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Unless of course he forgets about his fine for losing his cool in that game too.
 

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To those who say there hasn't been significant residual damage from "The Play" just shut up now.

It's been festering inside this team and the Hawks have not been the same since.

And yes, I think some on the team have (unfairly) judged RW harshly for it because they see the play calling as reflective of wanting to give him that SB win instead of making it a team win - and they might be right regarding the call itself.

That call, with that receiver, was fudged up.

Now if we had Jimmy Graham or similar at the time rumbling across the middle, OK, the call might make a little more sense.

But to Lockette? Hell no.

I get it. The call has been beat to death a milliong times over, but as the video above shows, it's still an issue and it will always remain an issue with this team until we get another SB - which may never happen.
 

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semiahmoo":2qx6jyfs said:
To those who say there hasn't been significant residual damage from "The Play" just shut up now.

It's been festering inside this team and the Hawks have not been the same since.

And yes, I think some on the team have (unfairly) judged RW harshly for it because they see the play calling as reflective of wanting to give him that SB win instead of making it a team win - and they might be right regarding the call itself.

That call, with that receiver, was fudged up.

Now if we had Jimmy Graham or similar at the time rumbling across the middle, OK, the call might make a little more sense.

But to Lockette? Hell no.

I get it. The call has been beat to death a milliong times over, but as the video above shows, it's still an issue and it will always remain an issue with this team until we get another SB - which may never happen.


Bennett’s lack of poise after the play was a complete failure on the field leadership. He should have been the leader on the field. Instead, he started a fight and got fined. His actions were the beginning of any problems stemming from the play. He has zero room to talk. Stay above reproach, or stay silent.
 

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Maybe he should have been more concerned with his unit giving up a 10 point lead.
 

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"And yes, I think some on the team have (unfairly) judged RW harshly for it because they see the play calling as reflective of wanting to give him that SB win instead of making it a team win - and they might be right regarding the call itself. "
If true then they (the malcontents) are partially responsible for some of the loses since.
Also, the FO should have rid themselves of these guys long ago.
One bad apple can spoil the barrel.
Bennett and maybe a few others need to go.
 

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For those who are still butt sore over that play have other issues other than that play. Especially those "professionals". I am a big MB fan but he just needs to get over it. If he is letting this affect him still then he needs to be purged (along with any other players as well). This mentality is not championship calibre. I bet I could find enough plays in that game where he whiffed or came up short. Just move on already or leave. Just stop whining.
 

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But, but, what about the 10 point lead you gave up? That was the question.
 

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Seanhawk":djfm6q39 said:
But, but, what about the 10 point lead you gave up? That was the question.

Coming into that game, Kam was playing with a torn MCL, Sherm was playing with a hyperextended elbow, and Earl was playing with a torn labrum. In the cases of Sherm and Earl, they were both playing with one arm tied behind their backs. They both missed a lot of tackles that day that they normally wouldn’t have missed.

Also, Jeremy Lane blew out his knee in the first quarter, and Tharold Simon also went down in the third. By the time the fourth quarter came around, our secondary was an absolute mess, and Tom Brady took full advantage. THAT’S why we blew that lead.

As for the interception, there’s this; the way the Pats defense was aligned, RW walks in for a touchdown if we call read option on that play, AND, what hurts the most about that play to this day, NE had two time outs and did not use them, meaning that they were getting ready to CONCEDE THE TOUCHDOWN.

That’s what hurts the most about that day.
 

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THE TABS":3vk1cznu said:
Seanhawk":3vk1cznu said:
But, but, what about the 10 point lead you gave up? That was the question.

Coming into that game, Kam was playing with a torn MCL, Sherm was playing with a hyperextended elbow, and Earl was playing with a torn labrum. In the cases of Sherm and Earl, they were both playing with one arm tied behind their backs. They both missed a lot of tackles that day that they normally wouldn’t have missed.

Also, Jeremy Lane blew out his knee in the first quarter, and Tharold Simon also went down in the third. By the time the fourth quarter came around, our secondary was an absolute mess, and Tom Brady took full advantage. THAT’S why we blew that lead.

As for the interception, there’s this; the way the Pats defense was aligned, RW walks in for a touchdown if we call read option on that play, AND, what hurts the most about that play to this day, NE had two time outs and did not use them, meaning that they were getting ready to CONCEDE THE TOUCHDOWN.

That’s what hurts the most about that day.

Whatever. I'm aware of the injuries and the situation. They asked about playing against Brady, not about that last play. If you don't think Bennett comes off as a baby in that interview, I don't know what to tell you.
 

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Its facts that the team never recovered from that loss. You can see it. People trying to say injuries or they got old....it could be part of it but loss was the dagger.
 

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The defense will always get a pass because of that last play, but there just as responsible for that loss as Bevell.
 

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Sox-n-Hawks":2y8zojya said:
semiahmoo":2y8zojya said:
To those who say there hasn't been significant residual damage from "The Play" just shut up now.

It's been festering inside this team and the Hawks have not been the same since.

And yes, I think some on the team have (unfairly) judged RW harshly for it because they see the play calling as reflective of wanting to give him that SB win instead of making it a team win - and they might be right regarding the call itself.

That call, with that receiver, was fudged up.

Now if we had Jimmy Graham or similar at the time rumbling across the middle, OK, the call might make a little more sense.

But to Lockette? Hell no.

I get it. The call has been beat to death a milliong times over, but as the video above shows, it's still an issue and it will always remain an issue with this team until we get another SB - which may never happen.


Bennett’s lack of poise after the play was a complete failure on the field leadership. He should have been the leader on the field. Instead, he started a fight and got fined. His actions were the beginning of any problems stemming from the play. He has zero room to talk. Stay above reproach, or stay silent.

Totally agree. Have not been a Bennett fan for some time.
 

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THE TABS":wdzv5msy said:
Seanhawk":wdzv5msy said:
But, but, what about the 10 point lead you gave up? That was the question.

Coming into that game, Kam was playing with a torn MCL, Sherm was playing with a hyperextended elbow, and Earl was playing with a torn labrum. In the cases of Sherm and Earl, they were both playing with one arm tied behind their backs. They both missed a lot of tackles that day that they normally wouldn’t have missed.

Also, Jeremy Lane blew out his knee in the first quarter, and Tharold Simon also went down in the third. By the time the fourth quarter came around, our secondary was an absolute mess, and Tom Brady took full advantage. THAT’S why we blew that lead.

As for the interception, there’s this; the way the Pats defense was aligned, RW walks in for a touchdown if we call read option on that play, AND, what hurts the most about that play to this day, NE had two time outs and did not use them, meaning that they were getting ready to CONCEDE THE TOUCHDOWN.

That’s what hurts the most about that day.

True. There's video of the Pats sideline and you can see Belichek literally recognize the play that's going to be called. For a second he's stunned because it seems so stupid. Then they prepare for it.

And win the game.

I agree our D allowed the comeback - but then again, it is NE and comebacks are Brady's thing - GOAT.

So when you get a chance to beat them, you can't go bonehead and to this day I am convinced the Seahawks went full on bonehead with that play call at that particular time.
 

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Shanegotyou11":1p9t9dp1 said:
Its facts that the team never recovered from that loss. You can see it. People trying to say injuries or they got old....it could be part of it but loss was the dagger.

YUP. Never really understood the whole "It wasn't the play" or "they're over the play by now" mentality of some on forums like this.

That play was as you say, a dagger to the heart and the trust between players and coaches has never recovered, and without that, you're not a legit playoff team but a pretender, and this season, we couldn't even pretend anymore...
 

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He's right. That game was given away at the 1 yard line.

Stop telling a guy who plays very hard for the team to do anything.

He's on the team, you're on the internet.
 

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THE TABS":168saxm1 said:
Seanhawk":168saxm1 said:
But, but, what about the 10 point lead you gave up? That was the question.

Coming into that game, Kam was playing with a torn MCL, Sherm was playing with a hyperextended elbow, and Earl was playing with a torn labrum. In the cases of Sherm and Earl, they were both playing with one arm tied behind their backs. They both missed a lot of tackles that day that they normally wouldn’t have missed.

Also, Jeremy Lane blew out his knee in the first quarter, and Tharold Simon also went down in the third. By the time the fourth quarter came around, our secondary was an absolute mess, and Tom Brady took full advantage. THAT’S why we blew that lead.

As for the interception, there’s this; the way the Pats defense was aligned, RW walks in for a touchdown if we call read option on that play, AND, what hurts the most about that play to this day, NE had two time outs and did not use them, meaning that they were getting ready to CONCEDE THE TOUCHDOWN.

That’s what hurts the most about that day.
Lane broke his arm. Just wanted to correct the info...
 

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Regardless of how the defense gave up a 10 pt lead, the offense had a chance to win the SB on the 1 yd line and didn’t . Getting so close for a repeat and didn’t because of a questionable call is gonna hurt for a long time.
 
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