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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:34 pm
  • I wonder if we're going to line him up as fullback ever? Penny ran out of the I formation most of the time, and San Diego State used their fullback quite a bit.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:36 pm
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    Fade wrote:You got me teetering. I just need that money shot. 3rd down against man coverage.

    With that being said I am willing to recant my "reach" statement.

    Simply put I do not remember Will Dissly being that fluid in terms of his route running, adjusting to the ball when it is in the air, and running after the catch. He is still raw in these areas, but he is far more advanced in these areas than I had originally recalled. I, along with many others, including the reports I have read have been sleeping on him.

    Fortunately the Seahawks weren't because they got a good prospect in the 4th round, and is worthy of that selection.

    I don't think he will ever be Zach Miller, but he will be close enough.


    I've always highly respected your opinions Fade, but when I was reading your previous comments I was saying to myself where is he getting this stuff from?! Hats off for coming around.

    Dissly will be 1B to to Dickson at 1A IMO.

    With that said, things could click with Vannett this season and he could fly up the depth chart, but I've yet to see anything to feel confident about that.


    Yeah, I was wrong on Dissly's skillset. Dissly is a real sleeper prospect that is the closest thing to Zach Miller this org has had.

    The key here is to always be open to new information, which I always am. Not to just to get locked in on an opinion and refuse to relinquish.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:38 pm
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Mon Apr 30, 2018 12:40 pm
  • Fade wrote:The key here is to always be open to new information, which I always am. Not to just to get locked in on an opinion and refuse to relinquish.


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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Mon Apr 30, 2018 3:26 pm
  • I think the difference between liking this pick or not depends on what your idea of what a TE is. Some people like Graham style some like Zach Miller type.

    I think you win more with a Miller type who will do the little things that win games and not care what their stat line is.

    Dissly is a tough kid willing to change positions and do what the staff asked to help the team,he was huge in the run game.If he makes it that will be his strength and reason why.

    Odds are, a 4th round pick will be a poor to marginal player.I think he will make it though
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Mon Apr 30, 2018 4:01 pm
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  • Dissly running a 4 flat short shuttle and a 7.07 three cone are kinda getting over looked... and when combined with all the other attributes people have talked about are positive indicators in determining the success he will have in the specific things he will be asked to do. I remember Bucky brooks talking to Vannett about his 4.8 forty and saying that getting open at TE is more of an art form with all the underneath zone they go against. I also remember Vannette's coach Urban Meyer talking about him during the draft. He corrected the panel when they were describing him... he said he is a made player but he is not the tradition Y tight end that will dig people out of there ... he is more of a move tight end that is a very good blocker. Perhaps part of Vannetts lack of winning everyone over last year is the fact that he was doing something he had learned to do as a move tight end but not exactly what he does best. So in this new landscape of very few traditional hand in the dirt Y tight ends ... John and Pete did a little more projecting. I remember this because after watching Jimmy Graham fall off of block after block I really wanted the hawks to draft a great blocking tight end. Then when I heard Urban Meyer correct the panel when they said he was one of the few Y tight ends in this draft... I think I tried to pretend he didn't say it ... he said he has become a very good blocker but he is not the traditional dig you out of there tight end. What I am saying is maybe Will Dissly is the traditional blocking tight end we all have been wanting for a long time. Maybe Vannette has gotten a lot better over the summer and we will have two tight end sets will very sound run blocking and very quick not fast pass catchers with great hands.... man I hope that is what we have now.
    Also that fullback from Michigan ... if it turns out he can actually find the right running lane and become a great lead blocker ... you could do two tight end sets with that monster as a 275lb fullback with great hands and throw a play action pass after you have been running down hill at them all day. I like that idea a lot ... but I am getting ahead of myself.
    I just wrote all of this to say that Vannett was not a dig you out of there Y tight end according to his coach ... maybe he becomes that... I am happy that nobody is saying that about Dissly.
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  • JPC4Days wrote:Dissly running a 4 flat short shuttle and a 7.07 three cone are kinda getting over looked... and when combined with all the other attributes people have talked about are positive indicators in determining the success he will have in the specific things he will be asked to do. I remember Bucky brooks talking to Vannett about his 4.8 forty and saying that getting open at TE is more of an art form with all the underneath zone they go against. I also remember Vannette's coach Urban Meyer talking about him during the draft. He corrected the panel when they were describing him... he said he is a made player but he is not the tradition Y tight end that will dig people out of there ... he is more of a move tight end that is a very good blocker. Perhaps part of Vannetts lack of winning everyone over last year is the fact that he was doing something he had learned to do as a move tight end but not exactly what he does best. So in this new landscape of very few traditional hand in the dirt Y tight ends ... John and Pete did a little more projecting. I remember this because after watching Jimmy Graham fall off of block after block I really wanted the hawks to draft a great blocking tight end. Then when I heard Urban Meyer correct the panel when they said he was one of the few Y tight ends in this draft... I think I tried to pretend he didn't say it ... he said he has become a very good blocker but he is not the traditional dig you out of there tight end. What I am saying is maybe Will Dissly is the traditional blocking tight end we all have been wanting for a long time. Maybe Vannette has gotten a lot better over the summer and we will have two tight end sets will very sound run blocking and very quick not fast pass catchers with great hands.... man I hope that is what we have now.
    Also that fullback from Michigan ... if it turns out he can actually find the right running lane and become a great lead blocker ... you could do two tight end sets with that monster as a 275lb fullback with great hands and throw a play action pass after you have been running down hill at them all day. I like that idea a lot ... but I am getting ahead of myself.
    I just wrote all of this to say that Vannett was not a dig you out of there Y tight end according to his coach ... maybe he becomes that... I am happy that nobody is saying that about Dissly.


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    Awesome first post (though people will complain about the lack of spacing).

    Graham had a 6.9 3-cone. Miller was 7.01. Not far off from Dissly's 7.07.
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  • hawknation2018 wrote:
    JPC4Days wrote:Dissly running a 4 flat short shuttle and a 7.07 three cone are kinda getting over looked... and when combined with all the other attributes people have talked about are positive indicators in determining the success he will have in the specific things he will be asked to do. I remember Bucky brooks talking to Vannett about his 4.8 forty and saying that getting open at TE is more of an art form with all the underneath zone they go against. I also remember Vannette's coach Urban Meyer talking about him during the draft. He corrected the panel when they were describing him... he said he is a made player but he is not the tradition Y tight end that will dig people out of there ... he is more of a move tight end that is a very good blocker. Perhaps part of Vannetts lack of winning everyone over last year is the fact that he was doing something he had learned to do as a move tight end but not exactly what he does best. So in this new landscape of very few traditional hand in the dirt Y tight ends ... John and Pete did a little more projecting. I remember this because after watching Jimmy Graham fall off of block after block I really wanted the hawks to draft a great blocking tight end. Then when I heard Urban Meyer correct the panel when they said he was one of the few Y tight ends in this draft... I think I tried to pretend he didn't say it ... he said he has become a very good blocker but he is not the traditional dig you out of there tight end. What I am saying is maybe Will Dissly is the traditional blocking tight end we all have been wanting for a long time. Maybe Vannette has gotten a lot better over the summer and we will have two tight end sets will very sound run blocking and very quick not fast pass catchers with great hands.... man I hope that is what we have now.
    Also that fullback from Michigan ... if it turns out he can actually find the right running lane and become a great lead blocker ... you could do two tight end sets with that monster as a 275lb fullback with great hands and throw a play action pass after you have been running down hill at them all day. I like that idea a lot ... but I am getting ahead of myself.
    I just wrote all of this to say that Vannett was not a dig you out of there Y tight end according to his coach ... maybe he becomes that... I am happy that nobody is saying that about Dissly.


    :greetingsearthling:

    Awesome first post (though people will complain about the lack of spacing).

    Graham had a 6.9 3-cone. Miller was 7.01. Not far off from Dissly's 7.07.


    Cool thank you, I was an old poster from back in the day when we were having wars over Alexander getting paid over

    Steve Hutchinson, he is just an guard. People calling Lofa Tutupu a hobit and RW too short... I was Sliv and 80einstein45
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    I will remember the spacing. I found the youtube video of what I was talking about.

    I think we have a point of attack te now... I remember being bummed out to here that about Nick and glad to not hear that about Will.
    I watched him as a dog and was hoping he would be an udfa pick up for the Hawks ... and really don't care that he was fourth round.

    I just hope he is the Dude at TE we all want him to be and have been hoping the Hawks pick up... as long as he doesn't get struck by lighting or hit by an asteroid ... there maybe a chance.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 12:22 am
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    hawknation2018 wrote:The beautiful things you can do with a TE, who is also a physical blocker.

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    Those are some pretty nice gifs you have there. :mrgreen:


    Dissly stuffs his passrusher, then passes him off to another blocker, then releases out for the pass... heady play, beautiful to watch. All set up by being an overpowering blocker.

    Loving this pick!
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  • JPC4Days wrote:
    hawknation2018 wrote:
    JPC4Days wrote:Dissly running a 4 flat short shuttle and a 7.07 three cone are kinda getting over looked... and when combined with all the other attributes people have talked about are positive indicators in determining the success he will have in the specific things he will be asked to do. I remember Bucky brooks talking to Vannett about his 4.8 forty and saying that getting open at TE is more of an art form with all the underneath zone they go against. I also remember Vannette's coach Urban Meyer talking about him during the draft. He corrected the panel when they were describing him... he said he is a made player but he is not the tradition Y tight end that will dig people out of there ... he is more of a move tight end that is a very good blocker. Perhaps part of Vannetts lack of winning everyone over last year is the fact that he was doing something he had learned to do as a move tight end but not exactly what he does best. So in this new landscape of very few traditional hand in the dirt Y tight ends ... John and Pete did a little more projecting. I remember this because after watching Jimmy Graham fall off of block after block I really wanted the hawks to draft a great blocking tight end. Then when I heard Urban Meyer correct the panel when they said he was one of the few Y tight ends in this draft... I think I tried to pretend he didn't say it ... he said he has become a very good blocker but he is not the traditional dig you out of there tight end. What I am saying is maybe Will Dissly is the traditional blocking tight end we all have been wanting for a long time. Maybe Vannette has gotten a lot better over the summer and we will have two tight end sets will very sound run blocking and very quick not fast pass catchers with great hands.... man I hope that is what we have now.
    Also that fullback from Michigan ... if it turns out he can actually find the right running lane and become a great lead blocker ... you could do two tight end sets with that monster as a 275lb fullback with great hands and throw a play action pass after you have been running down hill at them all day. I like that idea a lot ... but I am getting ahead of myself.
    I just wrote all of this to say that Vannett was not a dig you out of there Y tight end according to his coach ... maybe he becomes that... I am happy that nobody is saying that about Dissly.


    :greetingsearthling:

    Awesome first post (though people will complain about the lack of spacing).

    Graham had a 6.9 3-cone. Miller was 7.01. Not far off from Dissly's 7.07.


    Cool thank you, I was an old poster from back in the day when we were having wars over Alexander getting paid over

    Steve Hutchinson, he is just an guard. People calling Lofa Tutupu a hobit and RW too short... I was Sliv and 80einstein45
    back then...
    I will remember the spacing. I found the youtube video of what I was talking about.

    I think we have a point of attack te now... I remember being bummed out to here that about Nick and glad to not hear that about Will.
    I watched him as a dog and was hoping he would be an udfa pick up for the Hawks ... and really don't care that he was fourth round.

    I just hope he is the Dude at TE we all want him to be and have been hoping the Hawks pick up... as long as he doesn't get struck by lighting or hit by an asteroid ... there maybe a chance.


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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 12:37 am
  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:Would you like to know why teams like Philadelphia and Tennessee were so adept at running the ball on us last year?

    It's because they have good blocking tight ends. Guys who can get off the line, land their blocks, and maintain them on the perimeter. It's not just about your five main guys, and never was. "Blocking TE" is a position on the rise in the NFL and I don't blame Pete and John one bit for thinking Dissly might not have lasted to the 7th.

    Great pick.


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    None other than Mike Tice, of the "Fill Your Belly Deli" fame, was the *prototype* Seahawks OUTSIDE TACKLE.

    Welcome, Will Dissley, pick #120, the Seattle Seahawks "OUTSIDE TACKLE" of the future!
    Pete, if in doubt on how to use Dissley, just ask yourself, "WWCD?" What Would Chuck Do?

    P.S. Rumor was the rules changed a few decades back to where they could legally throw passes to those Outside Tackles. I sure hope Pete doesn't get caught up in all this newfangled BS and sticks to the bread-and-butter role of the Outside Tackle position.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 12:38 am
  • If the OL still struggles next season, I'd expect Dissly to be one of the biggest beneficiaries of it.

    He will be assigned to block, but as and when the play breaks down expect him to release and pick up a first down, he will do this time and time again next season I bet.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 2:00 am
  • Nice video on Dissly's blocking:

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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 2:10 am
  • So many awesome blocks . . .

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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 2:24 am
  • hawknation2018 wrote:Nice video on Dissly's blocking:



    I really think this guy is going to have a huge impact on our run game and can't wait for football season to start
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 5:02 am
  • hawknation2018 wrote:Nice video on Dissly's blocking:


    Is there a vid like this with Vannett out there?

    Dissly looks determined.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 5:57 am
  • hawknation2018 wrote:
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    hawknation2018 wrote:Nice video on Dissly's blocking:


    Is there a vid like this with Vannett out there?

    Dissly looks determined.


    Not a compilation that I can find. There is the usual game tape: http://archive.draftbreakdown.com/players/nick-vannett/



    Is he considered a better blocker than Vannett coming out of the draft?
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 10:27 am
  • So I'm going to double down on the Zach Miller comp. He may actually remind me more of Mark Bavaro, specifically the blocking and breaking tackles. Very powerful player with surprisingly good center of gravity, which gives him the ability to break said tackles and drag people while also lending natural leverage..

    I'm also kind of laughing at that comp due to how many are going to have to google Mark Bavaro.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 10:52 am
  • Bavaro was a baller. If Dissly is anything remotely close, we are in good hands. I just can tell you that he pancakes guys on blocks with regularity.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 2:52 pm
  • Bavaro was drafted way too high. NY could've got him in the 6th or 7th...
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 3:15 pm
  • massari wrote:
    hawknation2018 wrote:
    massari wrote:
    hawknation2018 wrote:Nice video on Dissly's blocking:


    Is there a vid like this with Vannett out there?

    Dissly looks determined.


    Not a compilation that I can find. There is the usual game tape: http://archive.draftbreakdown.com/players/nick-vannett/



    Is he considered a better blocker than Vannett coming out of the draft?


    I definitely do.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Tue May 01, 2018 3:26 pm
  • olyfan63 wrote:
    Fade wrote:
    hawknation2018 wrote:The beautiful things you can do with a TE, who is also a physical blocker.

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    Those are some pretty nice gifs you have there. :mrgreen:


    Dissly stuffs his passrusher, then passes him off to another blocker, then releases out for the pass... heady play, beautiful to watch. All set up by being an overpowering blocker.

    Loving this pick!


    That play was a thing of beauty. Unfortunately, now he'll be passing that guy off to Ifedi who won't even briefly impede the rusher like the dude in the gif.
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Tue May 01, 2018 3:55 pm
  • Question asked to his TE Coach Jordan Paopao---What is he best equipped to do day one in the NFL?

    At the end of the day 4th and 1 running in the ball behind him... it's what he is best equipped to do it is what he takes pleasure in.. unbelievably physical player.. takes pleasure in doing the things other guys may or may not want to do and doing whatever it takes to win. His physicality jumps out as an extension of the offensive line.

    Two years at defensive line helped his perspective on how they thought about blocking him.. just scratching the surface on his receiving potential... lined up out wide in high school ...most teams wanted him as a tight end. Big time clutch catches... great catching radius.. big body and surprisingly fast and fluid quite honestly.

    it surprised the coaches ...he was as good as he was getting down the field ...but being split out as a receiver in high school probably helped him.


    That is basically what his college position coach said about him on KJR... for those of you who didn't listen or read about it... I did my best to capture the main points.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Wed May 02, 2018 9:21 am
  • vin.couve12 wrote:So I'm going to double down on the Zach Miller comp. He may actually remind me more of Mark Bavaro, specifically the blocking and breaking tackles. Very powerful player with surprisingly good center of gravity, which gives him the ability to break said tackles and drag people while also lending natural leverage..

    I'm also kind of laughing at that comp due to how many are going to have to google Mark Bavaro.


    What I thought as well and stated in this or another thread there have been so many lately, He is Physical and Nasty like Bavaro, when he has the ball he delivers punsishment and is so big DB's are afraid to take him head on. His catch skills are way under rated, he has a good feel for space and how to get off the line, he isn't going to run 40 yards to the end zone on plays regularly, but we only need the 10 to 15 for him to be more then a average value on our team. Those are first downs and he is big enough to also be a good target in the redzone, Just don't ask him to dunk and place the ball in his catch window.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Wed May 02, 2018 10:12 am
  • Seanhawk wrote:
    olyfan63 wrote:
    Fade wrote:
    hawknation2018 wrote:The beautiful things you can do with a TE, who is also a physical blocker.

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    Those are some pretty nice gifs you have there. :mrgreen:


    Dissly stuffs his passrusher, then passes him off to another blocker, then releases out for the pass... heady play, beautiful to watch. All set up by being an overpowering blocker.

    Loving this pick!


    That play was a thing of beauty. Unfortunately, now he'll be passing that guy off to Ifedi who won't even briefly impede the rusher like the dude in the gif.


    Yeah, that connection required three full seconds of protection. I doubt it was the play's first intention, or even its third.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Wed May 02, 2018 12:09 pm
  • I don't know, Montana. If you watch the QB looking left, it moves the entire defensive backfield to cover that side, opening the right for Dissly.

    If it was a purposeful first read, it was well executed and even better blocked. If it was a 3rd read, kudos to the O-Coordinator for installing the timing on that outlet, and to the QB for going through his reads well.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Wed May 02, 2018 3:54 pm
  • Will Dissly is a future NFL star. You heard it from Fender first...
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Wed May 02, 2018 5:37 pm
  • Watching Husky clips, I gotta think Gaskin must have loved him some Dissly.

    Guessing now he's gonna miss him some Dissly.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Sun May 06, 2018 6:15 am
  • If Dissly becomes a star and a go to receiving threat, can we refer to his potential dominance in space as Russell going to Dissly...land?
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
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  • oldhawkfan wrote:If Dissly becomes a star and a go to receiving threat, can we refer to his potential dominance in space as Russell going to Dissly...land?


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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
Sun May 06, 2018 9:41 am
  • Great to have a Northwest guy get to stay around home and the mountains. That's a win-win, especially if he's a solid contributor to the team.
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Re: Pick #120 TE Will Dissly
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    jlwaters1 wrote:
    rjdriver wrote:I’m honestly asking...

    How is his game different than Nick Vannett’s? Wasn’t Vannett more known as a blocking TE out of OSU? It will be interesting to see the offensive role our TE’s play this year with the change in personnel.
    To play devils advocate.. JS and PC said the exact same things about Vannett.. This year is a big one for him.. But it doesn't hurt to have your 3 TE's all be good blockers.. This guy adds to the competition. I like the pick.

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    Dissly is a lot more physical than Vannett. Vannett plays like a big receiver and does a nice job screening off defenders at times. Dissly is a human bulldozer, who can also run routes and catch the ball.

    That is what I noticed..The guy just does not go down,it is a fight to get him there.

    Was just going to say this. The guys yards after contact HAS to be up there.
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