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Are We Still In The Golden Years?

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Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:03 pm
  • Or does the loss of Sherman, Bennett and most likely Kam, Cliff and potentially Earl signify the Golden Years are now officially behind us? Please explain your answer in this thread.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:04 pm
  • No we still have the most important piece, and elite franchise QB. The Seahawks will at least be a 9 win team every year with him.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:05 pm
  • No. Its going to be awhile before we rise up again in my opinion. I don't think it will be with Carroll either.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:11 pm
  • pittpnthrs wrote:No. Its going to be awhile before we rise up again in my opinion. I don't think it will be with Carroll either.


    Spot on. Wish we released Carroll today and kept Sherm.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:15 pm
  • Its done. It was fun tho.
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Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:17 pm
  • We aren’t in the golden years of this era anymore, obviously. It all started when Marshawn got injured and left the team. That is when we started to notice the downfall of this team.

    However, this team can get back to dominance and it all starts with the front office. Hopefully PC and JS can make the right decisions to get us back on top. It sucks losing Sherm but the front office knows something that we don’t and I expect them to make the right decisions for this team to make us competitive as we were years ago.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:23 pm
  • Wow. It is ok to be down about the recent changes but let's be excited for the future. We make the playoffs this year we are right back on track and avoided a complete implosion. So yes we are still in Golden Times. We still have great players and our FO seems to be getting down to business again.

    Still a great time to be a Seahawk fan.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:45 pm
  • The golden years with Pete ended on the play IMO, not today.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:57 pm
  • I voted yes but not until I did a little research first. My initial thoughts were that the Golden Years were over. Since 1999, Mike Holmgrens first season, this team has had 13 winning seasons against only 6 losing seasons. The 23 seasons prior to 1999 produced only 8 winning seasons. The difference between those two periods of Seahawks history is the ownership of Paul Allen. When Mr. Allen bought this team, one of his main goals was to field a perennial winner. For the most part of the past 19 seasons this team has experienced unparalleled success. In the last 13 seasons we have seen this team in 3 Super Bowls. The average length of an NFL career is less than 5 years. The ownership remains the same, we still have the GM and coach who built this team and brought them to the pinnacle of success. We have a franchise QB, all world MLB, and a few other solid pieces.
    Currently this version of the Seahawks can’t be considered a challenger for next year but should be competitive. PC/JS built a winner once. This time they are further along in the process with proven pieces still in place. Are we still in the Golden Years? Absolutely. Just need a little time to reload. Keep the faith 12’s!!!
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 4:59 pm
  • If we had not made some significant coaching changes, I'd say the answer is no. However, I think Pete finally realized that player personnel was only part of the problem when it came to our ability to make deep playoff runs the last few years.

    I've actually got pretty high hopes for next season. We're going to look DIFFERENT and that will be a blessing in some ways.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:13 pm
  • seahawkfreak wrote: We make the playoffs this year we are right back on track and avoided a complete implosion. .


    Make the playoffs this year? Lol.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:15 pm
  • seahawkfreak wrote:Wow. It is ok to be down about the recent changes but let's be excited for the future. We make the playoffs this year we are right back on track and avoided a complete implosion. .

    Dang, and I thought I was a total homer.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:24 pm
  • The beginning of the end was when they decided to pay lil russ big boy qb money. Been a snowball effect ever since.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:37 pm
  • Of course we are. We have outstanding LBs, Earl Thomas, Britt, Wilson, solid WR's, a possible DL that is top 10 if not top 5. Russell Wilson on our side, which means if we get good blocking and a running game, we win 10-11-12 wins every year?

    The best is still yet to come, did I really forget Lockett? One year removed from a broken ankle, he has the quicks to dominate, given this is his year 4.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 5:42 pm
  • jeremiah wrote:Of course we are. We have outstanding LBs, Earl Thomas, Britt, Wilson, solid WR's, a possible DL that is top 10 if not top 5. Russell Wilson on our side, which means if we get good blocking and a running game, we win 10-11-12 wins every year?

    The best is still yet to come, did I really forget Lockett? One year removed from a broken ankle, he has the quicks to dominate, given this is his year 4.



    Woah. :shock:


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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:33 pm
  • Golden years is subjective really. We are still in the Pete Carroll era, for better or worse. The XLVIII team is basically gone though. If Pete can make another run at the big game remains to be seen, and getting back to the playoffs is the next step. Rams will probably be serious contenders again and I am not optimistic about the Seahawks being able to win the division with so many new pieces. I will keep my expectations simple I guess, and that is a season with more wins than losses. I do expect that much from Pete and Co. I am not ready to proclaim the Seahawks as the new Browns.

    Difficult to project what the 2018 team will look like, let alone '19 and '20. Personally, I find all the changes exciting and look forward to this off season and watching the new team take shape. Management has a massive task ahead of them with such limited cap space, draft picks and so many holes to fill. I will be a homer and believe that Paul, Pete and John have a plan.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:49 pm
  • Bottom line...no one here knows.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 7:55 pm
  • MrThortan wrote:Golden years is subjective really. We are still in the Pete Carroll era, for better or worse. The XLVIII team is basically gone though. If Pete can make another run at the big game remains to be seen, and getting back to the playoffs is the next step. Rams will probably be serious contenders again and I am not optimistic about the Seahawks being able to win the division with so many new pieces. I will keep my expectations simple I guess, and that is a season with more wins than losses. I do expect that much from Pete and Co. I am not ready to proclaim the Seahawks as the new Browns.

    Difficult to project what the 2018 team will look like, let alone '19 and '20. Personally, I find all the changes exciting and look forward to this off season and watching the new team take shape. Management has a massive task ahead of them with such limited cap space, draft picks and so many holes to fill. I will be a homer and believe that Paul, Pete and John have a plan.


    How do you watch a team drastically underperform to talent level, watch a front office make the same mistakes for 4 years in a row . How does anyone still have faith in this front office or head coach anymore ? Like the words of the many that were happy to see some of our better players go... sorry Pete’s In decline :sarcasm_on:
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:05 pm
  • After regressing for a few years and following some god awful offseason moves during that stretch, I find it amazing that people think Carroll at almost 67 is going to turn us around.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:11 pm
  • NJlargent wrote:After regressing for a few years and following some god awful offseason moves during that stretch, I find it amazing that people think Carroll at almost 67 is going to turn us around.

    :ditto:
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 8:33 pm
  • Since the fo can't draft I think the rebuild era has begun. Imo it might be a few years before we are a playoff team again. Changes in the fo and head coach will likely happen next season
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:04 pm
  • seahawkfreak wrote:Wow. It is ok to be down about the recent changes but let's be excited for the future. We make the playoffs this year we are right back on track and avoided a complete implosion. So yes we are still in Golden Times. We still have great players and our FO seems to be getting down to business again.

    Still a great time to be a Seahawk fan.



    How are we taking this out of Context? Just cause we cut off the extended part that you think we are still the golden girls? This is going to be a whole new regime around here. No more of Sherm and Bennett's antics. This is Wags & Wilsons team now. No more LOB or any of that. I would be pleasantly surprised like most of us Hawk fans if some how we snuck into the playoffs next year, but riddle me this bat man, how in the hell does that happen with the Eagles, Falcons, Panthers, Vikings, Rams, Saints & Packers likely 2-4 wins better then anything we can get done next season. Not a lot of us crying about what the FO is doing or had to do. We are just realists.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:16 pm
  • Seymour wrote:The golden years with Pete ended on the play IMO, not today.


    TRUTH.

    Haven't been the same since no matter how some tried to say otherwise.

    It also remains the #1 topic among Seahawk fans everywhere even if some people say they don't want it discussed anymore.

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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:35 pm
  • Aros wrote:Or does the loss of Sherman, Bennett and most likely Kam, Cliff and potentially Earl signify the Golden Years are now officially behind us? Please explain your answer in this thread.



    We may be in this phase and just cleaning things up.

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    I don't think we have hit this yet.

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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 10:55 pm
  • Same posters said after marshawn left we’d be fine.

    After we shipped all our good lineman (unger), which same posters have said was done and in decline.has missed one game in last 3 years fyi.the rest of the line we chose not too sign (carp) (sweezy) (okung). All so we can chase shiny toys like jimmy graham.

    Percy harvin deal was the downfall of this team, imho this is where the chemistry was derailed! We gave him a 67 million dollar deal, plus a 1st rounder
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    The result, Percy fleeced us for millions for a handful of snaps. Fights in the locker room? The night before the biggest game of their life??? :rumble:

    I believe this is where pete lost the dogs... LOB , and the defensive beasts and even beast himself who held out the next season I believe.

    Kams hold out after all linked to this one deal

    imho maybe I’m a idiot maybe a realist but I blame the man that had the final say PETE CARROLL
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:10 pm
  • 12forlife wrote:
    seahawkfreak wrote:Wow. It is ok to be down about the recent changes but let's be excited for the future. We make the playoffs this year we are right back on track and avoided a complete implosion. So yes we are still in Golden Times. We still have great players and our FO seems to be getting down to business again.

    Still a great time to be a Seahawk fan.



    How are we taking this out of Context? Just cause we cut off the extended part that you think we are still the golden girls? This is going to be a whole new regime around here. No more of Sherm and Bennett's antics. This is Wags & Wilsons team now. No more LOB or any of that. I would be pleasantly surprised like most of us Hawk fans if some how we snuck into the playoffs next year, but riddle me this bat man, how in the hell does that happen with the Eagles, Falcons, Panthers, Vikings, Rams, Saints & Packers likely 2-4 wins better then anything we can get done next season. Not a lot of us crying about what the FO is doing or had to do. We are just realists.


    Well first off there was at least 3 people that erased some of my phrases and reposted them to fit their narrative. You think that is cool? Next if you think we are lost then hit the bricks bro, don't watch next season.

    There are 2 arguments that can be made in what we believe the Seahawks are going to go. I want our team to win so I am taking our current situation and thinking how we can win with that. You want to say this shit is bogus and we are going to lose, more power to you. Don't watch next year.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sat Mar 10, 2018 12:30 am
  • RolandDeschain wrote:If we had not made some significant coaching changes, I'd say the answer is no. However, I think Pete finally realized that player personnel was only part of the problem when it came to our ability to make deep playoff runs the last few years.

    I've actually got pretty high hopes for next season. We're going to look DIFFERENT and that will be a blessing in some ways.

    I hope I can get to that point about next year, IMHO to get there they are going to have to have a 2012 grade draft.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:29 pm
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    RolandDeschain wrote:If we had not made some significant coaching changes, I'd say the answer is no. However, I think Pete finally realized that player personnel was only part of the problem when it came to our ability to make deep playoff runs the last few years.

    I've actually got pretty high hopes for next season. We're going to look DIFFERENT and that will be a blessing in some ways.

    I hope I can get to that point about next year, IMHO to get there they are going to have to have a 2012 grade draft.



    With the changes they have made it is possible they think they had one last year and it was just the Veterans in front of the rookies that were holding things back from going forward with them, when the original LOB was assembled the guys in front really were not that great. These kids had HOF type players they were trying to supplant, not quite the same situation.

    How ever we do need a very solid draft with only one pick as of now in the top100 players ranked.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sat Mar 10, 2018 1:31 pm
  • You mean like Betty White and those old coots? It's not THAT bad. Or are you talking about singing out of tune?
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sat Mar 10, 2018 5:50 pm
  • Golden years ended when Unger was traded for graham
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sat Mar 10, 2018 7:47 pm
  • Seymour wrote:The golden years with Pete ended on the play IMO, not today.


    Agreed. You simply cannot get that one back. The players know that and they lost faith in the system.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:41 am
  • NJlargent wrote:After regressing for a few years and following some god awful offseason moves during that stretch, I find it amazing that people think Carroll at almost 67 is going to turn us around.

    This is the logical fallacy known as the "non sequiter", or "doesn't follow". Age has nothing to do with the ability to coach, spot talent, motivate, or teach.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sun Mar 11, 2018 10:54 am
  • No, this run is over. I don't know if they're totally rebuilding or just revamping a bit yet, but last year's team was a shell of the 2013 and 2014 squads. It usually looked like a 9 or 10 win team and rarely like an elite team at all.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:03 am
  • There are a lot of things to look forward to:

    #1 Russell Wilson's development under a new OC and QB guru.

    #2 A full season of play from a very good LT in Duane Brown . . . and a new offensive line coach to boot. Fundamentals and technique of the offensive line should greatly improve.

    #3 Bobby Wagner was the best defensive player in the NFL last year -- not named Aaron Donald.

    #4 Earl Thomas will be a year removed from a broken leg. I think he has a chance to return to form. If that happens, then the sky is the limit for this defense.

    #5 Pete Carroll's final chance to cement his legacy as a great football coach. He built a Super Bowl champion. Can he do it again?
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sun Mar 11, 2018 11:24 am
  • starting over. churn and burn. get ready for 200 transactions.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sun Mar 11, 2018 4:52 pm
  • hawknation2018 wrote:There are a lot of things to look forward to:

    #1 Russell Wilson's development under a new OC and QB guru.

    #2 A full season of play from a very good LT in Duane Brown . . . and a new offensive line coach to boot. Fundamentals and technique of the offensive line should greatly improve.

    #3 Bobby Wagner was the best defensive player in the NFL last year -- not named Aaron Donald.

    #4 Earl Thomas will be a year removed from a broken leg. I think he has a chance to return to form. If that happens, then the sky is the limit for this defense.

    #5 Pete Carroll's final chance to cement his legacy as a great football coach. He built a Super Bowl champion. Can he do it again?


    Careful, lot posters throwing the homer word around. God forbid you find the good in the changes being made.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:24 pm
  • Whatever they do I hope they actually build an offense around Wilson and get him some skill players worth a damn.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sun Mar 11, 2018 5:43 pm
  • I fully expect to be in the playoffs this year. Even with all the injuries last season we were a decent kicker away from easily being in the playoffs. As long as we have Russell Wilson our Super Bowl window is open. Are we going to be the favorites? Clearly not. But we've got a shot.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:20 pm
  • No it’s done plain and simple.

    We have to trust that the front office will put the right pieces in place so that we can begin a new era of winning.

    Because if they don’t.....and we have to dwell in the pit of misery again for what seemed like an eternity....well I don’t even want to imagine that reality.

    But I am about 95% sure that PC and JS will not be part of it, because I’m my opinion the only reason why we hit on those draft picks that brought us to prominence is because they were all in college at the same time Pete was coaching USC and he knew them extensively. So right now it looks like we got lucky to land PC when we did.

    And lighting I don’t think is going to strike twice with the same regime.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:25 pm
  • A.D.I.D.A.S. wrote:Whatever they do I hope they actually build an offense around Wilson and get him some skill players worth a damn.


    You are so right. I mean after all, Baldwin and Lockett, what chumps!
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sun Mar 11, 2018 7:42 pm
  • Aros wrote:
    A.D.I.D.A.S. wrote:Whatever they do I hope they actually build an offense around Wilson and get him some skill players worth a damn.


    You are so right. I mean after all, Baldwin and Lockett, what chumps!

    Not what I meant lol. I like Baldwin and Lockett. They are fine, but they don't keep DC up at night. Russel Wilson is the only one they worry about. 2016 Carson Wentz with average skill players and 2017 Carson Wentz looked A LOT different when all of the sudden he had Jeffery, Blount, Ajayi, etc. on the roster. Wilson needs some upgrades also IMO.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Sun Mar 11, 2018 9:53 pm
  • A.D.I.D.A.S. wrote:
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    A.D.I.D.A.S. wrote:Whatever they do I hope they actually build an offense around Wilson and get him some skill players worth a damn.


    You are so right. I mean after all, Baldwin and Lockett, what chumps!

    Not what I meant lol. I like Baldwin and Lockett. They are fine, but they don't keep DC up at night. Russel Wilson is the only one they worry about. 2016 Carson Wentz with average skill players and 2017 Carson Wentz looked A LOT different when all of the sudden he had Jeffery, Blount, Ajayi, etc. on the roster. Wilson needs some upgrades also IMO.


    Yeah, you obviously didn't see Wentz in college. There is a reason he went #2 in the draft. I don't doubt the other players you listed didn't help but this guy was a winner from his NFL beginning.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Mon Mar 12, 2018 9:33 am
  • No. It’s time to build for the next shot at the crown.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:09 am
  • No, and it pretty clear we aren't.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:23 am
  • seahawkfreak wrote:
    A.D.I.D.A.S. wrote:
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    A.D.I.D.A.S. wrote:Whatever they do I hope they actually build an offense around Wilson and get him some skill players worth a damn.


    You are so right. I mean after all, Baldwin and Lockett, what chumps!

    Not what I meant lol. I like Baldwin and Lockett. They are fine, but they don't keep DC up at night. Russel Wilson is the only one they worry about. 2016 Carson Wentz with average skill players and 2017 Carson Wentz looked A LOT different when all of the sudden he had Jeffery, Blount, Ajayi, etc. on the roster. Wilson needs some upgrades also IMO.


    Yeah, you obviously didn't see Wentz in college. There is a reason he went #2 in the draft. I don't doubt the other players you listed didn't help but this guy was a winner from his NFL beginning.


    I saw plenty of him. So how did he go from 16 TDs in 16 games to 33 TDs in 13 games? He MAY have shown some improvement over his rookie year, but I'm pretty sure it is because Jordan Matthews wasn't his #1 WR anymore. Put some serious weapons around Wilson and watch what happens. That is if they fix the offensive line woes first.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:30 am
  • This is all the Golden Years.

    Come on folks. Team has been on a ridiculous run the last 7 years. The team has the best head coach in franchise history, the best QB in franchise history, has won a Super Bowl, numerous division titles and has been one of the most popular teams in the NFL.

    The era of the Legion of Boom is what has ended.

    The Patriots went 10 years in between Super Bowl wins.

    Did their "Golden Years" ever end? Of course not. Neither has Seattle's.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Mon Mar 12, 2018 10:36 am
  • Uncle Si wrote:This is all the Golden Years.

    Come on folks. Team has been on a ridiculous run the last 7 years. The team has the best head coach in franchise history, the best QB in franchise history, has won a Super Bowl, numerous division titles and has been one of the most popular teams in the NFL.

    The era of the Legion of Boom is what has ended.

    The Patriots went 10 years in between Super Bowl wins.

    Did their "Golden Years" ever end? Of course not. Neither has Seattle's.


    Exactly how I feel.

    If you would have talked to me in 1992 after watching my Hawk's go 2-14, or in 1988 seeing the moving vans pulling out of Renton taking me team away from me, I would have laughed in your face if you told me we'd win a SB someday, and be one of the best teams in the NFL for almost a decade.

    I may complain, but make no mistake these ARE the golden years of our Hawks. Is it the END of the golden years if Pete and John can't successfully rebuild this roster into another SB contender?

    That's the real question.
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Re: Are We Still In The Golden Years?
Mon Mar 12, 2018 1:32 pm
  • The Patriots went through a stretch where they let Asante Samuel, Ty Law, and Lawyer Malloy walk, then traded Richard Seymour. I think they turned out just fine.

    My concern is that we need to rethink our offensive AND defensive philosophies in order to return to championship contention. I’m going to reserve judgment until I see how this off-season goes
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