockett.


    Is that what you saw? Because from my viewpoint, it looked like he got trucked by No E.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:08 am
  • Maybe this was already brought up ; but SF could of taken a knee 3 times on their last possession and forced a tie ; which would of maintained their 2 game lead .
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 6:54 am
  • chris98251 wrote:So the question is, how eager are they to come to Seattle now?


    The question is... Will they be able to play the remainder of their schedule this hard? They had an early bye week and are hitting the toughest part of their schedule.

    Home vs AZ
    Home vs GB
    At Baltimore
    At New Orleans
    Home vs Atlanta and The Lambs
    THEN they have to come to Seattle?

    They're not looking forward to that schedule one bit ESPECIALLY coming to Seattle with the NFC West title on the line. They have the real potential of losing 3-4 games in that stretch.. maybe more. Not to mention, they're starting the rest of the schedule SUPER banged up.

    https://www.espn.com/nfl/team/injuries/_/name/sf
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:37 am
  • xray wrote:Maybe this was already brought up ; but SF could of taken a knee 3 times on their last possession and forced a tie ; which would of maintained their 2 game lead .


    People keep saying 2 game lead...it was a 1.5 game lead and now it is a .5 game lead. Losses aren't the only number in the equation.

    The point stands that taking a tie would have been better mathematically, but what message does that send to your undefeated team?
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 9:41 am
  • xray wrote:Maybe this was already brought up ; but SF could of taken a knee 3 times on their last possession and forced a tie ; which would of maintained their 2 game lead .


    They were trying to win the game. You have to respect that.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 10:14 am
  • SF came within one Shaquill Griffin great defensive play of (probably) winning the game. IF their kicker had settled down by then. Respect to them for playing to win.

    Now, with fantasies of eclipsing the '72 Dolphins undefeated season dashed, the Niners can get back to just playing football. The do have an interesting stretch of games coming up.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 12:12 pm
  • This might be a very unpopular opinion, but I am fine with Taylor going forward. Nickel CB is one of the easiest positions to have a bad game at, and I am very snake-bitten with the prospect of "the grass is greener" at that position. I love Blair, but he would not be the answer at that position. SS yes, FS maybe, but definitely does not have the fluidity for Nickel.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 2:21 pm
  • The truth is that both teams made enough mistakes to lose the game.

    Only one team was able to overcome their own mistakes and take better advantage ot the other guy's.

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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 3:15 pm
  • xray wrote:Maybe this was already brought up ; but SF could of taken a knee 3 times on their last possession and forced a tie ; which would of maintained their 2 game lead .


    With 1:40 to go in the game, only a wuss takes a knee.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 5:02 pm
  • olyfan63 wrote:
    mistaowen wrote:Penny is wildly disappointing especially knowing Chubb was available. He may be a #1 for a different team but he just cannot run the style Pete wants. I understand why they took a RB with Carson's injury, hindsight is just a b!@ch.


    For sure, Chubb is a better back, like a faster Carson, in hindsight, and Ronald Jones II did a decent job against us for Tampa, got way more touches than Penny and looked solid.

    I'm doing my best to hang in there with Penny, but it's just hard to tell if he has the heart, the makeup, to run inside the way Pete wants him to, and hang onto the ball in the process.



    Pretty sure Chubb was down on a lot of draft boards for medical reasons. Everyone knew he was very talented but he needed a complete knee reconstruction and that’s really hard to predict recovery from. I’ve no problem with the FO taking a pass.

    But I’ve lost total faith in Penny. By now he should be splitting reps with Carson. Carson is great but he’s not so great you don’t spell him on occasion to save him for the playoffs. It’s year 2 for Penny and he needs to compete and take reps from Carson. It doesn’t look like a talent issue. Looks mental.

    Schneider has been an awesome GM but his swings for the fences in round 1 have been terribly problematic. Need to really evaluate the first round grades they put on players.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 7:14 pm
  • Tusc2000 wrote:
    xray wrote:Maybe this was already brought up ; but SF could of taken a knee 3 times on their last possession and forced a tie ; which would of maintained their 2 game lead .


    With 1:40 to go in the game, only a wuss takes a knee.

    True but I wouldn’t have given RW the ball back. I’d still try and win the game and I’d melt the clock at the same time where if we can’t score any points it’s a tie. It doesn’t have to be an either or situation. The “genius” that is KS screwed the pooch with their last possession, for which I thank him for. :)
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Wed Nov 13, 2019 11:49 pm
  • I was thinking SF might do a couple run plays in the mix, just to avoid leaving too much time for Russell if they have to punt. Bet they would have gotten 10 yards a crack against the type of D the Hawks were playing. For sure KS now understands the folly of giving the ball back to Wilson with any time left on the clock.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Thu Nov 14, 2019 12:01 am
  • Mad Dog wrote:
    olyfan63 wrote:
    mistaowen wrote:Penny is wildly disappointing especially knowing Chubb was available. He may be a #1 for a different team but he just cannot run the style Pete wants. I understand why they took a RB with Carson's injury, hindsight is just a b!@ch.


    For sure, Chubb is a better back, like a faster Carson, in hindsight, and Ronald Jones II did a decent job against us for Tampa, got way more touches than Penny and looked solid.

    I'm doing my best to hang in there with Penny, but it's just hard to tell if he has the heart, the makeup, to run inside the way Pete wants him to, and hang onto the ball in the process.



    Pretty sure Chubb was down on a lot of draft boards for medical reasons. Everyone knew he was very talented but he needed a complete knee reconstruction and that’s really hard to predict recovery from. I’ve no problem with the FO taking a pass.

    But I’ve lost total faith in Penny. By now he should be splitting reps with Carson. Carson is great but he’s not so great you don’t spell him on occasion to save him for the playoffs. It’s year 2 for Penny and he needs to compete and take reps from Carson. It doesn’t look like a talent issue. Looks mental.

    Schneider has been an awesome GM but his swings for the fences in round 1 have been terribly problematic. Need to really evaluate the first round grades they put on players.


    Also in the mix was Sony Michel, IIRC, Hawks could have taken him. He had a nice year last year, but this year is #3 in the RB rotation for the Patriots, behind better pass-receiving backs. IIRC he had injury issues to work through when drafted, knee also I believe.

    Ronald Jones II is a little lighter in the pockets than Penny.

    I do wonder why Pete and Schotty have used CJ Prosise so little. He can run inside. And great in the passing game.
    Last I knew, he wasn't injured, but I could be behind the times. Hell, maybe convert Prosise to a pass-catching TE.

    Things being what they are, at least Penny will be fresh if we ever need him. Will he be ready? He does show brief flashes, like last week when I had to look twice to see it was Penny, not Carson, after a nice between the tackles run. So I guess there's not much else to do except hang in there, and hope the light bulb goes on. I would like to see Penny take over kickoff return duty; he was amazing at that in college. Don't need to see No-E returning kicks; he's too valuable at WR.
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Re: Ruminations on the 49ers Game.
Thu Nov 14, 2019 5:44 am
  • olyfan63 wrote:I was thinking SF might do a couple run plays in the mix, just to avoid leaving too much time for Russell if they have to punt. Bet they would have gotten 10 yards a crack against the type of D the Hawks were playing. For sure KS now understands the folly of giving the ball back to Wilson with any time left on the clock.

    Why would Sahnanhan do that when he wouldn't even do so in the Super Bowl with a 28-3 lead and likely the GOAT playing QB for the other team?
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