DomeHawk wrote:Was watching a program where they noted that the type of rubberized gloves receivers wear now is a significant contributor of the one-handed catch these days that receivers in the past didn't have.
DJrmb wrote:DomeHawk wrote:Was watching a program where they noted that the type of rubberized gloves receivers wear now is a significant contributor of the one-handed catch these days that receivers in the past didn't have.
Did they say whether or not the tackiness or grip potential was more or less than that of Stick'um (which Jerry Rice admitted to using)? I know the gloves now days are really good, but I don't know if they're better than adhesives that have been snuck into games for years?
Attyla the Hawk wrote:Nice catch.
I noted earlier, that DK has very strong, soft hands and tracks the ball well on throws away from his body. He doesn't double catch with any regularity on these kinds of throws.
These kinds of catches, we should see him really excel at. Over the shoulder or otherwise throws that he can go get it. He exhibits an exceptional catch radius and really attacks these balls strong and confidently.
What will bear watching is throws to his frame. He doesn't track these balls well. He didn't exhibit the same confidence in these cases. Hitches/curls and otherwise perfectly placed slants he has shown to have real, consistent trouble with.
No player is as good in college as they will be even after their first OTA/TC. If Metcalf can polish this aspect of his game, he stands to really be one of -- most likely -- the best players in this draft at any position. It may take more than this offseason. It may never happen. But clearly there are elements to his game short term that he can be wildly successful at right now.
This is one of them. I think Metcalf is going to be the first skill position teammate where Russell is going to have to adjust his own game significantly in order to maximize team potential.
ivotuk wrote:http://www.nfl.com/videos/seattle-seahawks/0ap3000001031295/Rookie-Premiere-D-K-Metcalf-makes-one-handed-catch-look-easy
Lithium wrote:Meh, I can do that.
ivotuk wrote:That bolded part is spot on. I used to read articles by "The Football Scientist," KC Joyner, and he always extrapolated between college production, and what a player might produce in the Pros. Most of his predictions were fairly accurate, and all predictions were for higher production in the Pros, and his reasoning behind it.
Attyla the Hawk wrote:
Without doing exhaustive work (and access to better statistical records), it appeared that drop rates were more a function of the QB throwing the ball, than the WR catching it.
SoulfishHawk wrote:So he couldn't make that catch w/out the gloves? And you know this how?
Jerry Rice was the best of all time, wore gloves every game. I guess he was only good because of those gloves
sutz wrote:From what I've been reading, Metcalf's only 'route tree problem' is that he didn't run enough different routes in games to develop a good feel of how good he is on the shorter/intermediate routes. That tends to happen in college, where coaches find something that works and keep going back to it.
I've read some comments that DK is doing fine so far running different routes in the rookie camp and the first couple of OTAs. We'll know better when they put pads on, of course, but I'm not ready to write him off as a one trick pony just yet.
toffee wrote:sutz wrote:From what I've been reading, Metcalf's only 'route tree problem' is that he didn't run enough different routes in games to develop a good feel of how good he is on the shorter/intermediate routes. That tends to happen in college, where coaches find something that works and keep going back to it.
I've read some comments that DK is doing fine so far running different routes in the rookie camp and the first couple of OTAs. We'll know better when they put pads on, of course, but I'm not ready to write him off as a one trick pony just yet.
I suspect training with coach Sullivan helped too.
Pete is trying him out even as a punt or was it kick return ... so guessing Pete will give him all kinds of opportunities. DK is after all that tall big fast WR that Pete has been looking for since he joined the Hawks.
DomeHawk wrote:Was watching a program where they noted that the type of rubberized gloves receivers wear now is a significant contributor of the one-handed catch these days that receivers in the past didn't have.
kthebestwayw wrote:This guy has the potential to take this offense to the next level in the passing game that we, quite frankly, haven't seen. We've been gushing over getting a true #1 WR for God knows how long. He get be a top tier talent if he can stay healthy. RW can throw any kid of ball we know this. Looking forward to seeing what this guy can really do
sutz wrote:From what I've been reading, Metcalf's only 'route tree problem' is that he didn't run enough different routes in games to develop a good feel of how good he is on the shorter/intermediate routes. That tends to happen in college, where coaches find something that works and keep going back to it.
I've read some comments that DK is doing fine so far running different routes in the rookie camp and the first couple of OTAs. We'll know better when they put pads on, of course, but I'm not ready to write him off as a one trick pony just yet.
DomeHawk wrote:sutz wrote:From what I've been reading, Metcalf's only 'route tree problem' is that he didn't run enough different routes in games to develop a good feel of how good he is on the shorter/intermediate routes. That tends to happen in college, where coaches find something that works and keep going back to it.
I've read some comments that DK is doing fine so far running different routes in the rookie camp and the first couple of OTAs. We'll know better when they put pads on, of course, but I'm not ready to write him off as a one trick pony just yet.
He may end up the best WR ever for all I know but there was a reason all 32 teams passed on him the entire first AND second round. To suggest that the scouts didn't know what they were talking about is just silly, yes, they miss it sometimes but every one they miss they are spot on with scores of players.
Saying that he may have shortcomings that have been well noted is a long way from writing him off, I am totally rooting for him, gawd knows we need top receivers.
DomeHawk wrote:sutz wrote:From what I've been reading, Metcalf's only 'route tree problem' is that he didn't run enough different routes in games to develop a good feel of how good he is on the shorter/intermediate routes. That tends to happen in college, where coaches find something that works and keep going back to it.
I've read some comments that DK is doing fine so far running different routes in the rookie camp and the first couple of OTAs. We'll know better when they put pads on, of course, but I'm not ready to write him off as a one trick pony just yet.
He may end up the best WR ever for all I know but there was a reason all 32 teams passed on him the entire first AND second round. To suggest that the scouts didn't know what they were talking about is just silly, yes, they miss it sometimes but every one they miss they are spot on with scores of players.
Saying that he may have shortcomings that have been well noted is a long way from writing him off, I am totally rooting for him, gawd knows we need top receivers.
toffee wrote:Him too, but to fair, most low rounders or undrafters don't make it in the league.
SoulfishHawk wrote:Look at all those guys the Hawks got "lucky" on picking in later rounds. If other teams make those picks, they are great at talent evaluation. But many will claim that it's pure Luck that the Hawks picked those guys.
SoulfishHawk wrote:They have a knack for finding guys who fit their system. They also have a knack for getting the most out of their players. Better than most teams imo.
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