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Get Earl in now, he’s badly needed
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Trade Earl for no less than a 2nd round pick
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Trade Earl for whatever you can get
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Let him sit out, then let him walk in 2019 (potential comp pick)
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27%
Earl who?
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Sun Aug 19, 2018 3:32 pm
  • toffee wrote:I am really hating on jerruh, when a hall of fame FS at his prime personally hand picked your team as his only destination, you do whatever to accommodate his wishes.

    So insulting to Earl that jerruh made not even a half ass effort.

    McCloughan and Dorsey may come with their next year’s 1st for Earl, they need help in their secondary and they knew it,


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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:14 pm
  • I don't agree with making an example out of any player. It's a error to make things personal when they shouldn't be, and the discussions about who has the moral high ground are misguided here. Earl makes our defense better this year and it's strictly a cost-benefit decision from the team's side whether his performance will justify a large extension. Earl has his own decision to make about what he is willing to work for.

    Regarding whether we are in a Super Bowl window or not - does it really matter if Earl increases our SB odds from 3% to 4% or from 8% to 9%? This strikes me as committing the narrative fallacy where we group teams into categories (contenders, pretenders, rebuilders) strictly to simplify our thinking and discussions on these issues, but lose sight of the underlying truth in the process. If our goal is to maximize Super Bowl wins over a long period of time then optimum strategy is to take increases in our odds wherever they are cost effective. A 2% increase in a "rebuilding" year is mathematically equivalent to a 2% increase in a "contending" year.

    Ultimately, my main problem with this situation is that Earl sunk his own trade value with his bizarre actions. I believe Pete when he says that Earl told him he was going to report, perhaps as a leverage play on Earl's part. If instead Earl had played along in public but been up front in private then it's possible that he would already have his extension on a new team, and the Hawks would have another highly drafted rookie in camp right now. Now unfortunately it looks like neither side is going to get a good solution from this mess.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:28 pm
  • He's no Earl Thomas, but the Bengals just waived an above-average safety in George Iloka. That could give us some more leverage with Thomas.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:35 pm
  • AgentDib wrote:I don't agree with making an example out of any player. It's a error to make things personal when they shouldn't be, and the discussions about who has the moral high ground are misguided here. Earl makes our defense better this year and it's strictly a cost-benefit decision from the team's side whether his performance will justify a large extension. Earl has his own decision to make about what he is willing to work for.

    Regarding whether we are in a Super Bowl window or not - does it really matter if Earl increases our SB odds from 3% to 4% or from 8% to 9%? This strikes me as committing the narrative fallacy where we group teams into categories (contenders, pretenders, rebuilders) strictly to simplify our thinking and discussions on these issues, but lose sight of the underlying truth in the process. If our goal is to maximize Super Bowl wins over a long period of time then optimum strategy is to take increases in our odds wherever they are cost effective. A 2% increase in a "rebuilding" year is mathematically equivalent to a 2% increase in a "contending" year.

    Ultimately, my main problem with this situation is that Earl sunk his own trade value with his bizarre actions. I believe Pete when he says that Earl told him he was going to report, perhaps as a leverage play on Earl's part. If instead Earl had played along in public but been up front in private then it's possible that he would already have his extension on a new team, and the Hawks would have another highly drafted rookie in camp right now. Now unfortunately it looks like neither side is going to get a good solution from this mess.


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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Sun Aug 19, 2018 5:46 pm
  • Get Earl’s ass back here... or trade him to the Fins. With Kam’s retirement, the Fins already have the best SS in the league in a Reshad Jones. Pair him with the best FS and let Minkah Fitzpatrick learn from a HoFer...
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Sun Aug 19, 2018 6:17 pm
  • Just a different perspective, the Seahawks told Earl that they wouldn’t entertain any discussion on an extension with him. I wonder if they wouldn’t have taken such a hard stand from the get go that maybe Earl would have been more amicable to showing up to training camp. Earl may have had every intention to attend and that’s why he told Pete that but when the Seahawks refused to discuss an extension, he changed his mind and decided to hold out.
    Hell, for all we know maybe the Seahawks told Earl they weren’t going to discuss any extension with him last year therefore his antics after the Cowboys game. I believe both parties are at fault for the dissolution of this relationship. It’s unfortunate it’s going this way.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Sun Aug 19, 2018 7:56 pm
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:08 pm
  • A bad pre season game and its panic time. Earl will not save the season or make anything better. With his shitty attitude he will only make things worse.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:38 pm
  • If you trade Earl without getting “your price” in return you are encouraging holdouts in the future dictating your future moves.
    Not a good precedent to set. Hawks should tell Earl nothing will happen as long as he holds out and they will keep any fines in place until he comes in. ....and if he holds out into the regular season he misses game checks and risks being franchised for 2019 and 2020. I love ET the player on the field, but I also love the Hawks. Earl killed his own market value.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:33 pm
  • Trade Earl plus ‘19 third round pick for Mack, all pro for all pro. John and McKenzie should work out this deal.


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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:40 pm
  • toffee wrote:Trade Earl plus ‘19 third round pick for Mack, all pro for all pro. John and McKenzie should work out this deal.


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    That deal never made any sense. They would just be trading one problem holdout for another.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Sun Aug 19, 2018 11:47 pm
  • toffee wrote:Trade Earl plus ‘19 third round pick for Mack, all pro for all pro. John and McKenzie should work out this deal.


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    While I love Mack, I’m not sure this would work, not sure Oakland would do it anyhow.

    You’d have to get both players long term deals with their new teams before both would be traded..... plus Seattle would be without a 2nd (Brown) and 3rd in 2019. Unless they’d plan on going heavy in FA, thats not good for a rebuilding team to be missing a 2nd and a 3rd in the same draft. Just my .05 worth of course 8)
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:17 am
  • It has been reported that Earl wants 14mil a year. Players don’t care that a team can’t pay everyone everything they want or said team can not continue to be competitive. The salary cap is real and Seattle has Been been burned recently with Kams contract. The team holds every card at this point and really doesn’t have to budge. Earl is bleeding money right now, has to come back by week 8 or the season doesn’t count and Seattle can still franchise him next year for less money than he wants. I say absolutely no trades right now. We don’t need to give him away, he essentially can be a Seahawks at least this year and next for far less than a new deal and is worth far more than a lousy draft pick. Hawks own him and there isn’t anything other than lose money that he can do.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:41 am
  • FinNasty wrote:Get Earl’s ass back here... or trade him to the Fins. With Kam’s retirement, the Fins already have the best SS in the league in a Reshad Jones. Pair him with the best FS and let Minkah Fitzpatrick learn from a HoFer...


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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:44 am
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:01 am
  • I don't think this could have worked out any better for the Seahawks:

    1. You know he's going to begin to decline in the next 4 years and put you in a John Ryan situation.
    2. We have good depth at safety and a coach that's great at coaching up DBs (Pete).
    3. You didn't have any serious suitors around the draft, but by week 9 you may have a contender desperate for a FS.
    4. You don't have to pay him until week 9.

    So that fact that the team doesn't *need* him, doesn't have to pay him, and can hold on to his rights until they get an offer they like is a huge coup for this FO.

    I don't even feel bad for Earl. He's made plenty of money, so it's not like he's going to be eating ramen in the foreseeable future; and he's protected from injury. His 50 year old self will thank him for this holdout.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:02 am
  • My 2nd favorite player, but I'm right there with you, don't feel sorry for him one bit.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:30 am
  • Fade wrote:
    AgentDib wrote:I don't agree with making an example out of any player. It's a error to make things personal when they shouldn't be, and the discussions about who has the moral high ground are misguided here. Earl makes our defense better this year and it's strictly a cost-benefit decision from the team's side whether his performance will justify a large extension. Earl has his own decision to make about what he is willing to work for.

    Regarding whether we are in a Super Bowl window or not - does it really matter if Earl increases our SB odds from 3% to 4% or from 8% to 9%? This strikes me as committing the narrative fallacy where we group teams into categories (contenders, pretenders, rebuilders) strictly to simplify our thinking and discussions on these issues, but lose sight of the underlying truth in the process. If our goal is to maximize Super Bowl wins over a long period of time then optimum strategy is to take increases in our odds wherever they are cost effective. A 2% increase in a "rebuilding" year is mathematically equivalent to a 2% increase in a "contending" year.

    Ultimately, my main problem with this situation is that Earl sunk his own trade value with his bizarre actions. I believe Pete when he says that Earl told him he was going to report, perhaps as a leverage play on Earl's part. If instead Earl had played along in public but been up front in private then it's possible that he would already have his extension on a new team, and the Hawks would have another highly drafted rookie in camp right now. Now unfortunately it looks like neither side is going to get a good solution from this mess.


    I am glad you don't own the team, or we would be dealing with holdouts every year.


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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:05 am
  • Earl lost even more leverage with the news that Cincinnati cut George Iloka, who is nowhere near the player Earl is but will come cheaper and won't cost any draft picks, making him a better option for teams that need a safety but don't want to invest heavily in the position. In fact, it's sounding like the Raiders will pursue Iloka, which pretty much kills any chance of an Earl-for-Mack trade (though I doubt there was ever much of a chance of that anyway.)

    Honestly, Earl's best move would be to report today in exchange for A) having his fines waived, B) a promise from the team that they will trade him if they get a viable offer, and C) a promise from the team that they will not franchise him in 2019. Then come in, treat the last year of his contract like a one-year "prove it" deal, and do his best to show the league that he's worth every penny he's asking for. And, frankly, I think teams might be more likely to pay him the money he wants if he demonstrates that he is worth it and they don't have to trade a high draft pick for him.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:10 am
  • Shadowhawk wrote:
    Honestly, Earl's best move would be to report today in exchange for A) having his fines waived, B) a promise from the team that they will trade him if they get a viable offer, and C) a promise from the team that they will not franchise him in 2019. Then come in, treat the last year of his contract like a one-year "prove it" deal, and do his best to show the league that he's worth every penny he's asking for. And, frankly, I think teams might be more likely to pay him the money he wants if he demonstrates that he is worth it and they don't have to trade a high draft pick for him.


    My guess is Pete and John already offered this deal before camp even started.

    Our FO is one of the most open and fair FO's in the league, so if I had to guess John had open communication with Earl and his agent all along.

    Come in, ball out, and if we can get our asking price we'll trade you. Earl's the one who's decided to play the martyr card and hold out until he gets a new deal...................that isn't coming. Ever.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:27 am
  • LargentFan wrote:I might get hate for this, but I think Earl might be a top 5 all-time Seahawk. Add in that he is still playing top level football and I am sold on keeping him.

    Quick and dirty top 5 Seahawks of all time in no particular order...
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    Hmmm...Marshawn Lynch, Russell Wilson or Earl Thomas might fit here...
    Ok he's borderline top 5 all-time and a lock for top 10 all-time.

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    The next time Earl Thomas makes a play that no other player could make, don't you want to see him in a Seahawks jersey when he does it?

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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:48 pm
  • Shadowhawk wrote:Earl lost even more leverage with the news that Cincinnati cut George Iloka, who is nowhere near the player Earl is but will come cheaper and won't cost any draft picks, making him a better option for teams that need a safety but don't want to invest heavily in the position. In fact, it's sounding like the Raiders will pursue Iloka, which pretty much kills any chance of an Earl-for-Mack trade (though I doubt there was ever much of a chance of that anyway.)

    Honestly, Earl's best move would be to report today in exchange for A) having his fines waived, B) a promise from the team that they will trade him if they get a viable offer, and C) a promise from the team that they will not franchise him in 2019. Then come in, treat the last year of his contract like a one-year "prove it" deal, and do his best to show the league that he's worth every penny he's asking for. And, frankly, I think teams might be more likely to pay him the money he wants if he demonstrates that he is worth it and they don't have to trade a high draft pick for him.


    “So long God is with me, I will not fold.” Which part of our Earl’s declaration you don’t understand?


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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Mon Aug 20, 2018 4:56 pm
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    Shadowhawk wrote:Earl lost even more leverage with the news that Cincinnati cut George Iloka, who is nowhere near the player Earl is but will come cheaper and won't cost any draft picks, making him a better option for teams that need a safety but don't want to invest heavily in the position. In fact, it's sounding like the Raiders will pursue Iloka, which pretty much kills any chance of an Earl-for-Mack trade (though I doubt there was ever much of a chance of that anyway.)

    Honestly, Earl's best move would be to report today in exchange for A) having his fines waived, B) a promise from the team that they will trade him if they get a viable offer, and C) a promise from the team that they will not franchise him in 2019. Then come in, treat the last year of his contract like a one-year "prove it" deal, and do his best to show the league that he's worth every penny he's asking for. And, frankly, I think teams might be more likely to pay him the money he wants if he demonstrates that he is worth it and they don't have to trade a high draft pick for him.


    “So long God is with me, I will not fold.” Which part of our Earl’s declaration you don’t understand?


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    If he plans on following through with this statement, I sure hope he likes the idea of this season becoming null and void. Oh, and millions worth of fines to top it off. Earl Thomas is being an idiot.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:35 pm
  • Spin Doctor wrote:
    toffee wrote:
    Shadowhawk wrote:Earl lost even more leverage with the news that Cincinnati cut George Iloka, who is nowhere near the player Earl is but will come cheaper and won't cost any draft picks, making him a better option for teams that need a safety but don't want to invest heavily in the position. In fact, it's sounding like the Raiders will pursue Iloka, which pretty much kills any chance of an Earl-for-Mack trade (though I doubt there was ever much of a chance of that anyway.)

    Honestly, Earl's best move would be to report today in exchange for A) having his fines waived, B) a promise from the team that they will trade him if they get a viable offer, and C) a promise from the team that they will not franchise him in 2019. Then come in, treat the last year of his contract like a one-year "prove it" deal, and do his best to show the league that he's worth every penny he's asking for. And, frankly, I think teams might be more likely to pay him the money he wants if he demonstrates that he is worth it and they don't have to trade a high draft pick for him.


    “So long God is with me, I will not fold.” Which part of our Earl’s declaration you don’t understand?


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    If he plans on following through with this statement, I sure hope he likes the idea of this season becoming null and void. Oh, and millions worth of fines to top it off. Earl Thomas is being an idiot.


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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Tue Aug 21, 2018 5:48 am
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:10 am
  • toffee wrote:
    Spin Doctor wrote:
    toffee wrote:
    Shadowhawk wrote:Earl lost even more leverage with the news that Cincinnati cut George Iloka, who is nowhere near the player Earl is but will come cheaper and won't cost any draft picks, making him a better option for teams that need a safety but don't want to invest heavily in the position. In fact, it's sounding like the Raiders will pursue Iloka, which pretty much kills any chance of an Earl-for-Mack trade (though I doubt there was ever much of a chance of that anyway.)

    Honestly, Earl's best move would be to report today in exchange for A) having his fines waived, B) a promise from the team that they will trade him if they get a viable offer, and C) a promise from the team that they will not franchise him in 2019. Then come in, treat the last year of his contract like a one-year "prove it" deal, and do his best to show the league that he's worth every penny he's asking for. And, frankly, I think teams might be more likely to pay him the money he wants if he demonstrates that he is worth it and they don't have to trade a high draft pick for him.


    “So long God is with me, I will not fold.” Which part of our Earl’s declaration you don’t understand?


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    If he plans on following through with this statement, I sure hope he likes the idea of this season becoming null and void. Oh, and millions worth of fines to top it off. Earl Thomas is being an idiot.


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Earl Thomas desirability poll
Tue Aug 21, 2018 6:10 am
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:Right, because "god" really cares about football [emoji1]


    In fairness, it matters not your (or mine)opinion of “god”.

    I don’t care one way or the other but what matters in this case is the belief and conviction of the person originally using the term, and that would be ETIII.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:01 am
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:27 am
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    Shadowhawk wrote:Earl lost even more leverage with the news that Cincinnati cut George Iloka, who is nowhere near the player Earl is but will come cheaper and won't cost any draft picks, making him a better option for teams that need a safety but don't want to invest heavily in the position. In fact, it's sounding like the Raiders will pursue Iloka, which pretty much kills any chance of an Earl-for-Mack trade (though I doubt there was ever much of a chance of that anyway.)

    Honestly, Earl's best move would be to report today in exchange for A) having his fines waived, B) a promise from the team that they will trade him if they get a viable offer, and C) a promise from the team that they will not franchise him in 2019. Then come in, treat the last year of his contract like a one-year "prove it" deal, and do his best to show the league that he's worth every penny he's asking for. And, frankly, I think teams might be more likely to pay him the money he wants if he demonstrates that he is worth it and they don't have to trade a high draft pick for him.


    “So long God is with me, I will not fold.” Which part of our Earl’s declaration you don’t understand?


    None of it.

    Unfortunately God doesn't give a rat's ass about millionaires getting more millions playing a game, so not sure why Earl has decided to get all righteous and use his faith as the reason he's holding out.

    Probably because that sounds way more selfless and admirable than "hey I'm greedy and I'm just trying to get as much money as possible."
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Tue Aug 21, 2018 7:35 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    toffee wrote:
    Shadowhawk wrote:Earl lost even more leverage with the news that Cincinnati cut George Iloka, who is nowhere near the player Earl is but will come cheaper and won't cost any draft picks, making him a better option for teams that need a safety but don't want to invest heavily in the position. In fact, it's sounding like the Raiders will pursue Iloka, which pretty much kills any chance of an Earl-for-Mack trade (though I doubt there was ever much of a chance of that anyway.)

    Honestly, Earl's best move would be to report today in exchange for A) having his fines waived, B) a promise from the team that they will trade him if they get a viable offer, and C) a promise from the team that they will not franchise him in 2019. Then come in, treat the last year of his contract like a one-year "prove it" deal, and do his best to show the league that he's worth every penny he's asking for. And, frankly, I think teams might be more likely to pay him the money he wants if he demonstrates that he is worth it and they don't have to trade a high draft pick for him.


    “So long God is with me, I will not fold.” Which part of our Earl’s declaration you don’t understand?


    None of it.

    Unfortunately God doesn't give a rat's ass about millionaires getting more millions playing a game, so not sure why Earl has decided to get all righteous and use his faith as the reason he's holding out.

    Probably because that sounds way more selfless and admirable than "hey I'm greedy and I'm just trying to get as much money as possible."


    He got the idea from the homeless and hungry signs he drives past in one of his cars from his collection.

    Can you blame him? Dude has to eat too? :stirthepot:

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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
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  • Yeah, these guys have it sooooo rough
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Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:32 am
  • pmedic920 wrote:
    SoulfishHawk wrote:Right, because "god" really cares about football [emoji1]


    In fairness, it matters not your (or mine)opinion of “god”.

    I don’t care one way or the other but what matters in this case is the belief and conviction of the person originally using the term, and that would be ETIII.


    This.

    I fully support our Earl, not just because his is my dawg, I admire that he personifies Alonso Quixano, and his knight-errant-ish quest to do the right thing: play only for Jerruh, $14mil a season, 5 seasons minimum. Pete and John are wrong to stood in the way of Earl's quest.

    Our Earl is Sir Quixote of La Mancha, his Quixotic quest to right the unrightable wrong is noble, So with God on Earl's side, he will not fold.

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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:48 am
  • Now I really don't know how to feel about this thread.
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:48 am
  • You know Don Quixote was admittedly insane right? Which might not be a bad comparison for Earl, he is a little "off."

    I admire Earl's convictions, even if I think he's not being honest with himself with why he's holding out. We all love money, just say it. No need to make it about something it's not.
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Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:51 am
  • I thought this was the giveaway that toffee wasn't serious.

    I fully support our Earl, not just because his is my dawg, I admire that he personifies Alonso Quixano, and his knight-errant-ish quest to do the right thing: play only for Jerruh, $14mil a season, 5 seasons minimum. Pete and John are wrong to stood in the way of Earl's quest.


    Maybe he is? I'm so confused.
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Tue Aug 21, 2018 8:58 am
  • JGfromtheNW wrote:I thought this was the giveaway that toffee wasn't serious.

    I fully support our Earl, not just because his is my dawg, I admire that he personifies Alonso Quixano, and his knight-errant-ish quest to do the right thing: play only for Jerruh, $14mil a season, 5 seasons minimum. Pete and John are wrong to stood in the way of Earl's quest.


    Maybe he is? I'm so confused.


    Hahaha, toffee might not be 100% serious, but our Earl is putting his $$$ on the line, he is dead serious. At this point, it has evolved into a quest to Earl.

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Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:08 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:You know Don Quixote was admittedly insane right? Which might not be a bad comparison for Earl, he is a little "off."

    I admire Earl's convictions, even if I think he's not being honest with himself with why he's holding out. We all love money, just say it. No need to make it about something it's not.



    Perhaps, Don Quixote's idealism and nobility are viewed by the post-chivalric world as insane, and are defeated and rendered useless by common reality. Similarly, our Earl's being wronged and needing to feed children are rendered greedy by common folks.

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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Tue Aug 21, 2018 9:11 am
  • toffee went 3rd person, this is getting good.

    If you're on Earl's side with the holdout, please explain any scenario where he gets the Eric Berry-esque 40M guaranteed at 14-15M per year that he wants? Even if he comes back, plays great then we're just going to franchise him next year in hopes of a better trade offer next off season.

    Hell, he's gonna lose half his salary this year if he comes back in week 10. That's 5M gone, what sense does that make?
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Tue Aug 21, 2018 11:13 am
  • toffee wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:You know Don Quixote was admittedly insane right? Which might not be a bad comparison for Earl, he is a little "off."

    I admire Earl's convictions, even if I think he's not being honest with himself with why he's holding out. We all love money, just say it. No need to make it about something it's not.



    Perhaps, Don Quixote's idealism and nobility are viewed by the post-chivalric world as insane, and are defeated and rendered useless by common reality. Similarly, our Earl's being wronged and needing to feed children are rendered greedy by common folks.


    He'll be "our Earl" when he's back playing for "our" team. Until then, he's his own Earl, not mine.
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Tue Aug 21, 2018 3:20 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:toffee went 3rd person, this is getting good.

    If you're on Earl's side with the holdout, please explain any scenario where he gets the Eric Berry-esque 40M guaranteed at 14-15M per year that he wants? Even if he comes back, plays great then we're just going to franchise him next year in hopes of a better trade offer next off season.

    Hell, he's gonna lose half his salary this year if he comes back in week 10. That's 5M gone, what sense does that make?


    I find it hard to be on Earl's side in this (from a few perspectives) but I also can't stand people hectoring him for doing what he's doing. Like of all the terrible things in the world to raise someone's pulse in the world Earl is the one who gets the stick? People that say sports is their refuge from the rest of the world are lying liars as their state of mind is projected onto sports to pick at the larger scabs that are bugging them without changing the situation or asking anything tangible from them.

    If people took the same effort they put into criticizing football players for playing salary games into literally anything else that's even seemingly productive...I imagine the world would be a better place.
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  • Caption: "I’m grateful for a great team around me that helps and wants me be successful!"

    Not gonna lie, the ballsiness/absurdity of this put a smile on my face. :mrgreen:
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:33 pm
  • Earl had it made being placed in the Ring of Honor. What has he chosen to do instead? Rip his name off the walls of Seahawk stadium and tear up $5,000,000. Most rational people would call that "crazy, irrational thinking"!
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Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:37 pm
  • Bigpumpkin wrote:Earl had it made being placed in the Ring of Honor. What has he chosen to do instead? Rip his name off the walls of Seahawk stadium and tear up $5,000,000. Most rational people would call that "crazy, irrational thinking"!


    Quixotic indeed.


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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:03 am
  • So right now Earl is the fourth highest paid Seahawk and second highest paid defender behind Russell, Baldwin, and B Wags. Wagner was just featured in a clip shown on GMF saying the Earl just wants to be paid as much as an offensive player? Are these guys upset that Baldwin makes more than them or are they wanting to change the whole league and get paid more than the QB?
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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Thu Aug 23, 2018 8:05 am
  • mrt144 wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:toffee went 3rd person, this is getting good.

    If you're on Earl's side with the holdout, please explain any scenario where he gets the Eric Berry-esque 40M guaranteed at 14-15M per year that he wants? Even if he comes back, plays great then we're just going to franchise him next year in hopes of a better trade offer next off season.

    Hell, he's gonna lose half his salary this year if he comes back in week 10. That's 5M gone, what sense does that make?


    I find it hard to be on Earl's side in this (from a few perspectives) but I also can't stand people hectoring him for doing what he's doing. Like of all the terrible things in the world to raise someone's pulse in the world Earl is the one who gets the stick? People that say sports is their refuge from the rest of the world are lying liars as their state of mind is projected onto sports to pick at the larger scabs that are bugging them without changing the situation or asking anything tangible from them.

    If people took the same effort they put into criticizing football players for playing salary games into literally anything else that's even seemingly productive...I imagine the world would be a better place.



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Re: Earl Thomas desirability poll
Thu Aug 23, 2018 5:29 pm
  • toffee wrote:Perhaps, Don Quixote's idealism and nobility are viewed by the post-chivalric world as insane, and are defeated and rendered useless by common reality. Similarly, our Earl's being wronged and needing to feed children are rendered greedy by common folks.

    The dude's already been paid $50 million. How fat are his kids?!?!?
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