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Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season

Poll ended at Thu May 23, 2019 10:49 am

Inability to sustain drives.
15
15%
Edge rush
19
19%
Cornerback play
12
12%
Safety play
5
5%
Offensive play calling
11
11%
Inability to adapt in game time
33
33%
Game plan
5
5%
 
Total votes : 100

Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 10:49 am
  • Coming into the draft I, like many here, thought our biggest needs were DE and WR. It seemed pretty obvious but it got me to thinking about what our biggest issue is going into this season. Don’t get me wrong, I am not so naïve as to think it isn't a multi-faceted question but if you had to pick just one (or two) areas what would it be? Feel free to include your own as I am sure I am forgetting something.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 11:16 am
  • The LOB was a boon for our D-line in getting coverage-sacks and pressures. I know they feed off of each other, but it is my hope that the D-backs give the line time to harass opposing QBs. Last year, that was not the case. So while I checked CBs, I really mean DBs covering man or zone as a whole (thus not "safety" exactly).
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 11:28 am
  • I think they know offensive play calling needs to be less predictable and have to open Russ up more than they did. I hope DK can become a stretch the field 2-3 times a game player.

    I'm gonna go with pass defense. Tre looked good but still raw, Shaq took a big step backwards. McDougald is solid but other safety is a question mark right now. For Pete's style they gave up far too many big plays with a defensive scheme meant to limit those and often came off of blown coverage.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 11:33 am
  • Aggregate? Greenness of our D.
    Specific instance? The brittleness of our offense.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 11:57 am
  • Since I have no faith that Ansah will stay healthy, I'm still concerned about the pass rush.
    In today's league getting guys in the QB's face is all you can do to defend these offenses since DB's are just damage mitigators rather than playmakers with all these rules. It'll be worse with the DPI review process. All those subtle arm bars are going to get called.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 12:07 pm
  • I think the inability to adapt may just have been overtaken by "inexperience".
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 12:28 pm
  • Before the draft I thought the biggest issue was D-line, and I still think it's D-line.

    Not because I'm not excited about Collier and Ansah, but because Ansah is still a question mark to start the season, which means without him producing like we hope there's still HUGE question marks on the pass rush. Do we trust guys like Jefferson, Martin, Green and Marsh? I don't yet.

    On paper our D-line depth looks better than last year, but playmaking/sack ability is TBD.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 12:29 pm
  • Safety play. We have 2 good CBs, but that deep safety needs to make life easier for them, and thus, for the DLine.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 2:23 pm
  • I will go with attitude and demeanor, we need to get back to punish them type playing, yeah it's a edge to walk on the penalty side but it's a mentality as well. Lynch had it on our offense as did Doug, and the LOB on defense.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 3:08 pm
  • Make in game adjustments expediently. Don't mess around with "ideas" like the first 2 games last year where this new supposed "running team" tried to pass and couldn't.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 3:19 pm
  • 4 of these are the same problem.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 4:01 pm
  • People are gonna gripe about Schotty.

    The offensive coordinator could win a Super Bowl and people would still gripe about him. Ask me how I know.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 4:12 pm
  • sdog1981 wrote:4 of these are the same problem.



    That's about the way I see; I voted "gameplan" since that seemed the broadest description of the issue.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 4:21 pm
  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:People are gonna gripe about Schotty.

    The offensive coordinator could win a Super Bowl and people would still gripe about him. Ask me how I know.


    Victory has a thousand dads. Defeat is the offensive coordinator’s bastard stepchild.


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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 4:41 pm
  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:People are gonna gripe about Schotty.

    The offensive coordinator could win a Super Bowl and people would still gripe about him. Ask me how I know.


    :lol: Fair.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 6:50 pm
  • Who's gonna kick our field goals, PATs, and kickoffs? Have they even brought anyone in yet?
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 7:43 pm
  • Are people actually arguing that nonsense about Bevell not being a serious handicap? Our offense was drastically better last season without him. It was actually fun to watch. We even scored on a few opening drives which never happened with the devil.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 8:24 pm
  • GeekHawk wrote:Who's gonna kick our field goals, PATs, and kickoffs? Have they even brought anyone in yet?



    Does signing Pro Bowl Kicker Jason Myers count? ;)
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 9:10 pm
  • I guess I missed something in all the draft excitement!
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Mon May 13, 2019 10:31 pm
  • I worry about the pass rush and corner play. Ansah's health is of course a concern and there are many question marks with our other DEs.

    Regarding our corners, is Amadi going to be our slot/nickel guy? Is he ready to step up?

    Will Griffin continue to regress? With the exception of about 2 nice games, Shaq played very poorly last year and it cost us. I was surprised CB wasn't addressed in the draft this year. Flowers looks promising though.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 5:40 am
  • Special Teams wasn't a choice, but that's what I'm most worried about.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 10:12 am
  • I'm gonna say getting off the field on third down (for the defense, not the offense, I'm sure the offense will do just fine at it :) ). That's gonna be a combo of edge and CB play (and throw in safety play).
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 12:31 pm
  • Seahawk wrote:Special Teams wasn't a choice, but that's what I'm most worried about.


    Good point, I missed that one.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 12:38 pm
  • For me it's cornerback play. The reason why coaching isn't, is cause vast majority of coaches in NFL are honestly quite dumb looking from outside in, so I don't think there's a big gap that needs to be addressed.

    But Shaq Griffin being garbage last year sure does. With Coleman gone hopefully Tre Flowers can actually improve going into season 2 unlike Shaq and carry the load.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 1:16 pm
  • How in-the-hell do I know? Or anyone for that matter....we haven't even seen a single day at Camp. A valid time to ask this question is after the second or third Pre-season game.
    How well I remember in 2012 when we drafted a young, short QB by the name of Russell Wilson. Most here were saying in May that we were "toast"!! That isn't what they were saying after the 3rd Pre-season game.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 1:25 pm
  • Bigpumpkin wrote:How in-the-hell do I know? Or anyone for that matter....we haven't even seen a single day at Camp. A valid time to ask this question is after the second or third Pre-season game.
    How well I remember in 2012 when we drafted a young, short QB by the name of Russell Wilson. Most here were saying in May that we were "toast"!! That isn't what they were saying after the 3rd Pre-season game.


    Well, thanks for playing, and let me congratulate you on your remarkable ability for stating the obvious. This has been a really good thread, for me at least, with many really good responses.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 1:28 pm
  • DomeHawk wrote:
    Bigpumpkin wrote:How in-the-hell do I know? Or anyone for that matter....we haven't even seen a single day at Camp. A valid time to ask this question is after the second or third Pre-season game.
    How well I remember in 2012 when we drafted a young, short QB by the name of Russell Wilson. Most here were saying in May that we were "toast"!! That isn't what they were saying after the 3rd Pre-season game.


    Well, thanks for playing, and let me congratulate you on your remarkable ability for stating the obvious. This has been a really good thread, for me at least, with many really good responses.



    Sorry.....I didn't realize that this was a game playing thread. I'll bow out.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 1:40 pm
  • sdog1981 wrote:4 of these are the same problem.


    Granted there are some correlations for sure, but the questions are based on kind of an intuitive feeling you might have about specific issues.

    You could say that "inability to sustain drives" and "offensive play calling" are the same thing but they are not, one has to deal directly with coaching and the other might include that but also have much to do with execution. And yes, somewhat broad but like I said, it's about how you "feel," not necessarily anything scientific per se.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 1:44 pm
  • CB play imo unless Shaq proves his worth this year and not much depth behind him.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 2:42 pm
  • Run/run/pass.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 2:49 pm
  • BirdsCommaAngry wrote:Run/run/pass.


    I get what you are saying and that is why I included "Inability to sustain drives." It seemed like there was just too many instances of having to make a first down on third down. You don't convert and the drive is over. How about trying to convert a first down on first or second down once in a while?
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 3:02 pm
  • DomeHawk wrote:
    BirdsCommaAngry wrote:Run/run/pass.


    I get what you are saying and that is why I included "Inability to sustain drives." It seemed like there was just too many instances of having to make a first down on third down. You don't convert and the drive is over. How about trying to convert a first down on first or second down once in a while?


    FWIW, the only time under PC the Hawks thrived above average on 3rd down conversion rates was 2014 and 2015. It's something that I indeed ding Bevell for and something that seems static from Bevell now with Schotty.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Tue May 14, 2019 5:48 pm
  • Seahawk wrote:Special Teams wasn't a choice, but that's what I'm most worried about.


    Special teams is as good as your depth, we had starters playing there for Petes first few years, then they started getting miles on them and we drifted away from it unless it was special situations, we may head back that way now and hope that our overall depth is better as well. Notice a lot of Safety types and LB's drafted also, those are special team guys.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Wed May 15, 2019 6:03 am
  • Biggest issue is figuring out everyone’s correct ring size.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Wed May 15, 2019 7:06 am
  • Seahawk wrote:Special Teams wasn't a choice, but that's what I'm most worried about.


    I think the Hawks have dramatically improved in this category. We have a competent kicker now, and a host of ST draftees that excelled in college.

    I'm looking for massive improvement.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Wed May 15, 2019 2:35 pm
  • Biggest for me are injuries & officiating. Other than that i would say Griffin really annoyed the hell out of me. Not sure what's the deal with him, his rookie year he had a lot of promise. Maybe switching was a wrong idea. I hope he bounces back.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Thu May 16, 2019 6:10 am
  • An area of concern I think people are over looking is WR. Yes we have depth but it normally takes WR,s a couple years to get adjusted to the nfl. We have a lot of youth at the position and it could take a couple years before they reach their full potential in our offense!, we have No e, Brown and Moore the later is still trying to get his feet underneath him. You may not agree but it their development is an area of concern moving forward among others!
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Thu May 16, 2019 8:02 am
  • I voted inability to sustain drives.

    First, defensively. We have an adequate defense in all facets. Not dominant like before. Even more than the last couple of years, we need to rest our defense, so they can stay fresh and finish games. If we continue the pattern of running them ragged for 2.5 to 3 quarters before unleashing the offense, then we are in for a disastrous season.

    Offensively, well I guess that all of the offensive options listed effect our ability to sustain drives. From game planning, to adjustment, to execution. This is Russ's team now, and he needs to take/ be given ownership of the offense even more than before. He needs to be unleashed to read and react more and better. My biggest criticism of Russ has been how little he seems to react to what the defense does at the snap. This may be because he isn't given the options to react (offensive coordinator problem) or an inability to react. I believe it's the former, but there isn't any way to know for sure.

    What hurt us the most with Russ/CaBevell was lack of adjustment after the snap. Russ did a great job of changing the play when the defense showed its hand, prior to the snap, but when the defense brought disguised pressure, or checked out of a blitz, we had nothing. I think it was due to play design, not Russ's inability to read and react.

    So, having hot reads for disguised blitzes, and a route that can develop into something longer when the defense shows blitz, but checks out of it, would be a huge boon to this team.

    Sustained drives will lead to more offensive success, and will allow the defense to rest and be fresh. We need both if we are to make a deep push into the playoffs this year.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Thu May 16, 2019 8:18 am
  • For me, it’s Edge and Slot WR.

    I like the Ansah signing, but his shoulder injury concerns me. And, he simply replaces Clark’s productivity if he plays all 16 games and is 100% healthy. Marsh is a solid player, but I was hoping JS would do more to solidify the Edge.

    Who’s going to play slot? Best case scenario is for Jennings, Ursua, Reynolds, etc.. to emerge, but what if they don’t?

    We all know JS will not sit still if these players don’t step up during OTAs, so I expect us to trade a draft pick for a player or sign a street free agent. But, until then, these two areas are question marks, IMO.
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Sat May 18, 2019 9:53 am
  • So, I guess it's time to wrap this up. Really good thread with lots of good posts.

    1. "Inability to adapt game time," wins by a large margin and I think that is just partially due to the playoff game fiasco. Could we have won that game? No, we SHOULD have won that game.

    2. "Edge rush," was second and that is probably a response to losing Clark.

    3. "Inability to sustain drives," was third and that was my second after adapt. I think this is a huge issue and why I was so hoping we could draft a proven possession receiver like N'Keal Harry, something that wasn't lost on Belichick who made him the first WR taken in the first round of the Belichick era. You just have to convert first downs in this league.

    4. "Cornerback play," was fourth and that probably reflects Shaquill Griffin having a poor second season and the general lack of experience at the position. Hopefully, these players will step up this season.

    5. "Offensive play calling," I think this is a response to the feeling that we were a little too Bevell-esque last season. Are we predictable? Just ask the Dallas coaching staff who literally played us in the playoff game with them.

    6. - 7. "Safety play" and "game plan" didn't garner much interest, at least as highest priorities, but there are clearly some concerns there, especially at safety where we just lost the league's best FS.

    All in all, I was somewhat surprised that the consensus here pretty much followed my own thoughts/feelings. I guess it's pretty obvious though.

    Thoughts?
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Re: Biggest Issue Going Into Next Season
Sat May 18, 2019 11:45 pm
  • Most that stuff can be fixed with coaching, I still feel we need to impose our attitude and mentality in games both sides of the ball.

    Why I posted this but it was ignored, not surprised. But when you out hit and out physical teams they start to fade in the second half and the 4th Quarter, why teams used to hate playing us, they would go home and hurt for two weeks after.

    I will go with attitude and demeanor, we need to get back to punish them type playing, yeah it's a edge to walk on the penalty side but it's a mentality as well. Lynch had it on our offense as did Doug, and the LOB on defense.
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