McDougald is #1 safety in run stop %

hawknation2017 · Dec 28, 2017

Strong safety Bradley McDougald has racked up 17 run stops on his 241 run defense snaps this year, which has resulted in a run stop percentage of 7.1 percent, the best rate among all safeties with at least 210 run defense snaps this year.

https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/p ... ns-week-16

semiahmoo · Dec 28, 2017

And I believe we are paying him much less than a million for the season.

Good return on investment!

sutz · Dec 28, 2017

Sign him up! Lock him in long term!

:2thumbs:

hawknation2017 · Dec 28, 2017

Critical signing. We were screwed last year after Earl Thomas went down. I'm not a believer in Delano Hill, so I hope they can find a way to re-sign McDougald or find someone else good. I do think Tedric Thompson has some potential to become a playmaker.

SoulfishHawk · Dec 28, 2017

One hell of a great signing. Hoping he gets an extension too. He really fits in well here.

RussB · Dec 28, 2017

Really impressed with his play. Hes been really legit along with justin coleman. 2 great signings.

MontanaHawk05 · Dec 28, 2017

sutz":2qsicyhd said:
Sign him up! Lock him in long term!

:2thumbs:

No, no, we have to let him go because he'll get lazy if he's paid and raaaarrr let's be cutthroat like New England.

In all seriousness, tho, yes, get it done. He's outperformed all expectations and made members of the LOB expendable. Best FA signing of the year. One of the best pickups since Lynch.

sutz · Dec 28, 2017

MontanaHawk05":gt1d2jvr said:
sutz":gt1d2jvr said:

Sign him up! Lock him in long term!

:2thumbs:

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No, no, we have to let him go because he'll get lazy if he's paid and raaaarrr let's be cutthroat like New England.

:laugh: :rofl:

Lot of that kind of commentary around here. :snack:

Grahamhawker · Dec 28, 2017

To stay ahead of the curve, I advocate not resigning any player that shows signs of productivity. It's the only sure way!

Trrrroy · Dec 28, 2017

Still can't believe he signed for that cheap. Did other teams not see how good he was last year?

original poster · Dec 28, 2017

I think he’s going to be too expensive for Seattle next year unfortunately.

Wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see him get $6-8M APY

FidelisHawk · Dec 28, 2017

semiahmoo":e351caq2 said:
And I believe we are paying him much less than a million for the season.

Good return on investment!

Per Spotrac;
“Bradley McDougald signed a 1 year, $1,800,000 contract with the Seattle Seahawks, including a $750,000 signing bonus, $750,000 guaranteed, and an average annual salary of $1,800,000. In 2017, McDougald will earn a base salary of $800,000, a signing bonus of $750,000, a roster bonus of $250,000 and a incentive bonus of $200,000, while carrying a cap hit of $2,000,000 and a dead cap value of $800,000.”

His last year with Tampa, his cap number was $2,553,000

IndyHawk · Dec 28, 2017

Well another pick for us if he cannot be signed.

Subzero717 · Dec 28, 2017

Yet somehow we have given up crazy yards in run defense? [emoji17]

Kam is under contract and we used a 3rd on Hill last year. Guys like McDougal are luxuries.

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seedhawk · Dec 28, 2017

Maybe, just maybe, instead of applauding the stat and McD's play, we should be asking why a guy splitting his play time between both safety spots has this stat in his resume? Are other defenders not doing their jobs? Is our scheme such that we actually rely on the last line of D for a run stop?

FidelisHawk · Dec 28, 2017

seedhawk":2lu2cgd2 said:
Maybe, just maybe, instead of applauding the stat and McD's play, we should be asking why a guy splitting his play time between both safety spots has this stat in his resume? Are other defenders not doing their jobs? Is our scheme such that we actually rely on the last line of D for a run stop?

I would probably agree that could be a legitimate concern IF Bobby Wagner didn’t lead the league in solo tackles.

Instead I’ll just conclude that, for a safety, McDougal is pretty good in run support

getnasty · Dec 28, 2017

seedhawk":1vxqiv5a said:
Maybe, just maybe, instead of applauding the stat and McD's play, we should be asking why a guy splitting his play time between both safety spots has this stat in his resume? Are other defenders not doing their jobs? Is our scheme such that we actually rely on the last line of D for a run stop?

Our Strong Saftey pretty much lives in the box on run down so not a real big surprise to see these numbers.

hawknation2017 · Dec 28, 2017

seedhawk":25bxn3y0 said:
Maybe, just maybe, instead of applauding the stat and McD's play, we should be asking why a guy splitting his play time between both safety spots has this stat in his resume? Are other defenders not doing their jobs? Is our scheme such that we actually rely on the last line of D for a run stop?

To a certain extent. Certainly the games without K.J. Wright and an injured Bobby Wagner have contributed to this. Richard Sherman was also the #1 corner in the league against the run. Michael Bennett is probably playing too many snaps to be really effective against the run.

vin.couve12 · Dec 28, 2017

This is all well and good. It's very good for a normal safety, in fact, but we have been severely hampered in sealing the edges that he's on. If it's Kam and it's a TE, pulling G, FB, or whoever, Kam pinches that edge off to the 98th percentile where they either have to turn back inside or they have to string it out to the sideline. We aren't getting that now and everyone knows it...and by that I mean teams that are facing us. We have been getting killed left and right in off tackle type plays.

McDougald has been good, but if Kam isn't ever going to play again I'd like to see a bigger, more aggressive athlete there. Yes, that is a lot to ask, but it's been a huge piece of the consistency of our run defense that has been really hit and miss since. And I say that knowing we have had games with no starting backers or a 50% injured backer or whatever. It just makes a massive difference.

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Either that or we need to actually invest in a real SLB that can kill off that edge like Kam can. McDougald is fine in coverage, but with Kam you're basically getting a 2 for 1 player where you can just rely on "some guy" to play SLB for roughly 45% of the snaps, if that. As far as the cap goes, it's a huge value. Again, if Kam can't ever come back, I think we really need to look at shoring up sealing that edge with another player besides McDougald, which means we'll either have to hit in the draft or we'll actually have to pay for two legitimate players rather than just Kam.

MontanaHawk05 · Dec 29, 2017

vin.couve12":uxop5u0y said:
This is all well and good. It's very good for a normal safety, in fact, but we have been severely hampered in sealing the edges that he's on. If it's Kam and it's a TE, pulling G, FB, or whoever, Kam pinches that edge off to the 98th percentile where they either have to turn back inside or they have to string it out to the sideline. We aren't getting that now and everyone knows it...and by that I mean teams that are facing us. We have been getting killed left and right in off tackle type plays.

McDougald has been good, but if Kam isn't ever going to play again I'd like to see a bigger, more aggressive athlete there. Yes, that is a lot to ask, but it's been a huge piece of the consistency of our run defense that has been really hit and miss since. And I say that knowing we have had games with no starting backers or a 50% injured backer or whatever. It just makes a massive difference.

EDIT:

Either that or we need to actually invest in a real SLB that can kill off that edge like Kam can. McDougald is fine in coverage, but with Kam you're basically getting a 2 for 1 player where you can just rely on "some guy" to play SLB for roughly 45% of the snaps, if that. As far as the cap goes, it's a huge value. Again, if Kam can't ever come back, I think we really need to look at shoring up sealing that edge with another player besides McDougald, which means we'll either have to hit in the draft or we'll actually have to pay for two legitimate players rather than just Kam.

Thanks for the actual X's and O's analysis. It's good to see someone appreciate Kam's worth.

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