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  • Hate the thought of retuning to broken TV's courtesy of yet another blown lead/ blown coverage but nothing is forever in the NFL.

    RS may reconsider his position, most of $11 milion is still an awful lot of money to leave on the table.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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  • chris98251 wrote:We have a couple of 7th's and like 4 5th's I will drink the 5ths if that's how were going to rebuild, hell maybe trade back and pick up 2 4ths and 2 more 5ths :)

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  • Updated for Sherman and Lane
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  • original poster wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:We have a couple of 7th's and like 4 5th's I will drink the 5ths if that's how were going to rebuild, hell maybe trade back and pick up 2 4ths and 2 more 5ths :)

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    Good point about the 4 5th's!


    Can we trade 2 7ths for a 5th too?? we want more 5ths...
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  • OTC is updated for Bennett, Sherm, and Lane, and 2018 cap space is up to $30,492,600

    Using the calculator, if we also cut Avril, Thorpe, and Ryan, 2018 cap space goes up to $41,467,600 (and up to a whopping $109,008,510 in 2019 if we do that and cut Kam after this season).

    We can get 2018 cap space up to $53,927,600 by also converting the 2018 salaries for Russ and Bobby in to bonuses.

    In other words, Seattle now has a ton of cap space and flexibility if they want to make big signings this year and/or next. If P&J want to go out and sign, say, Richardson, Norwell, and ASJ, they have the cap flexibility to make it happen.
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  • As the present situation is developing, the Hawks now are set up to be players in FA. You have to wonder if they will be though as the comp. pick scheme set up with the one year deals will not favour that for the 2019 draft. If they are locked to preconception then about comp. picks then FA will be slow. It remains to be seen if there still won’t be other surprising player moves with present roster members, like Thomas, if the right trade partner(s) can be found. The picture as to the FO direction is still not in focus. Next week will tell us a great deal more, expect more surprises.

    They now can certainly keep the guys they want and be in conversations for others. I’m unsure it will be necessary to cut Thorpe and Ryan and think if Avril is gone he will get a parting injury settlement so his number will be reduced by $1.5 million or so. You could be right about Avril, Thorpe, and Ryan though. It appears as if P Richardson will likely not be offered a deal by the team but I suppose that will in the end depend upon the strength of his market as will be the case with Sheldon Richardson.

    Thorpe was thought to be a solid ST guy so I could see him staying depending on where his health is seen to be. The whole kicking game is certain to be under forward evaluation at each point of the process.
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  • I moved DeShawn Shead back to the roster as technically his contract for last season apparentl tolled. However, he will be released today so the news seems to indicate. He will likely be moved to releasedthis afternoon or whenever his release is announced.

    I wonder if he is treated as a UFA for potential comp pick purposes when he is released. Does anyone know?

    The motives for this release may be for less that altruistic reasons as Shead may have been able to argue that his contract should not have tolled and he was ready to return from PUP earlier. In the end I suppose that distinction won’t mean that much.
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  • jammerhawk wrote:I moved DeShawn Shead back to the roster as technically his contract for last season apparentl tolled. However, he will be released today so the news seems to indicate. He will likely be moved to releasedthis afternoon or whenever his release is announced.

    I wonder if he is treated as a UFA for potential comp pick purposes when he is released. Does anyone know?

    The motives for this release may be for less that altruistic reasons as Shead may have been able to argue that his contract should not have tolled and he was ready to return from PUP earlier. In the end I suppose that distinction won’t mean that much.


    He wouldn't be counted towards any comp picks unfortunately as he's being released.

    The team have basically put him first before themselves in this situation.
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  • I suppose so, and expected that he wouldn’t count for a comp. pick.

    As earlier indicated while this looks as if the team was just being nice to Shead, they avoid a complex arbitration and player unhappiness by real easing him despite the tolling of his contract.
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  • S- Bradley McDougald re-upped 3 years $13.95 Mil


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  • Rostermon.com says DeShawn Shead is now waived.
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  • Team extends a 2nd Rd. RFA tender of $2.97 million to CB- Justin Coleman.

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    This was an expected move.

    I will list him as a signed player for now. We will need to wait to see if other offers are made for him.
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  • I'm surprised they didn't chuck Dion Jordan on at the same time, maybe they're planning on extending him instead.
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  • I suppose so, but we may see Jordan tendered as expected today. The Coleman news came late in the day and it perhaps was their response to all the losses/cuts at CB.

    Jordan won’t exactly be hot in demand at this point so they could just extend him.
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  • Players with fewer than four accrued seasons who received no qualifying offer or minimum tender from their prior clubs:

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    Davis, Mike RB South Carolina

    Dawson, Paul LB Texas Christian

    Forrest, Josh LB Kentucky

    French, Christian LB Oregon

    McDonald, Dewey LB California, Pa.

    Rawls, Thomas RB Central Michigan

    Simone, Jordan DB Arizona State

    Smith, Garrison DT Georgia

    Thompson, Tyrus G Oklahoma
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  • Dion Jordan most likely just has a minimum tender for RFA. Since he was a first round draft pick that's what the league release says, but his compensation is $1.907M not $4.149M
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  • Clarification from Condotta

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    To clarify on Jordan, league listed his tender as first round. But that's the compensation Seattle would receive were he to sign elsewhere. As Corry notes, it's an original round tender and Jordan gets $1.907 million. https://twitter.com/corryjoel/status/974022649297887232
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  • Barkevious Mingo signed by the team

    2 years $6.8 mil., $3.2 million guaranteed.
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  • KitsapGuy wrote:

    No real surprises among the ERFAs that weren't tendered except maybe Garrison Smith - I think he's the only one not tendered who had any significant playing time (9 tackles in 8 games).
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  • I found that interesting about the non-tender to Garrison Smith as well but perhaps they plan on acquiring another similar player and he is surplus to need. Another player that bears watching is the nontendered RFA OLB- Dewey McDonald who the team is still high on but wants to re-sign cheaper than the tender ammount. McDonald was traded for two seasons ago and was active as a ST player mostly and effecticve for us when he played.

    To me Mingo is an interesting add, thre is geniuine physical ability and less developed football ability. he was a first round pick that hasn't panned out but he has bulked up some and hopefuilly hasn't lost his speed. Hopefully he can be coached up and demonstrate some of the potential that got him drafted in the first round.
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  • The NFL website has updated the draft order to reflect the picks exchanged between SEA and PHI in the Michael Bennett trade.

    As it turns out, we're simply re-exchanging the same two picks that were swapped in the Matt Tobin trade. We're getting our 5th rounder back (#19 overall in the round) rather than PHI's own 5th rounder (#32), and we're sending PHI their original 7th rounder back (#32 in the round) rather than one of the two higher picks that we also own in the 7th round (the Jets pick at #8 and Minnesota's pick at #30). So the Hawks maximized the move-up there, going from the end of the 7th round to the middle of the 5th.
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  • Seahawks spent a total of $13,629,333 on 9 players yesterday (at least as far as the cap is concerned, actual cash is more).
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  • Hey OP what do you think the real number left is now?

    OTC.com says it's $19,938,267 but your calculations would seem different from that.
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  • $17,823,267 is the real number Jammer :2thumbs:

    OTC number is wrong. (they haven't accounted for the ERFA's yet).
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  • That number also accounts for there currently being 53 on the roster and the cap only accounting for the top 51, too.
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  • Thanks OP, your numbers are interesting indeed. I will stick with OTC for the thread as they historically have done the best reporting the cap and it’s hard to fault them at this time of year for being completely current with all 32 teams.

    For sure the rule of 51 would apply to their calculations. The numbers are always subject to some debate as contracts can be varied quickly, and right now the changes are frequent.
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  • Yeah can't knock OTC, fantastic website.

    I struggle keeping on top of one teams cap position, let along doing it for 32. Hats off to Jason and the guys over there!

    As soon as they add the ERFA guys to the list their number will be pin point accurate in line with mine.
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  • Seahawks sign TE- Ed Dickson

    http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/5840/ed-dickson

    3 years/$14 mil.
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  • Sure has been a significant roster churn. However, it was overdue by at least a season. I fully expect Thomas to be gone too b/c the are not going to pay him the reported $55 mil deal he seens to be seeking.

    Change is good, change is good, whistle a happy tune. lots of good pieces here still.
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  • Looking like a 4th round comp pick

    Surprised the Seahawks couldn't/wouldn't beat this offer
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  • Thanks A-Dog!

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  • It appears the team has come to terms with WR- Jaron Brown, term as yet unknown
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  • Thanks my friend! Akeem King was tried out last season on the PS as CB. He fits the standard physical profile Pete prefers for a CB. Him playing S wouldn't be much of a stretch.

    As well failed to note:

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    Yep, good to see Turf! Typical happy Lab

    You might say he has a nose for the ball and works for food.
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  • A-Dog wrote:

    Looking like a 4th round comp pick

    Surprised the Seahawks couldn't/wouldn't beat this offer


    Nope. Since they signed Ed Dickson, Richardson is now canceled out. No comp pick at all.
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  • QuickLightning wrote:
    A-Dog wrote:

    Looking like a 4th round comp pick

    Surprised the Seahawks couldn't/wouldn't beat this offer


    Nope. Since they signed Ed Dickson, Richardson is now canceled out. No comp pick at all.

    The dollar amount would likely equal 4th round comp pick currently

    As I mentioned in the "comp pick situation" thread, the Seahawks are currently down to one comp pick due.

    However, once other teams sign some more of our UFAs (very likely), we will recoup some of our comp picks, including (likely) the 4th round pick for Richardson.
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  • Seahawks trade a 2020 conditional 7th round pick to The Brown for CB- C J Smith.
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  • I have the Ed Dickson cap hits as follows -

    2018 - $1,866,667
    2019 - $5,433,332
    2019 - $5,433,332

    Brady Henderson from ESPN came out with exactly the same number for the 2018 cap hit, too.
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  • Seahawks sign OG/T- DJ FLuker.

    source: Mike Garafolo

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    Contract believed to be for 1 year, terms unknown.
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  • jammerhawk wrote:Seahawks sign OG/T- DJ FLuker.

    source: Mike Garafolo

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    Contract believed to be for 1 year, terms unknown.


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  • Jaron Brown cap hit in 2018 is - $1,775,000. All guaranteed.
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  • Thanks OP!

    Interesting stuff!

    You should start a cap thread.your information posted on this site as far as the cap,and the future with the cap is worthy of it’s own thread. JS has a plan that will give flexibility next offseason. Contract structure which seems back end loaded is playing towards that reality.

    All in all there is some genuine talent and much demonstrably unproven talent on the roster at present. The team is now in fair shape as far as the cap but struggles with the numbers of signed players. To me this may be an unintended negative hangover of one year contracts which while presenting opportunity for comp picks leaves the team looking for players to raise the nipumbers to 90. This sadly conflicts with the comp picks as necessity requires signing FAs.
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