Seahawks.NET AMAZON STOREFRONT

Skip and Shannon

The Essential Online Seattle Football Fan Forum Community. There simply is NO substitute. LANGUAGE RATING: PG-13
Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:06 am
  • https://youtu.be/wUWNNqtBr60

    I don’t know how to embed this ... thoughts

    Last edited by kidhawk on Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:43 pm, edited 1 time in total.
    Reason: Embedded youtube video
    World champs sb48

    Aros wrote:

    Wait, MizzouHawkGal is a DUDE??
    User avatar
    hawksincebirth
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 541
    Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:12 pm
    Location: Marysville


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:11 am
  • hawksincebirth wrote:https://youtu.be/wUWNNqtBr60

    I don’t know how to embed this ... thoughts


    I can't stand Skip Bayless, but I could literally watch Shannon Sharpe talk about anything. Could you imagine him talking about his favorite soup? 10 Minutes on Chowder not being a soup!
    mrt144
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 3057
    Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:21 pm


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 8:48 am
  • They give Russ a fair amount of credit. Seem to believe there's too much pressure on him.
    adeltaY
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 3281
    Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:22 pm
    Location: Portland, OR


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:41 pm

  • fixed
    User avatar
    Fade
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 1671
    Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:26 am
    Location: Truth Ray


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 12:42 pm
  • lol Skip Bayless is one of the best. Love watching him. Great entertainment.
    User avatar
    fenderbender123
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 4430
    Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:47 pm


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 1:46 pm
  • Fade wrote:
    fixed

    Thanks brudda
    World champs sb48

    Aros wrote:

    Wait, MizzouHawkGal is a DUDE??
    User avatar
    hawksincebirth
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 541
    Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:12 pm
    Location: Marysville


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:26 pm
  • I can’t believe anyone watches those shows. Skip Bayless’ opinion is worth no more than any single member of this board. He gets paid for people to listen to his garbage, fabricated opinions and somehow people give credence to them.
    User avatar
    endzorn
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 2646
    Joined: Sat Mar 17, 2007 6:14 pm


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:28 pm
  • 1:16...... omg still talking about "the play" in SB49, "They'll never be the same."

    How long is this going to go on? How long are people going to talk about it? It's amazing honestly that it still gets brought up this much, astonishing.

    I started watching that video to hear them talk about the game last night, and Shannon is going on about the play.

    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
    Long you live and high you fly, and smiles you’ll give and tears you’ll cry, and all you touch and all you see Is all your life will ever be
    User avatar
    twisted_steel2
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 6662
    Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:41 am
    Location: Ballard


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:41 pm
  • From a national perspective Pete Carroll might as well have that play tattooed on his forehead at this point. It will follow him, and Bevell (who can't get a job) for the rest of their lives.

    It is his legacy.
    User avatar
    Fade
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 1671
    Joined: Thu Mar 13, 2014 3:26 am
    Location: Truth Ray


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:46 pm
  • Yep,

    Carroll will be remembered for one of the stupidest plays in NFL history, certainly SB history. He will also be remembered more for his failure than the fact he put together one of the greatest teams in NFL history (or more likely, Scot did).

    But most of his legacy will be as the guy that made that giant screwup. People might remember him more for that than all he did at USC.
    TwistedHusky
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 3271
    Joined: Tue Jan 08, 2013 6:48 pm


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 2:55 pm
  • To make a point that veers into politics (and I'm sorry mods)

    It's like saying 9/11 shouldn't be referenced for our current political climate because it happened almost 20 years ago and yet so much of what has happened since then in terms of policy and framing of policy only ever got legs in the aftermath of 9/11. You can't ignore a huge inflection point for a society, a team, a business, because it happened relatively a long time ago when there decision upon decision upon decision from that inflection point forward are tied to that emotionally arresting event.

    And again mods, I am super sorry for using this as a reference. I just couldn't think of something equivalent that would be widely experienced and known to most other people.
    mrt144
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 3057
    Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:21 pm


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:15 pm
  • Fade wrote:From a national perspective Pete Carroll might as well have that play tattooed on his forehead at this point. It will follow him, and Bevell (who can't get a job) for the rest of their lives.

    It is his legacy.

    They fail to realize that loss will outshine our one win ..... shame
    World champs sb48

    Aros wrote:

    Wait, MizzouHawkGal is a DUDE??
    User avatar
    hawksincebirth
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 541
    Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:12 pm
    Location: Marysville


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:17 pm
  • twisted_steel2 wrote:1:16...... omg still talking about "the play" in SB49, "They'll never be the same."

    How long is this going to go on? How long are people going to talk about it? It's amazing honestly that it still gets brought up this much, astonishing.

    I started watching that video to hear them talk about the game last night, and Shannon is going on about the play.

    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

    The play that got us here currently, the play that dismantled one of the best teams in football.. are you living in a house made of licorice and lollipops?
    World champs sb48

    Aros wrote:

    Wait, MizzouHawkGal is a DUDE??
    User avatar
    hawksincebirth
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 541
    Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:12 pm
    Location: Marysville


Re: Skip and Shannon
Tue Sep 18, 2018 3:17 pm
  • mrt144 wrote:To make a point that veers into politics (and I'm sorry mods)

    It's like saying 9/11 shouldn't be referenced for our current political climate because it happened almost 20 years ago and yet so much of what has happened since then in terms of policy and framing of policy only ever got legs in the aftermath of 9/11. You can't ignore a huge inflection point for a society, a team, a business, because it happened relatively a long time ago when there decision upon decision upon decision from that inflection point forward are tied to that emotionally arresting event.

    And again mods, I am super sorry for using this as a reference. I just couldn't think of something equivalent that would be widely experienced and known to most other people.


    Very good analogy and awesome point
    World champs sb48

    Aros wrote:

    Wait, MizzouHawkGal is a DUDE??
    User avatar
    hawksincebirth
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 541
    Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:12 pm
    Location: Marysville


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:56 am
  • hawksincebirth wrote:
    twisted_steel2 wrote:1:16...... omg still talking about "the play" in SB49, "They'll never be the same."

    How long is this going to go on? How long are people going to talk about it? It's amazing honestly that it still gets brought up this much, astonishing.

    I started watching that video to hear them talk about the game last night, and Shannon is going on about the play.

    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

    The play that got us here currently, the play that dismantled one of the best teams in football.. are you living in a house made of licorice and lollipops?


    Maybe I do live in a house made of licorice and lollipops, is that a thing?

    I do know I don't live in the past, every time, every conversation, I talk about the Seahawks I don't need to bring up one play. For the national guys, I think it shows I level of ignorance, that they can't actually dig into something more relevant, or accurate. A conversation about a specific Monday night game, and he digs that up out of left field? Strange.

    The Seahawks have a bad game, well you know that one play....
    Wilson throws a pick, well you know that one play....
    Front office makes a trade, well you know that one play....

    I'm not saying that play wasn't important, wasn't devastating, but wow, when is it time to let it go? It doesn't need to get dragged out every time the conversation turns to the Seahawks. On a macro level of the history of the Seahawks, sure its relevant. Talking on such a micro level, about a play, a game, etc. It feels incredibly out of place, and intellectually lazy.
    Long you live and high you fly, and smiles you’ll give and tears you’ll cry, and all you touch and all you see Is all your life will ever be
    User avatar
    twisted_steel2
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 6662
    Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:41 am
    Location: Ballard


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:59 am
  • endzorn wrote:I can’t believe anyone watches those shows. Skip Bayless’ opinion is worth no more than any single member of this board. He gets paid for people to listen to his garbage, fabricated opinions and somehow people give credence to them.


    You don't watch Skip or literally any "analyst" on any of the networks if you're looking for serious football knowledge and insight. You watch it because it's fun and it makes you laugh.
    User avatar
    fenderbender123
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 4430
    Joined: Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:47 pm


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:27 am
  • twisted_steel2 wrote:I'm not saying that play wasn't important, wasn't devastating, but wow, when is it time to let it go?


    It'll probably be brought up or in the forefront of this team until all the people involved like Pete and Wilson are gone. Thats how much of a monumental failure it was.
    User avatar
    pittpnthrs
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 1009
    Joined: Fri May 19, 2017 10:19 am


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:52 am
  • pittpnthrs wrote:
    twisted_steel2 wrote:I'm not saying that play wasn't important, wasn't devastating, but wow, when is it time to let it go?


    It'll probably be brought up or in the forefront of this team until all the people involved like Pete and Wilson are gone. Thats how much of a monumental failure it was.


    I think it's important to have that whole thought, "I'm not saying that play wasn't important, wasn't devastating, but wow, when is it time to let it go? It doesn't need to get dragged out every time the conversation turns to the Seahawks."

    My point was, when is it time to let it go... where it's not brought up in every non-related conversation about something specific to the Seahawks? I hope that makes sense.

    Example, Two guys talking, "So I really like the way Chris Carson runs, he runs with authority, really plants his foot and gets north-south fast, explodes into the hole......" Guy he's having the conversation with blurts out, "Yea but that interception in SB 49!!!" Out of left field right? To me that's what Shannon did. :Dunno:
    Long you live and high you fly, and smiles you’ll give and tears you’ll cry, and all you touch and all you see Is all your life will ever be
    User avatar
    twisted_steel2
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 6662
    Joined: Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:41 am
    Location: Ballard


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 7:56 am
  • pittpnthrs wrote:
    twisted_steel2 wrote:I'm not saying that play wasn't important, wasn't devastating, but wow, when is it time to let it go?


    It'll probably be brought up or in the forefront of this team until all the people involved like Pete and Wilson are gone. Thats how much of a monumental failure it was.


    That's a nice way of saying "I'm still mad and I'm not going to let it go."

    At least attach your name to it instead of keeping it in the passive voice to try and lend it credibility.
    GO HAWKS!!!

    Visit my Seahawks blog at 17power.blogspot.com!
    User avatar
    MontanaHawk05
    * 17Power Blogger *
     
    Posts: 15889
    Joined: Fri May 01, 2009 8:46 am


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:11 am
  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:
    twisted_steel2 wrote:I'm not saying that play wasn't important, wasn't devastating, but wow, when is it time to let it go?


    It'll probably be brought up or in the forefront of this team until all the people involved like Pete and Wilson are gone. Thats how much of a monumental failure it was.


    That's a nice way of saying "I'm still mad and I'm not going to let it go."

    At least attach your name to it instead of keeping it in the passive voice to try and lend it credibility.


    It doesnt have anything to do with how I feel or dont feel. Its an honest answer to an honest question. 'The Play' will be brought up as long as there are people still attached to the team that reminds people of it. The question was asked because its been 4 years now and 'The Play' keeps being mentioned whenever the Seahawks are talked about regardless if its by the fans or from sports announcers. Why,,,,,because 'The Play' was the start and reason of the decline and Pete Carroll is still on the sidelines reminding everybody of it everytime he's talked about, shown, or spoken to. I know its hard for some to admit it or accept it, but it is what it is.
    User avatar
    pittpnthrs
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 1009
    Joined: Fri May 19, 2017 10:19 am


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:18 am
  • Honestly though,

    wouldn't the team be basically in the same position even if they had won that game?

    I mean how much of the team's current predicaments are based on whether or not Lynch scores or Wilson completes the pass?

    It sucked for fans and the players. But I struggle to see the direct connection between that play and now. Bennett, Sherman, Graham, Lynch, the Richardson's, Avril, Kam would still not be on this team regardless.
    User avatar
    Uncle Si
    * NET Hottie *
     
    Posts: 13530
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:34 am


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:20 am
  • Stephen A and Skip don't make me laugh. They are loud idiots.
    R.I.P. THE EDGAR, YOU WILL BE MISSED......
    User avatar
    SoulfishHawk
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 9995
    Joined: Thu Sep 06, 2012 9:59 am
    Location: Sammamish, WA


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 10:26 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:Honestly though,

    wouldn't the team be basically in the same position even if they had won that game?

    I mean how much of the team's current predicaments are based on whether or not Lynch scores or Wilson completes the pass?

    It sucked for fans and the players. But I struggle to see the direct connection between that play and now. Bennett, Sherman, Graham, Lynch, the Richardson's, Avril, Kam would still not be on this team regardless.


    Depends on how much you think morale factors in to output. I tend to undervalue morale which i'll totally cop to, and I'd agree that maybe it doesn't make a difference long term in who is here and who isn't. But maybe a bit more solid morale is worth 1 or 2 wins per season for the team which seems small but could have a ton of unknown knock on effects.
    mrt144
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 3057
    Joined: Thu Dec 30, 2010 1:21 pm


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 11:36 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:Honestly though,

    wouldn't the team be basically in the same position even if they had won that game?

    I mean how much of the team's current predicaments are based on whether or not Lynch scores or Wilson completes the pass?

    It sucked for fans and the players. But I struggle to see the direct connection between that play and now. Bennett, Sherman, Graham, Lynch, the Richardson's, Avril, Kam would still not be on this team regardless.


    I dont believe so. I dont think Pete would have lost the locker room or the drama would have happened. I think a lot of the current teams issues are attributed to that play. So do a lot of other people apparently.
    User avatar
    pittpnthrs
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 1009
    Joined: Fri May 19, 2017 10:19 am


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 2:56 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Honestly though,

    wouldn't the team be basically in the same position even if they had won that game?

    I mean how much of the team's current predicaments are based on whether or not Lynch scores or Wilson completes the pass?

    It sucked for fans and the players. But I struggle to see the direct connection between that play and now. Bennett, Sherman, Graham, Lynch, the Richardson's, Avril, Kam would still not be on this team regardless.

    So chance at 3 peat doesn’t change anything? Sherman still here ? Maybe Bennett ? You see no ripple effects what so ever ?
    World champs sb48

    Aros wrote:

    Wait, MizzouHawkGal is a DUDE??
    User avatar
    hawksincebirth
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 541
    Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:12 pm
    Location: Marysville


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 6:47 pm
  • All those players were here the year after the loss and got hammered by the Panthers in the playoffs.

    Were they so dumbstruck by that loss that they pulled it together for a season only to REALLY let it bother them in the playoffs?

    Come on.. people are stronger than that. They snuck into that Super Bowl to begin with. they had a great run to end the regular season with historic QB play the year after and got bullied by a better Panthers team. That's where it started to unravel. A lot of people think that way, too.

    And let's say they 3-peat. Where are those players today, which is what i was asking? they're still hurt, old, gone. Why would an aging, injured Sherman with a bad wheel and 11 million be any more tantalizing to the team with a Super Bowl win then without it? Bennett the same. You think winning was going to suddenly resolve their attitudes?

    The Play tarnished a legacy. It's impact on the team now is probably a bit more complicated then "its the reason we suck"

    I can buy the morale thing, but still... none to a couple of the aforementioned players would be here for a variety (money, injury, age) reasons.

    The Play is just an easy, lazy target for a far more complicated cycle of events (overpaying vets, bad trades, bad drafts, poor coaching, defense heavy contracts, poor teammates). hell, if anything, its just part of a much larger cycle, rather than being THE issue.

    It's reductive (and honestly narrow minded) to find blame in one side of any of this. But it's not one play, regardless of that play's significance. This was always a teeter-totter over a cache of dynamite. When perfectly balanced it was a great thing. But it was always delicate... and fleeting.
    User avatar
    Uncle Si
    * NET Hottie *
     
    Posts: 13530
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:34 am


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:12 pm
  • If we got the three peat nothing would matter. We would be legends. Instead we are what we are.
    adeltaY
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 3281
    Joined: Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:22 pm
    Location: Portland, OR


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:14 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:All those players were here the year after the loss and got hammered by the Panthers in the playoffs.

    Were they so dumbstruck by that loss that they pulled it together for a season only to REALLY let it bother them in the playoffs?

    Come on.. people are stronger than that. They snuck into that Super Bowl to begin with. they had a great run to end the regular season with historic QB play the year after and got bullied by a better Panthers team. That's where it started to unravel. A lot of people think that way, too.

    And let's say they 3-peat. Where are those players today, which is what i was asking? they're still hurt, old, gone. Why would an aging, injured Sherman with a bad wheel and 11 million be any more tantalizing to the team with a Super Bowl win then without it? Bennett the same. You think winning was going to suddenly resolve their attitudes?

    The Play tarnished a legacy. It's impact on the team now is probably a bit more complicated then "its the reason we suck"

    I can buy the morale thing, but still... none to a couple of the aforementioned players would be here for a variety (money, injury, age) reasons.

    The Play is just an easy, lazy target for a far more complicated cycle of events (overpaying vets, bad trades, bad drafts, poor coaching, defense heavy contracts, poor teammates). hell, if anything, its just part of a much larger cycle, rather than being THE issue.

    It's reductive (and honestly narrow minded) to find blame in one side of any of this. But it's not one play, regardless of that play's significance. This was always a teeter-totter over a cache of dynamite. When perfectly balanced it was a great thing. But it was always delicate... and fleeting.


    [emoji1312]...completely nailed it.. great post


    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
    User avatar
    DJ_CJ
    NET Starter
     
    Posts: 348
    Joined: Sun Jan 09, 2011 4:48 pm
    Location: Cedar Rapids, IA


Re: Skip and Shannon
Wed Sep 19, 2018 9:28 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:All those players were here the year after the loss and got hammered by the Panthers in the playoffs.

    Were they so dumbstruck by that loss that they pulled it together for a season only to REALLY let it bother them in the playoffs?

    Come on.. people are stronger than that. They snuck into that Super Bowl to begin with. they had a great run to end the regular season with historic QB play the year after and got bullied by a better Panthers team. That's where it started to unravel. A lot of people think that way, too.

    And let's say they 3-peat. Where are those players today, which is what i was asking? they're still hurt, old, gone. Why would an aging, injured Sherman with a bad wheel and 11 million be any more tantalizing to the team with a Super Bowl win then without it? Bennett the same. You think winning was going to suddenly resolve their attitudes?

    The Play tarnished a legacy. It's impact on the team now is probably a bit more complicated then "its the reason we suck"

    I can buy the morale thing, but still... none to a couple of the aforementioned players would be here for a variety (money, injury, age) reasons.

    The Play is just an easy, lazy target for a far more complicated cycle of events (overpaying vets, bad trades, bad drafts, poor coaching, defense heavy contracts, poor teammates). hell, if anything, its just part of a much larger cycle, rather than being THE issue.

    It's reductive (and honestly narrow minded) to find blame in one side of any of this. But it's not one play, regardless of that play's significance. This was always a teeter-totter over a cache of dynamite. When perfectly balanced it was a great thing. But it was always delicate... and fleeting.


    Immortalized in sports history and arguably the best team ever ... that’s where
    World champs sb48

    Aros wrote:

    Wait, MizzouHawkGal is a DUDE??
    User avatar
    hawksincebirth
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 541
    Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:12 pm
    Location: Marysville


Re: Skip and Shannon
Thu Sep 20, 2018 4:30 am
  • Still nothing to do with the current state of the team. Which... was the point.
    User avatar
    Uncle Si
    * NET Hottie *
     
    Posts: 13530
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:34 am


Re: Skip and Shannon
Thu Sep 20, 2018 7:22 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:Still nothing to do with the current state of the team. Which... was the point.


    I see what your saying and where your going Si, but I think if that play never happened, we still have Sherman and Bennett and the defense would be better off. Just my opinion.
    User avatar
    pittpnthrs
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 1009
    Joined: Fri May 19, 2017 10:19 am


Re: Skip and Shannon
Thu Sep 20, 2018 8:39 am
  • pittpnthrs wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Still nothing to do with the current state of the team. Which... was the point.


    I see what your saying and where your going Si, but I think if that play never happened, we still have Sherman and Bennett and the defense would be better off. Just my opinion.


    Yeah, it's an unknown. And maybe with them the defense (and team) is better off.

    But... they were on the team the last two years and the wheels were wobbling (why the notion of a 3-peat is absurd in my opinion). They can assign that to "the play" but it they were getting blown out in the NFC championship game before it. were on a roll heading into the playoffs the year after.

    It seems to only rear its head when things dont go well. Which tells me the players focused on it were struggling with something else all together and form that, I cant see how success or failure was going to make much difference long term.
    User avatar
    Uncle Si
    * NET Hottie *
     
    Posts: 13530
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:34 am


Re: Skip and Shannon
Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:23 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Still nothing to do with the current state of the team. Which... was the point.


    I see what your saying and where your going Si, but I think if that play never happened, we still have Sherman and Bennett and the defense would be better off. Just my opinion.


    Yeah, it's an unknown. And maybe with them the defense (and team) is better off.

    But... they were on the team the last two years and the wheels were wobbling (why the notion of a 3-peat is absurd in my opinion). They can assign that to "the play" but it they were getting blown out in the NFC championship game before it. were on a roll heading into the playoffs the year after.

    It seems to only rear its head when things dont go well. Which tells me the players focused on it were struggling with something else all together and form that, I cant see how success or failure was going to make much difference long term.


    It’s kinda like a toxic relationship yea the sex may be great, but it’s not gonna Work.. Morale and that play cost pete the teams trust and lost his dynasty ultimately
    World champs sb48

    Aros wrote:

    Wait, MizzouHawkGal is a DUDE??
    User avatar
    hawksincebirth
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 541
    Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:12 pm
    Location: Marysville


Re: Skip and Shannon
Thu Sep 20, 2018 12:57 pm
  • hawksincebirth wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Still nothing to do with the current state of the team. Which... was the point.


    I see what your saying and where your going Si, but I think if that play never happened, we still have Sherman and Bennett and the defense would be better off. Just my opinion.


    Yeah, it's an unknown. And maybe with them the defense (and team) is better off.

    But... they were on the team the last two years and the wheels were wobbling (why the notion of a 3-peat is absurd in my opinion). They can assign that to "the play" but it they were getting blown out in the NFC championship game before it. were on a roll heading into the playoffs the year after.

    It seems to only rear its head when things dont go well. Which tells me the players focused on it were struggling with something else all together and form that, I cant see how success or failure was going to make much difference long term.


    It’s kinda like a toxic relationship yea the sex may be great, but it’s not gonna Work.. Morale and that play cost pete the teams trust and lost his dynasty ultimately


    I dont think "that play" was the issue why PC, Wilson and the defense's relationship turned toxic. It was probably always going to go that way. The play is an easy target. They were yelling at each other long before that. What would have happened if they dont recover the on-side kick? You think the defense wouldve been quiet about the INTs in the NFC championship loss?

    And while it cost them back to back Super Bowls, the play was in the rear view mirror until they got shit canned by the Panthers.

    It was a matter of time. Winning just kept things in balance.
    User avatar
    Uncle Si
    * NET Hottie *
     
    Posts: 13530
    Joined: Sat Mar 03, 2007 8:34 am


Re: Skip and Shannon
Thu Sep 20, 2018 11:12 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:
    hawksincebirth wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:
    pittpnthrs wrote:
    I see what your saying and where your going Si, but I think if that play never happened, we still have Sherman and Bennett and the defense would be better off. Just my opinion.


    Yeah, it's an unknown. And maybe with them the defense (and team) is better off.

    But... they were on the team the last two years and the wheels were wobbling (why the notion of a 3-peat is absurd in my opinion). They can assign that to "the play" but it they were getting blown out in the NFC championship game before it. were on a roll heading into the playoffs the year after.

    It seems to only rear its head when things dont go well. Which tells me the players focused on it were struggling with something else all together and form that, I cant see how success or failure was going to make much difference long term.


    It’s kinda like a toxic relationship yea the sex may be great, but it’s not gonna Work.. Morale and that play cost pete the teams trust and lost his dynasty ultimately


    I dont think "that play" was the issue why PC, Wilson and the defense's relationship turned toxic. It was probably always going to go that way. The play is an easy target. They were yelling at each other long before that. What would have happened if they dont recover the on-side kick? You think the defense wouldve been quiet about the INTs in the NFC championship loss?

    And while it cost them back to back Super Bowls, the play was in the rear view mirror until they got shit canned by the Panthers.

    It was a matter of time. Winning just kept things in balance.

    More and more players have confirmed it .. the play cost us everything. Pete’s buy in .. respect for Wilson .. everything all lit the door . Done. Nail in coffin pete killed it
    World champs sb48

    Aros wrote:

    Wait, MizzouHawkGal is a DUDE??
    User avatar
    hawksincebirth
    NET Veteran
     
    Posts: 541
    Joined: Sat Aug 18, 2012 4:12 pm
    Location: Marysville




It is currently Mon Oct 15, 2018 10:55 pm

Please REGISTER to become a member

Return to [ THE OFFICIAL NET NATION FAN FORUM ]




Information
  • Who is online