Ifedi on Cable

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Re: Ifedi on Cable
Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:14 pm
  • red grenadine wrote:Rather have a coach players hate but makes them better than a coach who players love who lets them be lazy and suck

    There are a lot of styles of relating to players that are effective.
    Ever hear of a guy named John Wooden?
    Or a guy named Bobby Knight?
    Two very different interpersonal styles towards their players. One had a lot more championships than the other.

    These days if coaches act in evil, thoughtless ways that make their players hate them, many players will underperform.
    Vince Lombardi would be a well below .500 coach in the NFL of the last 10 years. He'd beat the Jim Mora Jr's of the world, but get beaten like a drum by coaches like Pete Carroll, Dan Quinn, Ron Rivera, Mike McCarthy, to name just a few, and destroyed by the Belichicks of the world. Lombardi was successful back in the day *despite* his sometimes-abusive demeanor toward his players.

    Gotta admit though, verbally colorful coaches like Mike Ditka are entertaining. I love those old Jim Mora (Sr) videos, the "Playoffs??!!" and "Diddly-poo" ones. Awesome stuff.

    Speaking of Ditka, from the Ditka tree, there's Mike Singletary. Calls out Vernon Davis, kicks him off the field in a game vs. the Seahawks. Davis hated him, but then went on to later give Singletary credit for getting him to pull his head out of his ass. ... story.html
    “That moment, it started to click for me. I said, ‘I have to put my teammates first because if I don’t, I’m going to lose all I have. I have to focus and I have to be different.’
    “It made me a better man, a better teammate, and a better leader for my team. It helped me become the player I am today.”

    Singletary, to his credit, has done his own work, to improve himself as a coach, to be ready when he gets another shot.

    "After he left San Francisco and settled in Minnesota, Mike Singletary looked in the mirror and saw what his wife had been talking about. ... Singletary, the fired head coach, stood eye-to-eye with the look his players, the TV audience and his wife had seen. “I looked like I’m saying, ‘I hate you. I cannot stand you,’” he said.
    He had every intention to communicate his belief in his players, that there was greatness within them. He had sent the opposite message.

    “My body language had to change. My tone of voice had to change,” he said.
    Singletary has been retooling his style because he wants to be a head coach again. ... 87621f7158

    I don't think Cable's style was an issue. His overall effectiveness was the issue, which comes down to his decisions of how and where to use players, what techniques to teach, what adjustments to make based on game feedback. Ultimately, it's Cable's system of coaching and resulting effectivness that failed, the substance of his coaching and teaching failed, his failure to make adjustments, and little or nothing (IMO) to do with his surface "syntax" of coaching.
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Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:09 pm
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Re: Ifedi on Cable
Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:07 am
  • InadvertentSmell wrote:
    original poster wrote:I did wonder what his tweet said, he has me blocked.

    ....I'm glad to see he can block someone.

    Bahahahahahaha! That's beautiful right there! I was going to say it's the first actual effective block I've seen him make, but OP got around it anyway. Just like in the games.
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