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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:08 am
  • His beef really should be with the CBA and NFLPA who put the players and teams in these situations. No wonder teams can't hang onto their stars anymore.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:20 am
  • 12thbrah wrote:His beef really should be with the CBA and NFLPA who put the players and teams in these situations. No wonder teams can't hang onto their stars anymore.

    Care to elaborate?
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:26 am
  • 12thbrah wrote:His beef really should be with the CBA and NFLPA who put the players and teams in these situations. No wonder teams can't hang onto their stars anymore.


    Earl wasn't beefing when he signed his 40M contract in 2015 with 25M guaranteed, 10M bonus and would see every penny of the 40M if he showed up to camp and played the entire season.

    But HE'S chosen to go the holdout route demanding a new contract..............when all he has to do is come in, ball out and show the rest of the league that he's healthy and productive.

    THAT'S how he can squeeze another extension out of the league. It's sure as hell not by holding out, not playing and keeping all the injury prone and age/production questions in eternal limbo.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:49 am
  • Yep. ET needs to get his ass into camp and show the world he still has it. Then after this season let the chips fall how they may.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 06, 2018 8:55 am
  • What Largent said.........
    He wasn't complaining one bit when he got that huge contract. Now a few years later, he's being "disrespected"
    I love me some Earl, but enough already. Get back to work.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:32 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    12thbrah wrote:His beef really should be with the CBA and NFLPA who put the players and teams in these situations. No wonder teams can't hang onto their stars anymore.


    Earl wasn't beefing when he signed his 40M contract in 2015 with 25M guaranteed, 10M bonus and would see every penny of the 40M if he showed up to camp and played the entire season.

    But HE'S chosen to go the holdout route demanding a new contract..............when all he has to do is come in, ball out and show the rest of the league that he's healthy and productive.

    THAT'S how he can squeeze another extension out of the league. It's sure as hell not by holding out, not playing and keeping all the injury prone and age/production questions in eternal limbo.


    Not good enough for Earl! He needs security for his family. What if he gets injured this year? How is he going to collect millions of $$ for sitting in the tub rehabing and crying in his drink about retirement?

    That is his mentality, he wants to know he can rape the team (any team...money all spends the same) for $$ if he gets injured this season. :pukeface:
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 06, 2018 9:47 am
  • Seymour wrote:
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    12thbrah wrote:His beef really should be with the CBA and NFLPA who put the players and teams in these situations. No wonder teams can't hang onto their stars anymore.


    Earl wasn't beefing when he signed his 40M contract in 2015 with 25M guaranteed, 10M bonus and would see every penny of the 40M if he showed up to camp and played the entire season.

    But HE'S chosen to go the holdout route demanding a new contract..............when all he has to do is come in, ball out and show the rest of the league that he's healthy and productive.

    THAT'S how he can squeeze another extension out of the league. It's sure as hell not by holding out, not playing and keeping all the injury prone and age/production questions in eternal limbo.


    Not good enough for Earl! He needs security for his family. What if he gets injured this year? How is he going to collect millions of $$ for sitting in the tub rehabing and crying in his drink about retirement?

    That is his mentality, he wants to know he can rape the team (any team...money all spends the same) for $$ if he gets injured this season. :pukeface:


    I get that, and it's a common refrain from players when looking for another extension in their last year.

    The problem for Earl is he has no leverage, and that's what it takes to force a team's hand on giving in to your contract demands.

    Look around the league, all the great defensive stars aren't getting what they want. If guys in their prime like Mack and Donald can't get extensions, why the hell would Earl and his agent think he can?

    It's insanity to me. Get your ass in camp, have an all pro year, and then there absolutely will be teams interested in giving you an extension............maybe not an Eric Berry-esque extension, but certainly better than losing half your 2018 salary in holdout fines and missed game checks.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:33 pm
  • I get why ET is doing this, this will be pretty much his last contract. Cant fault the guy, its his last year not like Kam's holdout.

    I would love for him to play one more year for us but its not looking like it. Im also torn if he does come back whatever week should he get his starting job back? If not, do we just trade him then. Do we play him to ball out and get a nice comp pick or do we franchise him....

    I really feel sorry for Earl in such a bad timing on his contract situation. His agent should know better.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:45 pm
  • Holding out, under the current rules, is irrational behavior. He is hurting himself, racking up fines and degrading his own stock, and hurting his team. You can count on one hand the number of players who have continued a holdout into the season, under the current CBA.

    He says “extend me or trade me,” but both things become less likely with a holdout. Seahawks are not going to set the bad precedent that would encourage future players to hold the team hostage for the unlikely possibility of greater financial gain. It also means he is not on the field proving he is as good, and as committed to football, as he ever has been. Duane Brown rocked it during the workouts and practices — and ended up with an extension.

    No team will trade for him because they know he could continue his holdout after the trade. That means not only do the Seahawks have to accomplish the hard task of agreeing to terms with a trade partner, but Earl would also need to come to terms on an extension with that trade partner for a trade to make sense. That is a high bar with a minuscule chance of actually happening. Seahawks are forced to sit on his contractual rights (and continue to fine him) until he decides to show up.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 06, 2018 5:20 pm
  • You have to factor personal ego and feelings into these decisions. Few people are rational about separating past performance from future pay in their own careers and athletes have the same blind spot.

    Hutch felt slighted by us and opted to play elsewhere for the exact same contract even though he had been successful here. Okung felt slighted and took a cheap one year deal elsewhere that was likely not better than what we were offering. Duane Brown held out last season but then not only showed up to play under the same contract when the Hawks traded for him, but continued to show up this off-season without a single word about holding out. His animosity was with the Texans because he felt he deserved a big contract based on a long and successful career, and that animosity usually sticks to a player's existing team or an employee's existing company.

    Reading between the lines, Earl has been mentally on his way out for a while now. The way that he says in this article that many of the LoB did not end well in Seattle, the way that he was expecting Seattle to "kick him to the curb" with 1.5 years still on his contract, his comments about previous Seahawks but not current Seahawks. I think it started about money when his camp probably asked about an extension last off-season and were turned down, but at this point Earl really does want to be elsewhere and wouldn't sign for a similar deal here if a more desirable team was offering the same.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:40 am
  • I have less then no simpithy for his situation, someone who has accrued 60 million in the last 8 years doesn’t deserve to complain when it’s him that isn’t living upto his end of the deal.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:42 am
  • How about we trade him to Oakland for Mack....ESPN thinks he could be moved for the right price.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:48 am
  • soxhawk wrote:How about we trade him to Oakland for Mack....ESPN thinks he could be moved for the right price.


    Why would Oakland do that?

    Mack is one of the top 2-3 defensive players in the league, he's younger, no injury history, plays LB/DE which is a much harder position to fill than safety.

    If they don't want to give an extension to Mack for his price, they're sure as hell not going to want Earl and his injury baggage, age and contract demands.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 07, 2018 11:03 am
  • Agreeing with Bruce Irvin, Earl is my dawg too, but I also rather have Mack.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:49 pm
  • Earl must have made some mistakes in managing his finances.

    Once you sign your first contract, you should look at the guaranteed money you will be getting and plan the rest of your life based on that. And yes, it should be enough to feed yourself and your entire family for the rest of your life. You should be able to buy a house and pay for the property taxes and utilities and food and transportation for the rest of your life.

    You just have to make sure you plan within your means. You can't maintain a lifestyle of living in giant mansions and driving expensive cars and wearing expensive clothes and eating at expensive restaurants your entire life. I think too many players get the idea that the NFL is going give them that status for the rest of their lives.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 07, 2018 2:54 pm
  • You guys should maybe remember that you are Seahawk fans not Earl fans.

    It is possible that you are only looking at this from the team perspective and not the player perspective.....
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:05 pm
  • mikeak wrote:You guys should maybe remember that you are Seahawk fans not Earl fans.

    It is possible that you are only looking at this from the team perspective and not the player perspective.....


    I did, just the way Earl screw his trade and contract value again and again was hard to witness.

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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:11 pm
  • mikeak wrote:You guys should maybe remember that you are Seahawk fans not Earl fans.

    It is possible that you are only looking at this from the team perspective and not the player perspective.....



    Probably because Earl has "I" problems.
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Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:27 pm
  • mikeak wrote:You guys should maybe remember that you are Seahawk fans not Earl fans.

    It is possible that you are only looking at this from the team perspective and not the player perspective.....


    Was Earl thinking seahawks when he asked Garrett for a job?
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:36 pm
  • mikeak wrote:You guys should maybe remember that you are Seahawk fans not Earl fans.

    It is possible that you are only looking at this from the team perspective and not the player perspective.....


    If only that were the case, it'd be so much easier.

    Are the Hawks better with Earl? Yes.
    Is Earl better off with the Hawks? Maybe.
    Does Earl have labor tools that peons don't because he contributes to a billion dollar entertainment enterprise? Yes.
    Do peons resent him for it? Yes.

    Some of y'all are like smack addicts, mad that their dealer is late and cutting the product too much. The problem isn't your dealer, the problem is your addiction and how you'd likely turn a blind eye to all manner of moral depravity so long as you get your fix and will blame everything else but yourself for subverting that nirvana of a hit.

    So continue to stew about how egregious a holdout is while you carelessly throw your money at institutions and organizations that would happily lie to your face about the moral rot within them. Why have a conscience when you can grandstand?
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:39 pm
  • Cyrus12 wrote:
    mikeak wrote:You guys should maybe remember that you are Seahawk fans not Earl fans.

    It is possible that you are only looking at this from the team perspective and not the player perspective.....


    Was Earl thinking seahawks when he asked Garrett for a job?
    . The only logical possibility: “How do I publicly make Pete and John look like they have lost the locker room?” Earl has his Hahahaha moment after the come get me: see it’s in national tv and it will be shown for decades to come, how funny, Pete’s reputation as a players coach is done, hahaha.

    If he was pitching for a job, normal channel would be through his agent, if he had to pimp, got to pimp to the decider, ie definitely not Garrett who has no power in that area.

    But karma is a bitch, Earl is persona non grata, no owners, GMs, HCs are willing to risk being publicly humiliated. So, An all pro at his prime sitting at home with zero interest from teams including the one he already publicly humiliated.


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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 07, 2018 3:59 pm
  • fenderbender123 wrote:Earl must have made some mistakes in managing his finances.

    Once you sign your first contract, you should look at the guaranteed money you will be getting and plan the rest of your life based on that. And yes, it should be enough to feed yourself and your entire family for the rest of your life. You should be able to buy a house and pay for the property taxes and utilities and food and transportation for the rest of your life.

    You just have to make sure you plan within your means. You can't maintain a lifestyle of living in giant mansions and driving expensive cars and wearing expensive clothes and eating at expensive restaurants your entire life. I think too many players get the idea that the NFL is going give them that status for the rest of their lives.


    Could be or...
    He wants what amounts to 'make it worth my while' money to stay in Seattle. He is gambling on his value to the org. I have done this a couple of times at my job over 10 years and the company always buckles. 10 years is a lot of time to be at one place and I cant blame a guy who is basically done trying to scrap together everything he can to make it worth his while or get released into the wild.

    Sometimes youre done with an organization but a couple of extra Gs a month to kick the can down the road makes it worth it to stay. Not everyone can walk in to work and ball when they are in the doldrums but ET might be that rare HOF cat who can.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 07, 2018 4:00 pm
  • Some of you are getting way too emotional about this and while Earl is emotional - I think this is a business decision.

    It is in Earl's best interest to hold out for another contract than it is to play his time out on his existing one.

    Yes, the fines are heavy. But every game he plays is a potential for him to get injured. Guys HAVE gotten injured in their last year and then lost out on big contracts because of it.

    If Earl can hold out and only play 1/3 of the games less that is still a 30% less chance of terrible injury destroying his ability to get a new contract. Especially considering we know he will have to play SOME of the season, just to perform enough to the contract to assure that this counts as a year the Seahawks lose.

    Unless you hold the position he will not get another contract, OR that the total value of his next contract is not worth the money he would have made this year....it makes sense for him to hold out as many games as he can. Because in doing, he lessens the chance he gets injured and gets nothing*

    *Though, guys who hold out of TC have an interesting habit of getting injured more in the year

    Either way, it does not have to be that he hates the Seahawks or isn't respectful, greatful or the rest. He could just be serving his own self interest and his own self interest is best served by playing as little as possible until he can get his (likely last) new contract.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Wed Aug 08, 2018 1:55 am
  • TwistedHusky wrote:Some of you are getting way too emotional about this and while Earl is emotional - I think this is a business decision.

    It is in Earl's best interest to hold out for another contract than it is to play his time out on his existing one.

    Yes, the fines are heavy. But every game he plays is a potential for him to get injured. Guys HAVE gotten injured in their last year and then lost out on big contracts because of it.

    If Earl can hold out and only play 1/3 of the games less that is still a 30% less chance of terrible injury destroying his ability to get a new contract. Especially considering we know he will have to play SOME of the season, just to perform enough to the contract to assure that this counts as a year the Seahawks lose.

    Unless you hold the position he will not get another contract, OR that the total value of his next contract is not worth the money he would have made this year....it makes sense for him to hold out as many games as he can. Because in doing, he lessens the chance he gets injured and gets nothing*

    *Though, guys who hold out of TC have an interesting habit of getting injured more in the year

    Either way, it does not have to be that he hates the Seahawks or isn't respectful, greatful or the rest. He could just be serving his own self interest and his own self interest is best served by playing as little as possible until he can get his (likely last) new contract.


    It is a business, and Earl's value is tanking. No team will pay big money to sign a 30 yr old, small, injury prone (recent history), malcontent, distraction, me-guy. He ruined the value of his next contract.

    Someone will sign him, he is too good, but it will be for very little guaranteed money. That security he is looking for won't be found. This holdout is going to cost himself multiple millions this year if he takes it up to the limit, and it will cost him in free agency next off-season.

    That is bad business.

    Earl is screwing over Earl more than he is screwing over the Seahawks. And it is all self-inflicted, he did it to himself.

    The better strategy would have been to grit his teeth & bare it, play ball, have the best season of his career, and have teams banging down the door to sign him. Won't happen now.

    He is looking at a Sherman type contract with the same very low guarantees at best, at worst a 1 yr prove it deal.

    On the open market if Earl just has a typical Earl year he would've netted 5yrs $13-14M APY. 40-50% guaranteed. He easily would've got this with the salary cap going up. Not from the Seahawks, but from another team.

    Now post holdout he is looking at 3yrs $8-11M APY, low signing bonus, only yr 1 guaranteed. At best. He actually has to come back from his holdout probably mid-season, and show he can play at a high level. If there are any questions about his ability he will be looking at a 1 yr incentive based prove it contract. The same kind of contract he would have received had he gotten hurt anyway.

    Instead now he has no shot at the mega-deal he is looking for. It's a business alright and Earl cost himself millions.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:19 am
  • Fade wrote:
    On the open market if Earl just has a typical Earl year he would've netted 5yrs $13-14M APY. 40-50% guaranteed. He easily would've got this with the salary cap going up. Not from the Seahawks, but from another team.


    I agree with everything in your post except for the above.

    Those numbers could have been for a 25-year old Earl coming off of his rookie contract (had that occurred in 2017 when Eric Berry signed his extension) but those numbers are WAY too high for a 29-year old Earl looking for contract #3. The safety market is flat and Earl loses out on that aspect alone.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:42 am
  • All ET has to do is come back after holding out the maximum he can, ball out, and he probably receives the same kind of extension (contract) he would have gotten anyway - obviously somewhere else. Additionally, he limits wear and tear on his body and potential for injury.

    You are going to see this more. Mack is doing this. So is Donald.

    Teams cut players before their contract is up all the time. Players have the right to hold out, and now they are doing so more.

    Now you can argue that players that come back after several games of holding out tend to get injured more (at least it seems that way) and I would not dispute that. But you cannot argue it is irrational for him to hold out - even if you disagree that the outcome will be better for the player.

    And ET is a pretty confident dude, so telling him that he cannot come back after missing a few games and still produce? I think he believes he can. He might even be better, because if he has any nagging injuries that a lot of players have after years in the league - he has more time to heal. But that is speculation.

    What is not speculation is that this is happening more and more. So it shouldn't be shocking or even upsetting at this point.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:06 am
  • TwistedHusky wrote:
    Now you can argue that players that come back after several games of holding out tend to get injured more (at least it seems that way) and I would not dispute that. But you cannot argue it is irrational for him to hold out - even if you disagree that the outcome will be better for the player.

    And ET is a pretty confident dude, so telling him that he cannot come back after missing a few games and still produce? I think he believes he can. He might even be better, because if he has any nagging injuries that a lot of players have after years in the league - he has more time to heal. But that is speculation.

    What is not speculation is that this is happening more and more. So it shouldn't be shocking or even upsetting at this point.



    1. Players have always held out. Remember Joey Galloway? Hell, Walter Jones held out of training camp for like five years straight trying to get a new deal.

    2. Yes other players like Donald and Mack are doing the same thing, and it isn't working for them either. Donald's been trying to get a new deal for three years. That's the leverage teams have over players, they can franchise great players for at LEAST 1-2 years and not hurt their cap.

    3. The statistics prove Earl wrong if he thinks he can come back during the season and play well. The stats show that the longer the player holds out the less productive they are and the higher probability of injury. Because they didn't get their reps, and they didn't get into football shape.

    So sorry, holdouts make no sense to me. Especially in Earl's case where the entire league is watching to see if he can still play at an All Pro level without getting injured. How is holding out helping raise his value on the market to get the extension he wants?
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:32 am
  • ^^^^^^^ Yep....and not only that.....they will never make back the 5+ million in lost wages. That is 1/2 a year of your career you just lost making the useless point that everyone already understands before you attempted to "make it".
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Wed Aug 08, 2018 7:53 pm
  • onanygivensunday wrote:
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    On the open market if Earl just has a typical Earl year he would've netted 5yrs $13-14M APY. 40-50% guaranteed. He easily would've got this with the salary cap going up. Not from the Seahawks, but from another team.


    I agree with everything in your post except for the above.

    Those numbers could have been for a 25-year old Earl coming off of his rookie contract (had that occurred in 2017 when Eric Berry signed his extension) but those numbers are WAY too high for a 29-year old Earl looking for contract #3. The safety market is flat and Earl loses out on that aspect alone.


    How so? It is inline with what Eric Berry got at the same age. Berry got 6 yrs $13M APY at age 29. So Earl getting 5yrs $13M APY at age 30 with a higher salary cap in place is very likely. Safeties are not runningbacks they don't fall off a cliff at age 30.

    The 5 yr deal is just window dressing to spread out the proration of the signing bonus he would have received to keep his salary cap hit lower. In reality it really is a 3 yr $13M APY deal with only yr 3 guaranteed for injury. He won't be receiving that now though so it is all moot.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:10 pm
  • Adding Thomas to another team will not separate them from good to great and his contract wishes will do the opposite. I would trade him for a 3rd and a Jimmy Garrapolo penecilin shot
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Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:13 pm
  • Adding Thomas to another team will not separate them from good to great and his contract wishes will do the opposite. I would trade him for a 3rd and a Jimmy Garrapolo penecilin shot
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Wed Aug 08, 2018 8:36 pm
  • Seymour wrote:^^^^^^^ Yep....and not only that.....they will never make back the 5+ million in lost wages. That is 1/2 a year of your career you just lost making the useless point that everyone already understands before you attempted to "make it".


    This,

    My point has been that Eerl screwed himself over and over and over and still insist on doing more screwing as he sits at home getting angrier.

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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Wed Aug 08, 2018 9:43 pm
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    12thbrah wrote:His beef really should be with the CBA and NFLPA who put the players and teams in these situations. No wonder teams can't hang onto their stars anymore.


    Earl wasn't beefing when he signed his 40M contract in 2015 with 25M guaranteed, 10M bonus and would see every penny of the 40M if he showed up to camp and played the entire season.

    But HE'S chosen to go the holdout route demanding a new contract..............when all he has to do is come in, ball out and show the rest of the league that he's healthy and productive.

    THAT'S how he can squeeze another extension out of the league. It's sure as hell not by holding out, not playing and keeping all the injury prone and age/production questions in eternal limbo.


    I see it the same way.

    I've lost respect for him.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Thu Aug 09, 2018 8:18 am
  • This whole segment was pretty good, but I especially like what Doug Gottlieb says at 5:22.

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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Thu Aug 09, 2018 9:01 am
  • twisted_steel2 wrote:This whole segment was pretty good, but I especially like what Doug Gottlieb says at 5:22.



    Note to Earl, our HOF all star FS at his prime:

    You must stand by your value, your pride, and your words. You mustn't succumb to temptations and cross the pickett line. You must holdout til the end, which is at least till the end of this season, and if the SeaHawks, aka big meanie, dare to franchise ya, got to hold out on that tool. You said it yourself:

    "As long as God is with me, I will never fold ."

    Earl, you are a man of your words, a supernatural man of principle , God will be with you till the end, toffee and other homers are with you if you stick to your words.

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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Sun Aug 12, 2018 5:38 pm
  • I wonder how this earl situation is going to play out. Someone asked me today what i think about about it. I'm going to be honest Earl is done here. I honestly think earl doesnt play all year I think he holds out. After the season earl has burned all his bridges here and wont get any big money. He handled this entire situation wrong imo. His 2015 extension was almost all up front money, it was a front loaded contract now hes holding out for more money. The way he has handled this makes him look like a greedy ass athlete. If another team wanted to trade for him it would have happened already.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:24 pm
  • Disingenuous
    I’m not a Gotlieb fan but he is 100% correct about Earl Thomas. His kids aren’t in danger of starvation and he hasn’t been disrespected in the slightest by the Hawks. He was paid a front loaded contract structured as he and his agent requested at a league high for his position and that contract is still in force and being honored by the team. It is Earl Thomas who has been disrespectful to the Seahawks in his dealings. Even so I still hope that the team reaches a fair extension to his existing contract so that he can finish out his career in Seattle instead of the fans having to watch an all time great finish out his days in Buffalo or Cleveland.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:40 pm
  • Aros wrote:Yep. ET needs to get his ass into camp and show the world he still has it. Then after this season let the chips fall how they may.


    I don’t think he ever plays another down as a Seahawks player. His position is foolish, selfish, stupid, and his press releases are a comical tour de force. He has placed himself ahead of his team and doesn’t deserve to be renewed here. Pete won’t have him back and the team won’t give into him. He’s gonzo.

    I’d give a good bit of his money to K J Wright who showed up and is his usual dependable self.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 13, 2018 12:02 am
  • brimsalabim wrote:
    Disingenuous
    I’m not a Gotlieb fan but he is 100% correct about Earl Thomas. His kids aren’t in danger of starvation and he hasn’t been disrespected in the slightest by the Hawks. He was paid a front loaded contract structured as he and his agent requested at a league high for his position and that contract is still in force and being honored by the team. It is Earl Thomas who has been disrespectful to the Seahawks in his dealings. Even so I still hope that the team reaches a fair extension to his existing contract so that he can finish out his career in Seattle instead of the fans having to watch an all time great finish out his days in Buffalo or Cleveland.

    Oh I'd love to see end up playing for those two teams because that means we got some good picks
    for him and he deserves to play for whoever but the Cowboys..
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 13, 2018 7:53 am
  • Vesuve wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    12thbrah wrote:His beef really should be with the CBA and NFLPA who put the players and teams in these situations. No wonder teams can't hang onto their stars anymore.


    Earl wasn't beefing when he signed his 40M contract in 2015 with 25M guaranteed, 10M bonus and would see every penny of the 40M if he showed up to camp and played the entire season.

    But HE'S chosen to go the holdout route demanding a new contract..............when all he has to do is come in, ball out and show the rest of the league that he's healthy and productive.

    THAT'S how he can squeeze another extension out of the league. It's sure as hell not by holding out, not playing and keeping all the injury prone and age/production questions in eternal limbo.


    I see it the same way.

    I've lost respect for him.


    I haven't lost respect for Earl, I love Earl. If every player prepared and played as hard as Earl Thomas, we'd never lose.

    I just think he's an emotional irrational immature person, and that gets in the way of him seeing things clearly..............and IMO he's not going to get what he wants by holding out.

    We're not going to budge, and no one else is going to back up the Brinks truck for him when he's not playing and showing everyone he's still a great player and can stay healthy.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:13 am
  • I will only lost respect for Earl if he folds which he won't as long as God's with him. As a loyal foot soldier of Earl'sl army, we are always with Earl, but he mustn't fold, that's how he keeps his army.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 13, 2018 8:42 am
  • toffee wrote:I will only lost respect for Earl if he folds which he won't as long as God's with him. As a loyal foot soldier of Earl army, we are always with Earl, but he mustn't fold, that's how he keeps his army.


    As long as Earl's being genuine about this, and not using his moral convictions as an excuse for being greedy like every other player gets when they're crying for a new contract?

    Then good for him. I disagree entirely, but if those are his convictions, then I commend any person for standing by their convictions.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:09 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    toffee wrote:I will only lost respect for Earl if he folds which he won't as long as God's with him. As a loyal foot soldier of Earl army, we are always with Earl, but he mustn't fold, that's how he keeps his army.


    As long as Earl's being genuine about this, and not using his moral convictions as an excuse for being greedy like every other player gets when they're crying for a new contract?

    Then good for him. I disagree entirely, but if those are his convictions, then I commend any person for standing by their convictions.


    Earl is supernatural, and often moved in mysterious ways, I have quitted trying to understand him. As a soldier of Earl's army, we are with Earl as long as he doesn't fold. If he folds, he will lost his army, and as Earl said, God will no longer be with him.

    Stand firm Earl, never fold.

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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:37 am
  • toffee wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    toffee wrote:I will only lost respect for Earl if he folds which he won't as long as God's with him. As a loyal foot soldier of Earl army, we are always with Earl, but he mustn't fold, that's how he keeps his army.


    As long as Earl's being genuine about this, and not using his moral convictions as an excuse for being greedy like every other player gets when they're crying for a new contract?

    Then good for him. I disagree entirely, but if those are his convictions, then I commend any person for standing by their convictions.


    Earl is supernatural, and often moved in mysterious ways, I have quitted trying to understand him. As a soldier of Earl's army.....


    A soldier of what? Not trying to be antagonizing here, but this is a bit right?
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 13, 2018 9:43 am
  • twisted_steel2 wrote:
    toffee wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    toffee wrote:I will only lost respect for Earl if he folds which he won't as long as God's with him. As a loyal foot soldier of Earl army, we are always with Earl, but he mustn't fold, that's how he keeps his army.


    As long as Earl's being genuine about this, and not using his moral convictions as an excuse for being greedy like every other player gets when they're crying for a new contract?

    Then good for him. I disagree entirely, but if those are his convictions, then I commend any person for standing by their convictions.


    Earl is supernatural, and often moved in mysterious ways, I have quitted trying to understand him. As a soldier of Earl's army.....


    A soldier of what? Not trying to be antagonizing here, but this is a bit right?
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    Yeah, my heebie jeebie cult spidey sense is tingling.

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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 13, 2018 2:14 pm
  • I think he's making fun of ET fans but I could be wrong. Pretty condescending if that's the case but whatever.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Mon Aug 13, 2018 11:19 pm
  • toffee wrote:
    Sgt. Largent wrote:
    toffee wrote:I will only lost respect for Earl if he folds which he won't as long as God's with him. As a loyal foot soldier of Earl army, we are always with Earl, but he mustn't fold, that's how he keeps his army.


    As long as Earl's being genuine about this, and not using his moral convictions as an excuse for being greedy like every other player gets when they're crying for a new contract?

    Then good for him. I disagree entirely, but if those are his convictions, then I commend any person for standing by their convictions.


    Earl is supernatural, and often moved in mysterious ways, I have quitted trying to understand him. As a soldier of Earl's army, we are with Earl as long as he doesn't fold. If he folds, he will lost his army, and as Earl said, God will no longer be with him.

    Stand firm Earl, never fold.


    Ya ok bro not sure of your serious with this stuff or not but it's entertaining I guess.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 14, 2018 12:13 am
  • jammerhawk wrote:
    Aros wrote:Yep. ET needs to get his ass into camp and show the world he still has it. Then after this season let the chips fall how they may.


    I don’t think he ever plays another down as a Seahawks player. His position is foolish, selfish, stupid, and his press releases are a comical tour de force. He has placed himself ahead of his team and doesn’t deserve to be renewed here. Pete won’t have him back and the team won’t give into him. He’s gonzo.

    I’d give a good bit of his money to K J Wright who showed up and is his usual dependable self.


    So what kind of draft pick are they going to get for him?

    He has to report eventually to accrue a season otherwise the Seahawks still own him next year.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Tue Aug 14, 2018 5:34 pm
  • I've seen this perspective posted on Seahawksdraftblog before, but what Earl fails to see is that trades don't magically happen because you want them to, and Seattle is not going to give away an All Pro safety for peanuts. The fact that no team has offered a fair trade for a player of his caliber and stature should be even more disrespectful to him than not getting an extension from Seattle. Yet he's pointing the finger directly at the Seahawks.

    I respect that he's looking out for himself and wants security, but he's seemingly completely blind to this aspect of what's really going on.
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Re: ET III ( in his own words)
Wed Aug 15, 2018 11:51 am
  • .....and the Seahawks have a mirror pointing directly back at ET. Maybe he should phone home.
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