Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:25 pm
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Seems like a good signing even if it's only depth. One of the reasons why the Seahawks went to back to back Superbowls was because of their depth. They lost that the past couple of years. It's time they get back to adding depth to the team.
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Fri Mar 23, 2018 4:52 pm
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Looks like the Seahawks are following Philly's D-Line philosophy. Sign young/veteran DL players and rotate them. It's how Philly won the SB.
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:36 pm
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Mizak wrote:Looks like the Seahawks are following Philly's D-Line philosophy. Sign young/veteran DL players and rotate them. It's how Philly won the SB.
You mean like the Seahawks rotation during their 2013 Super Bowl run?
Player Team Position Total Snaps
72-M.Bennett SEA DL 643
91-C.Clemons SEA DL 606
99-T.McDaniel SEA DL 562
92-B.Mebane SEA DL 558
56-C.Avril SEA DL 556
69-C.McDonald SEA DL 553
79-R.Bryant SEA DL 525
93-O.Schofield SEA DL 298
97-J.Hill SEA DL 63
94-D.Smith SEA DL 46
95-B.Mayowa SEA DL 24
70-M.Brooks SEA DL 16- Jville
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Fri Mar 23, 2018 5:40 pm
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Jville is correct, Pete has been bolstering the defensive line rotation with veterans since the moment he was hired. I think it would be fair to consider it the strategy that most teams execute, and it certainly isn't anything the Eagles came up with.
Veteran Defensive linemen added
2010: DE Chris Clemons, DE Raheem Brock, DT Kentwan Balmer, DT Junior Siavii
2011: DE Tony Hargrove, DE Jimmy Wilkerson, DT Alan Branch, DT Clinton McDonald
2012: DT Jason Jones
2013: DE Cliff Avril, DE Michael Bennett, DT Tony McDaniel
2014: DT Kevin Williams, DT Demarcus Dobbs
2015: DT Ahtyba Rubin, DT AJ Francis
2016: DE Damontre Moore, DT Sealver Siliga
2017: DE Dwight Freeney, DE Dion Jordan, DE Marcus Smith, DE Branden Jackson, DT Rodney Coe
The majority of our DLine rotation throughout Pete's tenure has been veterans picked up from other teams. 2018 is as young as we've ever been with our own homegrown talent in Frank Clark, Jarran Reed, Naz Jones, Quinton Jefferson, and Garrison Smith (2016 UDFA).-
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Fri Mar 23, 2018 8:08 pm
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Should be a good backup to Naz at 3 tech. Might be able to recapture something while playing less snaps as a pass rusher.
I also think that Trenton Thompson from Georgia has some untapped potential and that Hand from Alabama has some pretty good measurables, including arm length and some other things. These guys are generally rated under the first tier, but I also think that first tier is really, really concentrated at the top. Vea is a freak and there's a big drop off from him to Payne, IMO, and then from Payne to others. Bryan might be the best athlete out there on paper, but he's also robotic in his movements. If he were more fluid he'd probably be up there with Vea. Hurst is a tweener. Not a full time starter at 3 tech. Could be a player that might have potential to take over Jordan at 5 tech though and can gap down on 3rd downs as an inside rusher. Not unlike Bennett in some ways, just without the length. I also have this odd opinion that James Looney reminds me of Rocky Bernard and he's probably a 7th rounder. Short arms though. I'd probably take a 6th on him and see what he can do concentrated as an inside pass rusher right off the bat. You probably want to do that sole thing with him at first because he doesn't even tip at 290. He's under.. He could also play some 5T.-
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Sat Mar 24, 2018 1:42 am
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as long as russell wilson is on the field, this team will always have a chance. this is a great signing to shore up the d-line.
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Sat Mar 24, 2018 11:53 am
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Johnson looks like a strong interior rusher that just doesn't quit. Plays balls to the wall at all times. I really like him as a backup.
Also watched some vs vids of Taven Bryan and I'm not so sure he's not worth a 2nd round pick when we trade down. There are some questions, but he has the ability to really dominate any OL and I don't think that changes in the NFL. He also lines up all over. You could pencil him in over Naz at some point in the season once he gets his responsibilities down. What I read about him isn't quite what I'm seeing and that dude is dangerous. He's got huge potential at 3 tech and can otherwise play pretty much all along the DL at every spot.
Hand doesn't seem to play to his measurables. Seems to jog a lot and is slow to read and I think those two things are correlated. Awesome athlete on combine papaer, but something seems like it's missing. Maybe 4th round? Maybe later. I'm thinking that Trenton Thompson would be a player I like more. Thompson is a little top heavy, but he plays harder and more sure of himself than Hand, it seems like, and so it looks like he plays faster even though he doesn't run as fast. Thompson has some Red Bryant to him and I think some teams are going to see that. He can play 3 tech probably better than Red though.
Bryan in the 2nd.
Trenton Thompson maybe in the 4th or 5th or possibly Hand if he's gone. Hand will need work though.
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Sat Mar 24, 2018 12:02 pm
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Sat Mar 24, 2018 3:47 pm
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Played in 67.6% of the snaps on D in 2017. Their DT with the most snaps, even more than Linvell Joseph.
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Sat Mar 24, 2018 10:58 pm
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Wenhawk wrote:Played in 67.6% of the snaps on D in 2017. Their DT with the most snaps, even more than Linvell Joseph.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/ ... counts.htm
That's bigtime, given their overall defense. Good lookin out on that stat. I like the idea of him having more energy in a pass rush role backing up Naz. Seems like a really good fit.-
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:52 am
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Gibbo wrote:Very happy with this.
Shrewd business.
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Sun Mar 25, 2018 6:58 am
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+1 on Bryan
Also watched some vs vids of Taven Bryan and I'm not so sure he's not worth a 2nd round pick when we trade down. There are some questions, but he has the ability to really dominate any OL and I don't think that changes in the NFL. He also lines up all over. You could pencil him in over Naz at some point in the season once he gets his responsibilities down. What I read about him isn't quite what I'm seeing and that dude is dangerous. He's got huge potential at 3 tech and can otherwise play pretty much all along the DL at every spot.
Hand doesn't seem to play to his measurables. Seems to jog a lot and is slow to read and I think those two things are correlated. Awesome athlete on combine papaer, but something seems like it's missing. Maybe 4th round? Maybe later. I'm thinking that Trenton Thompson would be a player I like more. Thompson is a little top heavy, but he plays harder and more sure of himself than Hand, it seems like, and so it looks like he plays faster even though he doesn't run as fast. Thompson has some Red Bryant to him and I think some teams are going to see that. He can play 3 tech probably better than Red though.
Bryan in the 2nd.
Trenton Thompson maybe in the 4th or 5th or possibly Hand if he's gone. Hand will need work though.
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Sun Mar 25, 2018 7:17 am
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hgwellz12 wrote:Gibbo wrote:Very happy with this.
Shrewd business.
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:45 am
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More and more depth at a nice price. Good stuff.R.I.P. THE EDGAR, YOU WILL BE MISSED......
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Sat Mar 31, 2018 10:51 am
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It sounds like they view Johnson as more of a pass rush specialist, not a 3T in the base defense. He actually looks smaller than he was in college, which probably helps him be more explosive. I wonder if Johnson could play outside in the base defense, i.e. some 5T, etc.
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Sat Mar 31, 2018 12:25 pm
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Wed Jun 06, 2018 9:36 pm
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“In an attack defense, I think a 3-technique is one of the guys that can be real aggressive,” Johnson said. “You want your (nose guard) to be patient and use his hands, but as a 3-technique guy you want a guy that can get off the ball and play the run with an attack mentality but also can pass rush when you need him. To be aggressive on the second downs, to be able to put pressure on the quarterback. I can see where there would be adjustment from a two-gap to an attack defense. But coach Norton, man, he gives me the freedom to be able to go out and be aggressive and be athletic whenever I need to. So I think that this was a better situation for me.”
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Re: Seahawks Sign DT (formerly of the Vikings) Tom Johnson
Fri Jun 08, 2018 1:29 am
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Johnson was signed in March as a free agent after spending the last four years with the Vikings and the team has indicated it views him as a likely starter there with second-year player Nazair Jones rotating in and also playing quite a bit, but for now appearing to favor the veteran Johnson as the starter. Shamar Stephen, another former Viking also signed as a free agent in March, projects as Reed’s backup and a rotational player.
https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/sea ... -and-more/
This is interesting news. I had heard before that they viewed Johnson as more of a nickel rotational player, being too light to start at the 3T in the base defense. When discussing the two immediately after their signing, I thought Carroll said something about Stephen being the potential starter at 3T in base and Johnson playing as a pass rusher in the nickel. I'll need to check on that at some point. Johnson would seem to have the versatility to play some 5T, but I haven't seen much about that possibility.
Johnson obviously thinks he should start:
Edit - Here were Carroll's initial comments on the Johnson/Stephen signings at the NFL annual meetings:Both guys played a lot, showed a lot of diversity in the running game as well as in the rush game. Tom Johnson is more of a rusher than Shamar (Stephen). Shamar is a big dude, very similar to the guys we’ve had over the years. If you look at all the three techniques we have had through the years Shamar is a guy that really fits that role, and we’ll give Naz Jones a chance to be in the rotation and all that.
https://www.seahawks.com/news/6-things- ... gue-206181
Stephen missed OTAs with a meniscus injury, which may have changed the calculations a tad, at least for now.
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