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What will Seattle do at Kicker in 2018?
Thu Mar 08, 2018 9:12 am
  • It doesn’t take a life-long Seahawks fan to know Seattle won’t be resigning Blair Walsh (if they do, I’m out), but how will they address the position? Free agency or the draft?

    Losing Steven Hauschka seemed just fine before the 2017 season, he had a down year and plenty of fans were aggressively against resigning him to a long-term deal, he actually had a fantastic year with the Buffalo Bills making 29/29 extra points and 29/33 (87.9%) on field goals with his longest coming from 56 yards out. The only time he’s been successful at such long range was in 2014 where he made a 58 yarder.

    It wasn’t so much the field goals with Hauschka in 2016, it was the extra points, he missed 6 in total that year. Just proves the mental aspect of kicking is alive and well, really.

    So, what options are available in free agency?

    Obviously, there are tons of ‘off the street’ guys who weren’t on teams in 2017, however as my kicker knowledge is about as reliable as Blair Walsh from 35-yards out, I’m going to focus on kickers that were on teams in 2017.

    Sebastian Janikowsk - Raiders – UFA
    Ryan Succop –  Titans - UFA
    Nick Folk – Buccaneers  – UFA
    Blair Walsh – Seahawks – UFA
    Mike Nugent – Bears – UFA
    Caleb Sturgis – Eagles – UFA
    Chandler Catanzaro – Jets – UFA
    Kai Forbath – Vikings – UFA
    Cairo Santos – Bears – UFA
    Cody Parkey – Dolphins – UFA
    Chris Boswell – Steelers – UFA
    Dustin Hopkins – Redskins – UFA
    Patrick Murray – Buccaneers – UFA

    You also have Sam Ficken (Rams) and Giorgio Tavecchio (Raiders) however they are both Exclusive Rights Free Agents so doubtful options.

    But which of those were any good?

    This table is ranked based on the mean average of % for both FG’s and XP’s

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    Based on the above information, the players I can see Seattle showing an interest in would be –


    Chris Boswell
    Ryan Succup


    Chris Boswell was an undrafted free agent out of Rice in 2014 and has been solid for the Steelers in each of his three seasons with the team. They (Steelers) may not want to sign a K to a multi-year deal in the $3,000,000 - $4,000,000 range which means he may hit free agency, however my gut says he ends up staying in Pittsburgh. If he doesn’t, though, I’d love Seattle to pick him up.

    Finally, Ryan Succup. He’s currently 31 years old and has improved since entering the league in 2009, his best year was 2016 however 2017 wasn’t bad by any stretch. He would likely be a mid-tier kicker and play as such, a possibility, sure, but I’d be ever so slightly nervous signing him long term.

    Of those two, Chris Boswell makes, by far, the most sense from a consistency and upside standpoint, he will also likely be the most expensive but given the year Seattle had at place kicker, my bet is they’d gladly not skimp on the position moving forwards.

    So that’s the free agency options looked at, how about the draft? Obviously any drafted (be it late round or UDFA) player is going to be considerably cheaper, however there’s far more risk involved.

    2018 draft options –

    Daniel Carlson – Aubern Tigers
    Combine Invitee

    Typically, only the best kickers get drafted, it is more a position that sees plenty of UDFA action, however Daniel Carlson is very likely to go in the later rounds.

    2017 stats –    23/31 FG’s
                            57/57 XP’s
                            Longest – 54 yards
               


    Eddy Pineiro – Florida Gators
    Combine invitee

    Eddy Pineiro could be legitimate kicker in the NFL but, being a rookie, may well cave under the pressure. He wasn’t asked to do as much as most kickers in 2017 but when he was asked, he almost always delivered. I wouldn’t be worried if Seattle invested draft capital in him.

    2017 stats -     17/18 FG’s
                            24/26 XP’s
                            Longest – 50 yards


    Michael Badgley – Miami Hurricanes
    Combine invitee

    I doubt Badgley gets much attention from Seattle, he’s not a bad kicker by any stretch, however there absolutely will be better options available.

    2017 stats -     17/23 FG’s
                            45/46 XP’s
                            Longest – 50 yards


    Griffin Oakes – Indiana Hoosiers
    Non-combine invitee

    If Seattle is interested, they’d have to arrange a private workout or visit his pro day as he isn’t attending the NFL Combine. He had a down year in 2016 but proved more consistent in 2017, I like this kid and believe Seattle very well may show interest, likely as a priority UDFA however I’d have no problem spending a 7th rounder on him.

    2017 stats -     16/17 FG’s
                            38/39 XP’s
                            Longest – 51 yards


    Drew Brown – Nebraska Cornhuskers
    Combine invitee

    Drew Browns stats look pretty good on the surface, the team he was on probably didn’t help the relatively low field goal attempts however making 12/14 and 100% of his XP’s is a great start. Definitely a contender.

    2017 stats -     12/14 FG’s
                            37/37 XP’s
                            Longest – 44 yards


    Having looked at both free agency and the draft it’s reassuring to know there are options out there. The one downside is Seattle isn’t the only team in the NFL with a need at the position so it becomes a game of who will open their wallet the widest or invest the most draft capital. Seattle could easily afford any kicker with the right contract structure so provided Chris Boswell does hit the open market, expect to hear the Seahawks linked to him, as with Graham Gano.

    If nothing happens in free agency, I’d expect one of the five names to end up on the roster for next season. Whatever happens, the kicking game needs a dramatic overhaul. Thankfully, there’s resources available to address the need.
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  • original poster wrote:It doesn’t take a life-long Seahawks fan to know Seattle won’t be resigning Blair Walsh (if they do, I’m out), but how will they address the position? Free agency or the draft?

    Losing Steven Hauschka seemed just fine before the 2017 season, he had a down year and plenty of fans were aggressively against resigning him to a long-term deal, he actually had a fantastic year with the Buffalo Bills making 29/29 extra points and 29/33 (87.9%) on field goals with his longest coming from 56 yards out. The only time he’s been successful at such long range was in 2014 where he made a 58 yarder.

    It wasn’t so much the field goals with Hauschka in 2016, it was the extra points, he missed 6 in total that year. Just proves the mental aspect of kicking is alive and well, really.

    So, what options are available in free agency?

    Obviously, there are tons of ‘off the street’ guys who weren’t on teams in 2017, however as my kicker knowledge is about as reliable as Blair Walsh from 35-yards out, I’m going to focus on kickers that were on teams in 2017.

    Sebastian Janikowsk - Raiders – UFA
    Ryan Succop –  Titans - UFA
    Nick Folk – Buccaneers  – UFA
    Blair Walsh – Seahawks – UFA
    Mike Nugent – Bears – UFA
    Caleb Sturgis – Eagles – UFA
    Chandler Catanzaro – Jets – UFA
    Kai Forbath – Vikings – UFA
    Cairo Santos – Bears – UFA
    Cody Parkey – Dolphins – UFA
    Chris Boswell – Steelers – UFA
    Dustin Hopkins – Redskins – UFA
    Patrick Murray – Buccaneers – UFA

    You also have Sam Ficken (Rams) and Giorgio Tavecchio (Raiders) however they are both Exclusive Rights Free Agents so doubtful options.

    But which of those were any good?

    This table is ranked based on the mean average of % for both FG’s and XP’s

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    Based on the above information, the players I can see Seattle showing an interest in would be –


    Chris Boswell
    Ryan Succup


    Chris Boswell was an undrafted free agent out of Rice in 2014 and has been solid for the Steelers in each of his three seasons with the team. They (Steelers) may not want to sign a K to a multi-year deal in the $3,000,000 - $4,000,000 range which means he may hit free agency, however my gut says he ends up staying in Pittsburgh. If he doesn’t, though, I’d love Seattle to pick him up.

    Finally, Ryan Succup. He’s currently 31 years old and has improved since entering the league in 2009, his best year was 2016 however 2017 wasn’t bad by any stretch. He would likely be a mid-tier kicker and play as such, a possibility, sure, but I’d be ever so slightly nervous signing him long term.

    Of those two, Chris Boswell makes, by far, the most sense from a consistency and upside standpoint, he will also likely be the most expensive but given the year Seattle had at place kicker, my bet is they’d gladly not skimp on the position moving forwards.

    So that’s the free agency options looked at, how about the draft? Obviously any drafted (be it late round or UDFA) player is going to be considerably cheaper, however there’s far more risk involved.

    2018 draft options –

    Daniel Carlson – Aubern Tigers
    Combine Invitee

    Typically, only the best kickers get drafted, it is more a position that sees plenty of UDFA action, however Daniel Carlson is very likely to go in the later rounds.

    2017 stats –    23/31 FG’s
                            57/57 XP’s
                            Longest – 54 yards
               


    Eddy Pineiro – Florida Gators
    Combine invitee

    Eddy Pineiro could be legitimate kicker in the NFL but, being a rookie, may well cave under the pressure. He wasn’t asked to do as much as most kickers in 2017 but when he was asked, he almost always delivered. I wouldn’t be worried if Seattle invested draft capital in him.

    2017 stats -     17/18 FG’s
                            24/26 XP’s
                            Longest – 50 yards


    Michael Badgley – Miami Hurricanes
    Combine invitee

    I doubt Badgley gets much attention from Seattle, he’s not a bad kicker by any stretch, however there absolutely will be better options available.

    2017 stats -     17/23 FG’s
                            45/46 XP’s
                            Longest – 50 yards


    Griffin Oakes – Indiana Hoosiers
    Non-combine invitee

    If Seattle is interested, they’d have to arrange a private workout or visit his pro day as he isn’t attending the NFL Combine. He had a down year in 2016 but proved more consistent in 2017, I like this kid and believe Seattle very well may show interest, likely as a priority UDFA however I’d have no problem spending a 7th rounder on him.

    2017 stats -     16/17 FG’s
                            38/39 XP’s
                            Longest – 51 yards


    Drew Brown – Nebraska Cornhuskers
    Combine invitee

    Drew Browns stats look pretty good on the surface, the team he was on probably didn’t help the relatively low field goal attempts however making 12/14 and 100% of his XP’s is a great start. Definitely a contender.

    2017 stats -     12/14 FG’s
                            37/37 XP’s
                            Longest – 44 yards


    Having looked at both free agency and the draft it’s reassuring to know there are options out there. The one downside is Seattle isn’t the only team in the NFL with a need at the position so it becomes a game of who will open their wallet the widest or invest the most draft capital. Seattle could easily afford any kicker with the right contract structure so provided Chris Boswell does hit the open market, expect to hear the Seahawks linked to him, as with Graham Gano.

    If nothing happens in free agency, I’d expect one of the five names to end up on the roster for next season. Whatever happens, the kicking game needs a dramatic overhaul. Thankfully, there’s resources available to address the need.


    Would not draft a Kicker especially this year, would bring in UDFA and F.A. and let them go at it rather then what we did last year and hand the job to Walsh.
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  • They have already signed Jason Myers.
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  • FlyingGreg wrote:They have already signed Jason Myers.


    Do you think he’s the answer? I don’t.
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  • numero uno priority at kicker is to release the walshcase. from there on anything is better
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  • Str8OuttaSkittles wrote:numero uno priority at kicker is to release the walshcase. from there on anything is better


    They don't need to release him, he's a free agent (and will probably remain a free agent, too).
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  • Threedee wrote:Roberto Aguayo.


    I'd need a lay down.
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  • original poster wrote:
    FlyingGreg wrote:They have already signed Jason Myers.


    Do you think he’s the answer? I don’t.


    Not necessarily. I mentioned it because in that hugely long and thorough first post, you never mentioned him.

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    Threedee wrote:Roberto Aguayo.


    I'd need a lay down.


    He's my go-to punch line for a front office that was dumb enough to sign Walsh.

    Also, I watched him kick a ton while at FSU (his brother Ricky is there now), and was both surprised when TB drafted him too high and that he sucked as much as he did.
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    Str8OuttaSkittles wrote:numero uno priority at kicker is to release the walshcase. from there on anything is better


    They don't need to release him, he's a free agent (and will probably remain a free agent, too).

    thx for that wasn't aware kind of avoid anything to do with him tbh :irishdrinkers:
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  • When does Georgia's kicker with the goggles leave college?
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  • Glasgow Seahawk wrote:When does Georgia's kicker with the goggles leave college?


    Yeah like him too. I'm sure there are many though. His name is Rodrigo Blankenship and he was a redshirt sophomore this year so I'm guess he's not leaving college.
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  • Just looking at stats, these guys seem to be the top 5 free agents remaining:

    Chandler Catanzaro
    Caleb Sturgis
    Cairo Santos
    Cody Parkey
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    Whichever one is most clutch and doesn't choke at crucial times please.

    Chris Boswell is a RFA that might become available.
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