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Playing with the Lead
Thu Feb 08, 2018 3:48 pm
  • Or, rather, not this year. I was trying to find stats on this but couldn't. I know Pete mentioned it during his exit interview with Brock and Salk a while back. He said that we barely had the lead and that affected the way the defense was able to play. I found the stats on Football Outsiders. We ranked 21st in playing time with a lead at 9:19 and 18th in total game time trailing at 24:15. I really wish they broke it down further by one and two possession leads. Not horrific, but not good, and definitely not what we want to see next year.

    Off the top of my head, I can't think of many games where we had a two score lead. The Giants game, @49ers, Colts, Eagles, and Cowboys games were the only ones. I'm not sure if we had a two score lead in any game at halftime. Maybe the Eagles game?

    I think this really hurt us this year. Teams didn't have too play with as much urgency to catch up to us, rather, our offense was the one in that position. The defense couldn't pin its ears back and rush the passer and there were fewer chances for mistakes as our opponents could afford to be more conservative. The offense was the main culprit and they had to play manic catchup in the fourth, which sucked as well. I hope
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Re: Playing with the Lead
Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:37 pm
  • adeltaY wrote:Or, rather, not this year. I was trying to find stats on this but couldn't. I know Pete mentioned it during his exit interview with Brock and Salk a while back. He said that we barely had the lead and that affected the way the defense was able to play. I found the stats on Football Outsiders. We ranked 21st in playing time with a lead at 9:19 and 18th in total game time trailing at 24:15. I really wish they broke it down further by one and two possession leads. Not horrific, but not good, and definitely not what we want to see next year.

    Off the top of my head, I can't think of many games where we had a two score lead. The Giants game, @49ers, Colts, Eagles, and Cowboys games were the only ones. I'm not sure if we had a two score lead in any game at halftime. Maybe the Eagles game?

    I think this really hurt us this year. Teams didn't have too play with as much urgency to catch up to us, rather, our offense was the one in that position. The defense couldn't pin its ears back and rush the passer and there were fewer chances for mistakes as our opponents could afford to be more conservative. The offense was the main culprit and they had to play manic catchup in the fourth, which sucked as well. I hope


    If you take a gander at football outsiders drive stats youll also notice an aberration where the hawks actually had a negative score (meaning they were trailing on average) on average when starting a drive, both on offense and defense.
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Re: Playing with the Lead
Thu Feb 08, 2018 4:47 pm
  • mrt144 wrote:
    adeltaY wrote:Or, rather, not this year. I was trying to find stats on this but couldn't. I know Pete mentioned it during his exit interview with Brock and Salk a while back. He said that we barely had the lead and that affected the way the defense was able to play. I found the stats on Football Outsiders. We ranked 21st in playing time with a lead at 9:19 and 18th in total game time trailing at 24:15. I really wish they broke it down further by one and two possession leads. Not horrific, but not good, and definitely not what we want to see next year.

    Off the top of my head, I can't think of many games where we had a two score lead. The Giants game, @49ers, Colts, Eagles, and Cowboys games were the only ones. I'm not sure if we had a two score lead in any game at halftime. Maybe the Eagles game?

    I think this really hurt us this year. Teams didn't have too play with as much urgency to catch up to us, rather, our offense was the one in that position. The defense couldn't pin its ears back and rush the passer and there were fewer chances for mistakes as our opponents could afford to be more conservative. The offense was the main culprit and they had to play manic catchup in the fourth, which sucked as well. I hope


    If you take a gander at football outsiders drive stats youll also notice an aberration where the hawks actually had a negative score (meaning they were trailing on average) on average when starting a drive, both on offense and defense.

    That’s what happens when you have craptastic offensive gameplans, craptastic offensive playcalling, and it takes you 3 quarters to adjust. Hopefully with the OC and OL coaches being terminated, this has been remedied.
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Re: Playing with the Lead
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:03 pm
  • mrt144 wrote:
    adeltaY wrote:Or, rather, not this year. I was trying to find stats on this but couldn't. I know Pete mentioned it during his exit interview with Brock and Salk a while back. He said that we barely had the lead and that affected the way the defense was able to play. I found the stats on Football Outsiders. We ranked 21st in playing time with a lead at 9:19 and 18th in total game time trailing at 24:15. I really wish they broke it down further by one and two possession leads. Not horrific, but not good, and definitely not what we want to see next year.

    Off the top of my head, I can't think of many games where we had a two score lead. The Giants game, @49ers, Colts, Eagles, and Cowboys games were the only ones. I'm not sure if we had a two score lead in any game at halftime. Maybe the Eagles game?

    I think this really hurt us this year. Teams didn't have too play with as much urgency to catch up to us, rather, our offense was the one in that position. The defense couldn't pin its ears back and rush the passer and there were fewer chances for mistakes as our opponents could afford to be more conservative. The offense was the main culprit and they had to play manic catchup in the fourth, which sucked as well. I hope


    If you take a gander at football outsiders drive stats youll also notice an aberration where the hawks actually had a negative score (meaning they were trailing on average) on average when starting a drive, both on offense and defense.


    Cool, thanks for pointing that out. What a season. :/
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Re: Playing with the Lead
Thu Feb 08, 2018 7:08 pm
  • Playing with a lead is huge for this team. Irrc Wilson is undefeated when leading by 4 or more at the half.
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Re: Playing with the Lead
Sat Feb 10, 2018 4:41 pm
  • Cant play with a lead when the offense doesnt do anything until right before halftime
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Re: Playing with the Lead
Sat Feb 10, 2018 6:06 pm
  • Sports Hernia wrote:
    mrt144 wrote:
    adeltaY wrote:Or, rather, not this year. I was trying to find stats on this but couldn't. I know Pete mentioned it during his exit interview with Brock and Salk a while back. He said that we barely had the lead and that affected the way the defense was able to play. I found the stats on Football Outsiders. We ranked 21st in playing time with a lead at 9:19 and 18th in total game time trailing at 24:15. I really wish they broke it down further by one and two possession leads. Not horrific, but not good, and definitely not what we want to see next year.

    Off the top of my head, I can't think of many games where we had a two score lead. The Giants game, @49ers, Colts, Eagles, and Cowboys games were the only ones. I'm not sure if we had a two score lead in any game at halftime. Maybe the Eagles game?

    I think this really hurt us this year. Teams didn't have too play with as much urgency to catch up to us, rather, our offense was the one in that position. The defense couldn't pin its ears back and rush the passer and there were fewer chances for mistakes as our opponents could afford to be more conservative. The offense was the main culprit and they had to play manic catchup in the fourth, which sucked as well. I hope


    If you take a gander at football outsiders drive stats youll also notice an aberration where the hawks actually had a negative score (meaning they were trailing on average) on average when starting a drive, both on offense and defense.

    That’s what happens when you have craptastic offensive gameplans, craptastic offensive playcalling, and it takes you 3 quarters to adjust. Hopefully with the OC and OL coaches being terminated, this has been remedied.


    Exactly. They barely played with a lead because the offense was hyper conservative and only scored in reaction to the other team scoring first. It's always been bad under Pete but this year he took it to a new level. The only two games where we ever had a comfortable lead was the very end of the Colts and Giants games because those two teams were so bad.
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Re: Playing with the Lead
Sat Feb 10, 2018 11:25 pm
  • WilsonMVP wrote:Cant play with a lead when the offense doesnt do anything until right before halftime


    This

    First half offense was so terribly bad this year. If I remember correctly we were down at half against Indy.
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