Anyone have a good handle on how comp picks are allocated? I know the exact formula is a secret, but usually they can be predicted to a degree.

Say we lose Graham, Richardson, and Richardson

and we sign McDougald, Maxwell, and ASJ

how would that work out for comp picks?

A-Dog wrote:Anyone have a good handle on how comp picks are allocated? I know the exact formula is a secret, but usually they can be predicted to a degree.

Say we lose Graham, Richardson, and Richardson

and we sign McDougald, Maxwell, and ASJ

how would that work out for comp picks?

Signing your own players back doesn't count at all against comp picks. It's only if you sign free agents. Players that were cut also do not effect compensatory picks.

So hypothetically in your scenario lets say Graham, Richardson, and Richardson all sign for about that 8-9m range. Lets also say that puts them all as 4th round compensatory picks. In your scenario where we signed McDougald, Maxwell, and ASJ only ASJ would count and his signing would cause Seattle to lose 1 of those 4th round comp picks.

DJrmb wrote:

A-Dog wrote:Anyone have a good handle on how comp picks are allocated? I know the exact formula is a secret, but usually they can be predicted to a degree.

Say we lose Graham, Richardson, and Richardson

and we sign McDougald, Maxwell, and ASJ

how would that work out for comp picks?

Signing your own players back doesn't count at all against comp picks. It's only if you sign free agents. Players that were cut also do not effect compensatory picks.

So hypothetically in your scenario lets say Graham, Richardson, and Richardson all sign for about that 8-9m range. Lets also say that puts them all as 4th round compensatory picks. In your scenario where we signed McDougald, Maxwell, and ASJ only ASJ would count and his signing would cause Seattle to lose 1 of those 4th round comp picks.

Are you sure that McDougald and Maxwell wouldn't count?

Those guys are UFAs who weren't guys that got released

A-Dog wrote:

DJrmb wrote:

A-Dog wrote:Anyone have a good handle on how comp picks are allocated? I know the exact formula is a secret, but usually they can be predicted to a degree.

Say we lose Graham, Richardson, and Richardson

and we sign McDougald, Maxwell, and ASJ

how would that work out for comp picks?

Signing your own players back doesn't count at all against comp picks. It's only if you sign free agents. Players that were cut also do not effect compensatory picks.

So hypothetically in your scenario lets say Graham, Richardson, and Richardson all sign for about that 8-9m range. Lets also say that puts them all as 4th round compensatory picks. In your scenario where we signed McDougald, Maxwell, and ASJ only ASJ would count and his signing would cause Seattle to lose 1 of those 4th round comp picks.

Are you sure that McDougald and Maxwell wouldn't count?

Those guys are UFAs who weren't guys that got released

Yes, I'm sure. You don't get penalized for signing your own players back.

With JG going to GB no way we outbid NO for ASJ. Plus reports now are that the Jets are pushing hard to keep him. You think our Offense was bad last year. Stay tuned

Found this, it's super useful:

https://overthecap.com/compensatory-draft-picks-cancellation-chart/

Do you have to sign a player to a 2 year deal for them to be comp eligible? Or can u sign a guy to a 1 year deal for say 10 mill then if they sign elsewhere the next season would you get a comp pick?

Also is it the total value or the annual that determines the rank of the comp pick?

Were not gonna get a good comp pick this year.

Deffinetly won't get a 3rd round comp pick but as for Paul Richardson it's probably a high 6th round pick right now.

Let’s say we sign Suh and Nelson and lose Sheldon Richardson, Paul Richardson and Graham isn’t that likely we’d get 3 comp picks? Depending on the contracts likely 2 - 4th rounders and a 5th/6th

Kinger95 wrote:Let’s say we sign Suh and Nelson and lose Sheldon Richardson, Paul Richardson and Graham isn’t that likely we’d get 3 comp picks? Depending on the contracts likely 2 - 4th rounders and a 5th/6th

If Graham was making 10mill and Sheldon was making 9-10 mill, then I would say 5th 5th 6th.

Kinger95 wrote:Do you have to sign a player to a 2 year deal for them to be comp eligible? Or can u sign a guy to a 1 year deal for say 10 mill then if they sign elsewhere the next season would you get a comp pick?

Also is it the total value or the annual that determines the rank of the comp pick?

No, one year contracts are eligible for comp picks.

It's based on a number of things, average salary per year, snap counts etc etc.

As things stand now, I'm expecting a 4th for Graham, a 5th for Paul Richardson and Sheldon obviously is wide open right now. If he doesn't resign I'd expect either a 4th or a 5th, though. I also believe teams can get a maximum of 4 comp picks in total.

Resigning players previously on your roster the year before also don't count towards comp picks. Nor do cut players, as another poster has previously stated.

OTC has us with two 4th rounders currently, and we could score a third 4th rounder if someone signs another one of our players.

Rams and Pats both currently with two 3rd rounders.

A-Dog wrote:OTC has us with two 4th rounders currently, and we could score a third 4th rounder if someone signs another one of our players.

Rams and Pats both currently with two 3rd rounders.

Good news! Would you provide the link? Thanks for the info.

Same link I posted above

but it's changed again with the Brown signing... down to one 4th round comp pick until some of our other FAs get signed

A-Dog wrote:Same link I posted above

but it's changed again with the Brown signing... down to one 4th round comp pick until some of our other FAs get signed

Ah, didn't see that at first. Thanks!

https://overthecap.com/compensatory-dra ... ion-chart/

Feels weird that Rams have loaded up with some nice deals and are lookin at 4!!!! Comp picks

I get why just seems like they handled it really nicely his offseason

So far these count towards and against comp picks -

In -

Jeron Brown
Barkevious Mingo
Ed Dickson

Out -

Jimmy Graham
Paul Richardson
Sheldon Richardson
Matt Tobin

Seattle still has these free agents that would count -

Luke Joeckel
Eddie Lacy
Luke Willson
Michael Wilhoite
Blair Walsh
Marcus Smith
Oday Aboushi
Terence Garvin
Austin Davis
Byron Maxwell
Dewey McDonald
Mike Davis
Josh Forrest
Paul Dawson
Garrison Smith
Thomas Rawls
Tyrus Thompson
Christian French
Jordan Simone

Fair to assume we will end up with 3 comp picks as an absolute minimum, with 4 being very likely.

I bet no more than 2

I agree that the comp picks are not looking great this year. Of that list of eligible free agents it seems to be mostly guys that nobody wants (Walsh, Lacy, Rawls, Joeckel) or guys Seattle will try to retain (Marcus Smith, Maxwell, Mike Davis). Not really seeing anybody who will obviously move on that will net another comp pick, except for Luke Willson.

^ doesn’t negate the fact that everyone judging the Sheldon R. Trade from the perspective of a late 2nd for a late 3rd are now left to face that we gave up a 2nd round pick for Sheldon for one year....

I think the seahawks have officially lost their minds. They have given up 3 4th round picks to basically pickup replacement depth. This is an example of how you don't build for the future. I am so disappointed in their moves this off season.

I doubt they care

SoulfishHawk wrote:I doubt they care

Yeah when you traded away picks and are trying to rebuild why should you care about getting comp picks anyways? It's not like the patriots or Rams are getting any.

edogg23 wrote:

SoulfishHawk wrote:I doubt they care

Yeah when you traded away picks and are trying to rebuild why should you care about getting comp picks anyways? It's not like the patriots or Rams are getting any.

Our 2nd rd pick wan't just simply traded away, we got our starting LT. That is a big deal!

I'm saying they don't care if YOU are disappointed. It's March 28th, plenty of things will happen before training camp.

edogg23 wrote:I think the seahawks have officially lost their minds. They have given up 3 4th round picks to basically pickup replacement depth. This is an example of how you don't build for the future. I am so disappointed in their moves this off season.

I doubt they lost their minds. It tells me that the FO either does not consider the signings to be mere “replacement depth” or perhaps they just don’t place much value in those future picks in the 130s. I do understand the disappointment because the long term talent level would probably be higher if they committed to guys like Darboh and Vannett and took the comp picks. On the other hand, that is often what we see bad teams do and I don’t want the Seahawks to be a bad team with one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

4th rounders to guys that can contribute and have proven ability or 4th round draft picks we whiff on and have done historically.

I think that's the difference.

All of these guys can be cut by week 9 and not count against the formula. Lots of overreaction here.

Besides, if you have the choice of a proven vet who can come in and perform or a 4th round comp pick, you almost always take the proven guy. Always.