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Kam salary cap question
Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:57 pm
  • So how much money do we save? In terms of him retiring and if he was still on the active roster. Also will the FO try and collect some if his $$ back?
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:21 pm
  • None, he is not retiring.
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:22 pm
  • Nothing, since he is not actually retiring. Just physically unable to play. He has injury guarantees in his contract and will ride that out for the next two years on IR. Terrible contract by John.

    Also just a weird situation, do they tell him he just doesn’t even have to be around? Or will he still come to vmac and games, unless he is coaching (which he has no obligation to do) he is just a distraction.
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:24 pm
  • All of his salary in 2018 is guaranteed and a little over half in 2019 is guaranteed. The team can't go after any of his signing bonus. At some point (probably next February) the Seahawks will release him just like they did with Cliff Avril.

    Expect him to spend 2018 on injured reserve.

    He does have $500,000 in game-day roster bonuses in 2018 that the team will save.

    Good for him and his agent to negotiate a contract extension last year that protected him from just this situation. I know it seems as fans we want all the money issues to just go away, but Kam deserved to be protected and I'm happy for him that he leaves his NFL career with his finances secured.
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:52 pm
  • Hey Hawk Finn, this is a little more than business as usual. I agree that the cap needs to be disccused but your dismissivness to a player that has served us well is disheartnening. Try not to be so calus businessman.
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:05 pm
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:35 pm
  • This is an interesting scenario. The team wanted to resign Kam a few years back but I'm sure was concerned about his age and health in giving a long term guaranteed $ type of deal. They also must have been concerned about rewarding him now for past contributions.

    This maybe a case of lesson learned for future deals.
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:35 pm
  • Hawks could release him or place him on the retirement list just to save a roster spot on the 90 man. No cap relief.
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:41 pm
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:46 pm
  • His agent did a great job for him, and the team is a man down for a year, for cap reasons.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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Re: Kam salary cap question
Sun Jul 01, 2018 10:00 pm
  • Kam didn't plan this and his agent did a great job, Kam earned it.

    If we're going to have a year that we have lower cap room this is it while we develop guys, I tend to think Kam will be involved somehow with the team as a secondary coach or something and they may hire him, he is so young and loves the game and is a great teacher from what I have read. Pete has a history of treating guys in his situation well, Kris Richard comes to mind. At least if they can't have his body they still get his mind.
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:46 am
  • chris98251 wrote:Kam didn't plan this and his agent did a great job, Kam earned it.

    If we're going to have a year that we have lower cap room this is it while we develop guys, I tend to think Kam will be involved somehow with the team as a secondary coach or something and they may hire him, he is so young and loves the game and is a great teacher from what I have read. Pete has a history of treating guys in his situation well, Kris Richard comes to mind. At least if they can't have his body they still get his mind.

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Re: Kam salary cap question
Mon Jul 02, 2018 11:58 am
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:12 pm
  • What does Paul Allen think about this? Is JS mismanaging his money.

    This isn't the first time the Hawks had to eat a players contract.

    Matt Flynn, Percy Harvin lasted, what a year, year and half, so they paid all the guaranteed $$$ before the contract expired. And the team decided not to ask Beastmode for his guaranteed $$$ back when he announced his retirement. Now, we have the BamBam injury guarantees.

    Man, glad JS isn't a financial advisor or money manager.....
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Mon Jul 02, 2018 8:03 pm
  • What are the rules like if he retires and we hire as a coach. Let him retire rben pay him 5 mil tp coach. Lol
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:56 am
  • truehawksfan wrote:What does Paul Allen think about this?


    I'd imagine he's concentrating more on the Seahawks being the most successful team in the NFC in the last 5 years.
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Tue Jul 03, 2018 9:46 am
  • Hawkstorian wrote:Good for him and his agent to negotiate a contract extension last year that protected him from just this situation. I know it seems as fans we want all the money issues to just go away, but Kam deserved to be protected and I'm happy for him that he leaves his NFL career with his finances secured.


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Re: Kam salary cap question
Tue Jul 03, 2018 12:03 pm
  • Anyone have details on the total cost?

    It's $14,300,000 for the signing bonus and fully guaranteed money, plus another $5.2 million from 2019 in injury guarantees, right? So $19.5 million total?

    That's a big pill to swallow.
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Re: Kam salary cap question
Thu Jul 05, 2018 6:54 pm
  • truehawksfan wrote:What does Paul Allen think about this? Is JS mismanaging his money.

    This isn't the first time the Hawks had to eat a players contract.

    Matt Flynn, Percy Harvin lasted, what a year, year and half, so they paid all the guaranteed $$$ before the contract expired. And the team decided not to ask Beastmode for his guaranteed $$$ back when he announced his retirement. Now, we have the BamBam injury guarantees.

    Man, glad JS isn't a financial advisor or money manager.....

    I would venture Mr Allen is involved in every major decision of the team.
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