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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:31 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:
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    Sports Hernia wrote:If this is the vid with Doug going off protecting DB, it was Doug being a “good soldier” sticking up for his commander “publicly”. Doug was also the same guy flipping DB the bird when he was asked to throw a TD to Russ.


    You need to listen to it to understand what I was referring to.

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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:52 pm
  • Marshawn Lynch gets the news of Bevell being Fired.

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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:53 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:Here is a link to a pretty good video with some good questions concerning the next OC in regards to Wilson, Baldwins parting interview at seasons end.

    http://www.nbcsports.com/video/seattle-seahawks-fire-offensive-coordinator-darrell-bevell?ls=pftvod


    It's possible that Baldwin was referring to Wilson, but it's also possible he was referring to Ifedi, Pocic, Britt and Joekel. Not to mention a few RB's. Juicy speculation, but...meh.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:54 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:Marshawn Lynch gets the news of Bevell being Fired.

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    Until Bevell gets hired by the Raiders. :stirthepot:
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:06 pm
  • I will join the chorus of wishing it was Cable. I have to admit, I was actually curious to see what Bevel could do with Wilson and a half competent offensive line. I’m curious to see what he does in his next stop. Yes, he is slow to adjust, and his situational awareness is lacking, but I think he is a competent, if only slightly above average, offensive coordinator. I do think he would do better, in all regards, if he had a pocket for Russ to work in. He wasn’t, in any way, the restrictor plate on this offense.

    I’m marginally optimistic, but won’t be particularly happy until Cable is tired.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:08 pm
  • I suspect that wishing Cable gone as well is majority view around here.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to consistently take the final step. The interior rush needs improvement. The OLine clearly still needs work.

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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:26 pm
  • jammerhawk wrote:I suspect that wishing Cable gone as well is majority view around here.


    I'm fairly sure not one poster is opposed to it.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:37 pm
  • For those saying not to get an old tired "retread" you must forget that Pete Carroll was a retread... I'm all for finding the next McVay but that's easier said than done. There is something to be said about guys that have been successful in the NFL and have that experience.

    Now if they do go with a college guy I hope they bring in someone that was heavy in recruiting for the past 5+ years and will bring with him that knowledge of diamonds in the rough like Pete did when he first got here. I believe most of the guys from the first few drafts were all guys Pete Carroll had at USC or had recruited to USC.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:38 pm
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    jammerhawk wrote:I suspect that wishing Cable gone as well is majority view around here.


    I'm fairly sure not one poster is opposed to it.


    Ohh they are out there....

    Maelstrom787 wrote:No Sark. For gods sake, no Sark.

    If Cable gets elevated, it may be a good thing. Offensive line might improve without his micromanaging.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:44 pm
  • Seymour wrote:
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    jammerhawk wrote:I suspect that wishing Cable gone as well is majority view around here.


    I'm fairly sure not one poster is opposed to it.


    Ohh they are out there....

    Maelstrom787 wrote:No Sark. For gods sake, no Sark.

    If Cable gets elevated, it may be a good thing. Offensive line might improve without his micromanaging.


    Misunderstanding and quoting Maelstrom doesn't really make your point...

    Jammer is probably correct; while there were a few who spoke in Bevell's favor (some vehemently) and a few who were cautious, I cannot remember ever reading anything on this site in favor of Cable. The above is as close as it gets, and it's only a backhanded compliment to the potential of Cable not touching the O-line directly anymore.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:47 pm
  • Fade wrote:I'm just waking up to this news, and I feel nothing. The other shoe needs to drop. Then the party can begin.


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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:50 pm
  • If we don't cut Cable I am going to absolutely lose my shit.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:55 pm
  • xgeoff wrote:If we don't cut Cable I am going to absolutely lose my shit.


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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:01 pm
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    Fade wrote:I'm just waking up to this news, and I feel nothing. The other shoe needs to drop. Then the party can begin.


    Now we can party!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:02 pm
  • xgeoff wrote:If we don't cut Cable I am going to absolutely lose my shit.

    You can keep your shit, Cable just got canned too! :2thumbs:
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:03 pm
  • People who said they were not gonna' watch the team any more running back in 3....2....1...... :lol:
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:05 pm
  • I wish people would stop saying getting rid of Cable was more important than getting rid of Bevell.

    I don't find that to be true, if you don't believe me watch the goal line play of SB 49 20 times, then watch the all 22 of every game for the past 3 years, then tell me we didn't need a new guy at OC.

    The play-calls throughout every game were puzzling 50% of the time.

    Not sure why ESPN 710 Seattle is all over Bevell's nuts not wanting him to get fired, don't understand that opinion.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:11 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:People who said they were not gonna' watch the team any more running back in 3....2....1...... :lol:




    Still nothing new, yet. :2thumbs:
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:13 pm
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    SoulfishHawk wrote:People who said they were not gonna' watch the team any more running back in 3....2....1...... :lol:




    Still nothing new, yet. :2thumbs:



    This is code for "hey you might want to explore other employment opportunities, cause I'm going to fire you."
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:13 pm
  • hawknation2018 wrote:
    SoulfishHawk wrote:People who said they were not gonna' watch the team any more running back in 3....2....1...... :lol:




    Still nothing new, yet. :2thumbs:


    Wow, how much nicer can one be let go in the NFL.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:14 pm
  • Official word from the team.

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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:14 pm
  • hawknation2018 wrote:
    SoulfishHawk wrote:People who said they were not gonna' watch the team any more running back in 3....2....1...... :lol:




    Still nothing new, yet. :2thumbs:


    So this is leaving the company to pursue new opportunities and spend time with the family statement before he is actually fired statement. Guess we will be hearing Richard hiring possibilities the rest the afternoon then.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:51 pm
  • Damn Bevell landing on his feet, rumored to be headed to the Falcs to be the qb coach
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:56 pm
  • flmmkrz wrote:Damn Bevell landing on his feet, rumored to be headed to the Falcs to be the qb coach


    Did you want the guy out of the league? I don't wish him any ill will, I just didn't want him running our offense anymore.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:56 pm
  • SoulfishHawk wrote:People who said they were not gonna' watch the team any more running back in 3....2....1...... :lol:


    I said I wasnt going to watch next year if Cable or Bevell were still running the show....both of them got fired so will watch now
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:57 pm
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    flmmkrz wrote:Damn Bevell landing on his feet, rumored to be headed to the Falcs to be the qb coach


    Did you want the guy out of the league? I don't wish him any ill will, I just didn't want him running our offense anymore.



    no course not, just surprised it happened so quick
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:10 pm
  • flmmkrz wrote:Damn Bevell landing on his feet, rumored to be headed to the Falcs to be the qb coach


    Not really rumored. Someone just speculated based on the Carroll connection.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:11 pm
  • flmmkrz wrote:Damn Bevell landing on his feet, rumored to be headed to the Falcs to be the qb coach

    Poor bastards! If true. LOL!
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:14 pm
  • I would have like to see what he could have done with adequate oline. I don't suppose Cables mash unit made play calling very easy. On the other hand, for a long time we have heard from "experts" that our route tree's were too simplistic and easy to defend and also that our entire offense is easy to diagnose. I guess we will find out for sure now.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:55 pm
  • Seymour wrote:
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    jammerhawk wrote:I suspect that wishing Cable gone as well is majority view around here.


    I'm fairly sure not one poster is opposed to it.


    Ohh they are out there....

    Maelstrom787 wrote:No Sark. For gods sake, no Sark.

    If Cable gets elevated, it may be a good thing. Offensive line might improve without his micromanaging.


    Complete misrepresentation of my post. Have called multiple times for the firing of Cable. Even added a thinly veiled insult to his ineffective line coaching to the post.

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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:56 pm
  • flmmkrz wrote:Damn Bevell landing on his feet, rumored to be headed to the Falcs to be the qb coach


    Perfect spot for him with Ryan there. He is more in need of daily massages then any actual tips to improve his game.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:09 pm
  • Maelstrom787 wrote:
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    jammerhawk wrote:I suspect that wishing Cable gone as well is majority view around here.


    I'm fairly sure not one poster is opposed to it.


    Ohh they are out there....

    Maelstrom787 wrote:No Sark. For gods sake, no Sark.

    If Cable gets elevated, it may be a good thing. Offensive line might improve without his micromanaging.


    Complete misrepresentation of my post. Have called multiple times for the firing of Cable. Even added a thinly veiled insult to his ineffective line coaching to the post.

    Poor job.


    If true then you have my apologies for the misread. I've been battling several here for sometime that were on the Cable bandwagon and so I may need to work on being a civilian soldier now.

    The whole idea that elevating Cable could be anything but bad makes me ill to be honest.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:26 pm
  • Seymour wrote:
    Maelstrom787 wrote:
    Seymour wrote:
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    I'm fairly sure not one poster is opposed to it.


    Ohh they are out there....

    Maelstrom787 wrote:No Sark. For gods sake, no Sark.

    If Cable gets elevated, it may be a good thing. Offensive line might improve without his micromanaging.


    Complete misrepresentation of my post. Have called multiple times for the firing of Cable. Even added a thinly veiled insult to his ineffective line coaching to the post.

    Poor job.


    If true then you have my apologies for the misread. I've been battling several here for sometime that were on the Cable bandwagon and so I may need to work on being a civilian soldier now.

    The whole idea that elevating Cable could be anything but bad makes me ill to be honest.


    Apologies accepted and no hard feelings. I can see how my post would be misconstrued.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:35 pm
  • I wonder if this could affect if we bring Graham back?
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:38 pm
  • I'm still on Cloud 9 about this. I said it last week -- I just flat out couldn't see how in the world the Seahawks could legitimately bring Darrell Bevell and Tom Cable back. I mean, they just couldn't. Pete Carroll loses all sense of credibility with the players ... the fans ... everyone if he does. His mantra of "Always Compete" and striving for Championship level football every Sunday is complete crap in the eyes of everyone if those 2 are brought back. I'm glad that in the end, the Seahawks organization saw things the same way. It's going to take me awhile to come down from the ceiling I'm so excited. Change has finally come at long last, my friends. :irishdrinkers: :0190l:
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:58 pm
  • StoneCold wrote:
    chris98251 wrote:Here is a link to a pretty good video with some good questions concerning the next OC in regards to Wilson, Baldwins parting interview at seasons end.

    http://www.nbcsports.com/video/seattle-seahawks-fire-offensive-coordinator-darrell-bevell?ls=pftvod


    It's possible that Baldwin was referring to Wilson, but it's also possible he was referring to Ifedi, Pocic, Britt and Joekel. Not to mention a few RB's. Juicy speculation, but...meh.


    Exactly. It's also possible and IMO most likely he was referring to everyone not executing which calls out Graham and his $10M drops and jogging between the 20's, the Rawls running like Taz let out of a cage, and everyone else screwing up.

    I did like him going to Shula though. The more I look at him the better he gets.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:14 pm
  • I apologize for all the mean things I have said about Carroll.

    As long as we can cut dead weight, or poor fits - I am just fine with trying to get better.

    Sort of in a happy daze, cautiously optimistic about this team for the first time in years.


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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:24 pm
  • That’s flipping ridiculous and makes no sense what so ever. “Russell isn’t getting the ball in the hands of his receivers”??? Look at the freaking numbers!!! The numbers don’t come close to backing up that statement. “The answers in the film” The films show unblocked pass rushers and covered receivers but still league leading passing td’s and yardage.... and how is it Russell's fault that our running backs can’t find running room? This guy is a shumuck. Personally I believe he is full of it but if he’s right and some in the locker room are against Russell Wilson then trade Russell or get rid of those malcontents. Get rid of this hack too.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:50 pm
  • brimsalabim wrote:That’s flipping ridiculous and makes no sense what so ever. “Russell isn’t getting the ball in the hands of his receivers”??? Look at the freaking numbers!!! The numbers don’t come close to backing up that statement. “The answers in the film” The films show unblocked pass rushers and covered receivers but still league leading passing td’s and yardage.... and how is it Russell's fault that our running backs can’t find running room? This guy is a shumuck. Personally I believe he is full of it but if he’s right and some in the locker room are against Russell Wilson then trade Russell or get rid of those malcontents. Get rid of this hack too.


    So stay in the pocket for more than 3 seconds while every receiver runs 9 routes, ok. Didn't see RW change or divert from those bubble screens. Why does the offense work sometimes at the end of the 2nd quarter or not at all till the 4th quarter? Russell rarely changes any of the plays called at the LOS. Does he leave the pocket too early sometimes/a lot, can't really blame the guy.

    This is why I prefer the exchange of ideas here instead of following talking heads on TV that seem to always like to produce shows with a nice looking big boobed women in the mix along with loud mouth bloviators. Would however be interested in what Colin Cowherd has to say on the matter though.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:59 pm
  • Late to this party.

    Bevell did, at least, have to deal with the OL deficiencies. Unlike Cable, who is in the pit of misery for coaches, I put Bevell at average to below average. But low enough that I'm cautiously optimistic we can do better. This is based on:

    - First-half scripting always sucked, reflecting directly on his pre-game scouting/analysis. Did he do any pre-game analysis or just chug beers during the week?

    - Whenever we got a new toy (Harvin, Graham), it immediately threw our offense off-track, followed by years of recovery. In Harvin's case he was a Dbag but for Graham if it takes 3 years to figure out you have him trot into the end zone, turn, and block-out while Russ fires to his midsection then you are truly awful. That should have been sussed out 3 days into JG's first camp.

    - It did indeed seem like we kept pretending we had enough protection for long routes despite all evidence to the contrary. I swear every week before a Rams game he said "hey, the book on the Rams is they have a ferocious DL but their secondary is vulnerable deep. Go routes for all!!!!"

    - When he did try to mitigate the rush, it often took the form of bubble screens to slow players instead of RB screens or shorter/intermediate passing in the middle. I'm still waiting for the pay off I was told he was setting up with those.

    - He seemed obsessed with X and O mismatches, which is good, but he never seemed nearly as fluent in personnel mismatches. It's why Brock can diagram why a bubble screen should have worked until you see one of our tiny WRs was asked to block some beast of an SS.

    Anyhow, it's been done to death before, I'll just say we were not awful (overall that is, in the first half we were) on offense. We had spurts of very good production. I'm sure a new OC will have their own limitations, but I'm more optimistic than pessimistic about replacing Bevell.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:07 pm
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    This is why I prefer the exchange of ideas here instead of following talking heads on TV that seem to always like to produce shows with a nice looking big boobed women in the mix along with loud mouth bloviators. Would however be interested in what Colin Cowherd has to say on the matter though.


    To be honest, I wouldn't mind if we added a few big-boobed women here at .net too.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:45 pm
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Thu Jan 11, 2018 3:55 pm
  • hawk45 wrote:Late to this party.

    Bevell did, at least, have to deal with the OL deficiencies. Unlike Cable, who is in the pit of misery for coaches, I put Bevell at average to below average. But low enough that I'm cautiously optimistic we can do better. This is based on:

    - First-half scripting always sucked, reflecting directly on his pre-game scouting/analysis. Did he do any pre-game analysis or just chug beers during the week?


    No argument that they never seemed to work. Wonder if they're a reflection of the scripting, the execution, or predictability.

    hawk45 wrote:- Whenever we got a new toy (Harvin, Graham), it immediately threw our offense off-track, followed by years of recovery. In Harvin's case he was a Dbag but for Graham if it takes 3 years to figure out you have him trot into the end zone, turn, and block-out while Russ fires to his midsection then you are truly awful. That should have been sussed out 3 days into JG's first camp.


    Go watch Graham's 2016 highlights. Everyone's forgotten. He gave us some fun stuff, if not quite consistent.

    hawk45 wrote:- It did indeed seem like we kept pretending we had enough protection for long routes despite all evidence to the contrary. I swear every week before a Rams game he said "hey, the book on the Rams is they have a ferocious DL but their secondary is vulnerable deep. Go routes for all!!!!"


    I hated this. Yes.

    hawk45 wrote:- When he did try to mitigate the rush, it often took the form of bubble screens to slow players instead of RB screens or shorter/intermediate passing in the middle. I'm still waiting for the pay off I was told he was setting up with those.


    This is something I don't criticize. Most people expect payoffs of more than 4 yards because it's a passing play. Truth is, if it gains 4 yards, it's technically a success.

    hawk45 wrote:- He seemed obsessed with X and O mismatches, which is good, but he never seemed nearly as fluent in personnel mismatches. It's why Brock can diagram why a bubble screen should have worked until you see one of our tiny WRs was asked to block some beast of an SS.


    That's a drafting issue, not Bevell. But it's a good shout. We do have a lot of shrimp receivers, and it affects our gameplanning.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:33 pm
  • GeekHawk wrote:Well, as I grow older/larger my man-boobs seem to be increasing... Will that do?


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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:18 am
  • MontanaHawk05 wrote:Go watch Graham's 2016 highlights. Everyone's forgotten. He gave us some fun stuff, if not quite consistent.


    Yeah, my complaint about Bevell taking way too long to use Graham is centered on the red zone, since that was far and away the biggest reason we gave up so much to get him and paid him so much. 2015 we didn't use Graham enough but it was cut short due to injury. 2016 Graham killed it between the 20s but still wasn't the red zone workhorse. 2017 Graham finally becomes the red zone easy button. What really frosts me is when we see how we used Graham there in 2017 it's so simple and obvious. Plod into the end zone, turn, block out, 6 pts. We did that over and over and over this year and no one could stop it.

    MontanaHawk05 wrote:This <bubble screens> is something I don't criticize. Most people expect payoffs of more than 4 yards because it's a passing play. Truth is, if it gains 4 yards, it's technically a success.


    I agree, 4 yards is success. But why wouldn't you throw these to your more elusive receivers always? Bevell wasted so many bubble screens on Walters, Kearse, even Baldwin is very meh in terms of being elusive in the open-field (which is weird because Baldwin is elite at shedding coverage at the LOS). Baldwin's go-to open field move is that lunge/hop backward, then resume forward motion. It's good for like an extra yard sometimes.

    Throw the bubble screens to Lockett, who has that ability to slip guys in a phone booth. This again goes to my complaint about personnel match-ups. Kearse was a decent blocker, he should be blocking. Baldwin could block. Lockett is tiny and elusive. But to my recollection, of all our WRs Lockett got the least bubble screens thrown to him and that's just idiotic.

    With respect to Xs and Os vs Jimmies and Joes I never expected Bevell to turn Lockett into a plus blocker, Graham into a plus blocker, etc. But Bevell actually had players that fit certain things he was trying to do, he'd just hammer the square peg into the round hole for some reason.

    This year for example we'd see designed passes in the flat to Graham. Graham has some okay speed once he's going but he has zero acceleration. That is such an awful use of Graham. Thankfully we nailed Grahams red zone role, even if we did regress in terms of using him between the 20s.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Fri Jan 12, 2018 10:49 am
  • Graham out of the slot or down the seam was his biggest asset as a Saint, we rarely did that.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Fri Jan 12, 2018 5:54 pm
  • This literally has to be the first bev thread Sioux has been MIA from.. it's almost as glorious as bev and cable being shown the door.
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Re: REPORT: Darrell Bevell Fired
Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:38 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:Graham out of the slot or down the seam was his biggest asset as a Saint, we rarely did that.


    I honestly think Graham might have been showing some age this season. Or he really didn't want to be here. He might go somewhere else and flourish.
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