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DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:01 am
  • I had previously read that due to him being on the PUP so long, Shead's contract would toll and we would get him this year at no extra cost, having had his salary count against the cap this year. Alas (for the team), it looks like Shead is now a UFA. Does anyone think we sign him? Not sure what his market is given he didn't take any snaps at CB this season.

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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:41 am
  • Exactly the same contract as last year. 1 year $1.2M
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sat Feb 03, 2018 3:46 am
  • Buh bye. Can’t cover, use his money in other areas.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sat Feb 03, 2018 8:41 am
  • He was our starting corner when injured - and fought to come back. The opposite-Sherman corner has always been a target. I've always seen him as a hybrid safety/CB type. Maybe not top tier starter but if he is 85-90 percent what he was before injured definitely worth a contract, and just in time to be a leader & contributor, as other LOB are bound to be gone this year. Min vet contract to 1.2 for a single year would be fine. Paying a multi-year deal would be too risky for most teams. Might see Dallas or NE going after a guy like Shead if we pass.

    I try not to be too dismissive of guys like Maxwell, Shead, and Lane who have given their all (and suffered serious injuries that need rehab to heal) for this team. It is part of a DBs job description to get beat once in a while. As long as we do not overpay while adding continuity & leadership they may be valuable, even if they have some flaws. We will probably have 4-5 DBs on the team in their first or second year for the 2018 season, they will need (affordable) continuity & leadership.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:57 am
  • crosfam wrote:He was our starting corner when injured - and fought to come back. The opposite-Sherman corner has always been a target. I've always seen him as a hybrid safety/CB type. Maybe not top tier starter but if he is 85-90 percent what he was before injured definitely worth a contract, and just in time to be a leader & contributor, as other LOB are bound to be gone this year. Min vet contract to 1.2 for a single year would be fine. Paying a multi-year deal would be too risky for most teams. Might see Dallas or NE going after a guy like Shead if we pass.

    I try not to be too dismissive of guys like Maxwell, Shead, and Lane who have given their all (and suffered serious injuries that need rehab to heal) for this team. It is part of a DBs job description to get beat once in a while. As long as we do not overpay while adding continuity & leadership they may be valuable, even if they have some flaws. We will probably have 4-5 DBs on the team in their first or second year for the 2018 season, they will need (affordable) continuity & leadership.

    Well said.
    Shead was also first in run stop % in 2016. No reason not to have this guy on the team and in the competition at multiple DB spots.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sat Feb 03, 2018 12:09 pm
  • Sun Tzu wrote:
    crosfam wrote:He was our starting corner when injured - and fought to come back. The opposite-Sherman corner has always been a target. I've always seen him as a hybrid safety/CB type. Maybe not top tier starter but if he is 85-90 percent what he was before injured definitely worth a contract, and just in time to be a leader & contributor, as other LOB are bound to be gone this year. Min vet contract to 1.2 for a single year would be fine. Paying a multi-year deal would be too risky for most teams. Might see Dallas or NE going after a guy like Shead if we pass.

    I try not to be too dismissive of guys like Maxwell, Shead, and Lane who have given their all (and suffered serious injuries that need rehab to heal) for this team. It is part of a DBs job description to get beat once in a while. As long as we do not overpay while adding continuity & leadership they may be valuable, even if they have some flaws. We will probably have 4-5 DBs on the team in their first or second year for the 2018 season, they will need (affordable) continuity & leadership.

    Well said.
    Shead was also first in run stop % in 2016. No reason not to have this guy on the team and in the competition at multiple DB spots.


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    As in past tense. No one's going to throw big money at a middling CB that had a major injury and missed an entire year.

    If I had to guess, it'll depend on the draft as to if we even offer Shead an incentive laden contract to come back and prove he can still play...........which is the same thing he's going to hear out in free agency.

    And if we draft a corner or two that Pete thinks can contribute right away? Shead's gone.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:13 pm
  • DeShawn Shead has been a positive contributor thru out his career in Seattle. He is experienced and fits right in. Neiko Thorpe, who has one year remaining on his contract and was brought in to cover for DeShawn's loss, brings a similar presence to the field. Thorpe's cap savings, if he doesn't make the team for 2018, would be $1,818,750. I would think that would be a good reference number when thinking about DeShawn Shead.

    IMHO ...... There is clearly a need to make room for at least one of them. Although, a Byron Maxwell signing would further complicate the competitive trade offs.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sat Feb 03, 2018 2:29 pm
  • Time to move on and bring in new blood.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sat Feb 03, 2018 4:33 pm
  • Here's a guy that I could care less if we resign or not. He always seemed like he was in position to make a play, but would never turn his head around to do so.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:27 pm
  • pittpnthrs wrote:Here's a guy that I could care less if we resign or not. He always seemed like he was in position to make a play, but would never turn his head around to do so.

    Yep. Defensive backs that DON’T get their head turned around irk the crap out of me.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:32 pm
  • pittpnthrs wrote:Here's a guy that I could care less if we resign or not. He always seemed like he was in position to make a play, but would never turn his head around to do so.


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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sat Feb 03, 2018 10:45 pm
  • Multiple position player with freak combine numbers when he came out. Had a respectable 4.53 40, but also had a 38 inch vert and a truly awesome 6.76 3 cone at 220 pounds. That's a better 3 cone than both Shady McCoy and DeSean Jackson, who were 25 and 35 pounds lighter at the time. Sherm's combine doesn't stack up either.

    He'll be a year removed from injury, playing his best ball at 29, and if he can be got for 1 to 2 years on a fairly cheap deal, we'd probably be stupid to pass it up. Some IFS there, but if the deal is right then why not...
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:08 am
  • vin.couve12 wrote:Multiple position player with freak combine numbers when he came out. Had a respectable 4.53 40, but also had a 38 inch vert and a truly awesome 6.76 3 cone at 220 pounds. That's a better 3 cone than both Shady McCoy and DeSean Jackson, who were 25 and 35 pounds lighter at the time. Sherm's combine doesn't stack up either.

    He'll be a year removed from injury, playing his best ball at 29, and if he can be got for 1 to 2 years on a fairly cheap deal, we'd probably be stupid to pass it up. Some IFS there, but if the deal is right then why not...

    ^^^This sums it up. I don't see any downside to bringing Shead back on a short term contract.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:49 am
  • If Pete wants hungry players, I think he will want Shead on he roster.

    He’s absolutely got something to prove.

    My bet is exactly the same deal as last year. 1 year $1.2M. (Think that’s correct).
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:12 am
  • Make him a safety...I'm in
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sun Feb 04, 2018 9:43 am
  • He can play safety and corner. Is athletic. Has shown the ability to play at a starter level. Lock him up on a 1-2 year deal.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sun Feb 04, 2018 1:34 pm
  • Name another DB you would like to sign for bout 1-1.5 million? If the Hawks can sign him to the same deal he had least year or something relatively similar, they absolutely should jump on that.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:18 pm
  • Is Shead any better than Maxwell? No.

    Same age, a guy who can be physical and tackle but he has awful ball skills. Gives up a lot of passes that would be breakups if he ever got his head around.

    IMO if Sherman never gets hurt they don't even bring Shead off PUP. I would only consider it if Maxwell wants too much money.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Sun Feb 04, 2018 11:24 pm
  • WestcoastSteve wrote:Is Shead any better than Maxwell? No.

    Same age, a guy who can be physical and tackle but he has awful ball skills. Gives up a lot of passes that would be breakups if he ever got his head around.

    IMO if Sherman never gets hurt they don't even bring Shead off PUP. I would only consider it if Maxwell wants too much money.

    Exactly. Sherm, Coleman, Shaq, and draft another corner you should be fine.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Mon Feb 05, 2018 12:12 am
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    WestcoastSteve wrote:Is Shead any better than Maxwell? No.

    Same age, a guy who can be physical and tackle but he has awful ball skills. Gives up a lot of passes that would be breakups if he ever got his head around.

    IMO if Sherman never gets hurt they don't even bring Shead off PUP. I would only consider it if Maxwell wants too much money.

    Exactly. Sherm, Coleman, Shaq, and draft another corner you should be fine.

    Hawks don't have a lot of draft picks this year. Are you sure you want to spend an early pick on a CB? If you are going to spend an early pick on a CB, what area of need are you passing on, OG, LB, RB, TE, Safety? And, if you are spending a late pick on a corner, are you sure you want to go into the season relying on a late round pick for depth at a high value position? What percentage of late round CB picks develop into starting caliber players, solid backup players, get cut and are out of the league before ever playing a game? There seems to be this recurring notion in here that you can just draft a player and the position is magically filled.
    JS/PC typically fill out team needs in free agency so that their hand is not forced during the draft. They also bring in multiple players to compete for depth (might have something to do with the knowledge that not every draft pick or signing goes as planned). Teams typically carry 10 DBs on the roster, 9 at a minimum, with 5 of those being CBs. Shead has position versatility, he knows the system and technique, he has good size and athleticism, he led the league in CB run stop percentage in 2016, has demonstrated the ability to play as a solid starter, and appears to be fully recovered from the injury. I expect that the intelligent football minds that run this team will extend a reasonable offer to Shead; Shead may not accept the offer.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Mon Feb 05, 2018 1:15 am
  • Hot take, but I think Shead is the best tackler on the defense and if not that, the DB group. I can't recall him missing an open field tackle and he made some damn good ones in 2016. Makes sense he was tops in run stop percentage.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Mon Feb 05, 2018 8:59 am
  • It all comes full circle eventually.

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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:02 am
  • NFSeahawks628 wrote:It all comes full circle eventually.

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    Stop that right this second.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Mon Feb 05, 2018 9:42 am
  • NFSeahawks628 wrote:It all comes full circle eventually.

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    Coleman, Maxwell, and Shead should all be much cheaper to re-sign. And I would rather spend that additional money on Bradley McDougald.
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Re: DeShawn Shead is an Unrestricted FA
Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:46 pm
  • Yeah I wouldn't be surprised if you could get Shead, Maxwell and Coleman for the same price as McDouglad. You could 100% get 2/3, anyway.

    I do still want McDougald resigned, though. Although purely on the basis that I don't know where Delano Hill is in terms of looking like a starter.
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