JS' contract allows him to leave to be Green Bay's GM

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Not worth losing any sleep over it yet, but I do believe that one day John will leave us for his hometown and go to Green Bay. That will be a sad day.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports ... /23824777/

Schneider also has a clause in his contract that allows him to leave Seattle to become the Packers' GM. It's probably unnecessary, because coach Pete Carroll has final say in the Seahawks' football operations even if Schneider conducts the draft and drives the personnel moves for the 90-man roster. But the clause is a sign that running the Packers is Schneider's dream job.

However, it's not a given that the 43-year-old Schneider is next in line. For one, Murphy started with the Packers in December 2007 and Schneider left them in January 2010, so Murphy doesn't have as long a history with him as with several of the other candidates.

Also, Schneider works for one of the richest men in the world in Seahawks owner Paul Allen. As attractive as the Packers GM job is leaguewide because of the autonomy and organizational emphasis on football, the Seahawks also are attractive because of Allen's nearly unlimited resources. Schneider might not be persuaded by such things, but there's at least a chance that if the Packers showed interest, Allen could offer him a contract that would be difficult to turn down.
 

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[urltargetblank]http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports/nfl/packers/insidersblog/2014/07/30/thompson-signs-contract-extension/13367761/[/urltargetblank]

Thompson had 2 years left on his deal last off season and was signed to a multi-year extension. I don't think it's going to be an issue for quite some time.
 

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I bet when John took this job he never envisioned the staggering success he has had these first 5 years. He seems to have the perfect working relationship with both ownership and the head coach. As long as Paul Allen owns the team I don't see any reason John would want to leave to go to GB.

I will lose no sleep over this.
 

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IMO Pete and John are a package deal, which is why they keep structuring their contracts to expire at the same time.

Meaning whenever Pete decides to leave, that's when Schneider would more than likely leave as well. But they both know the situation they have here is 2nd to none, and are both being paid very well. So why would Schneider go back to GB and lose what he has here?
 

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I think JS really likes it in Seattle. He seems to be very happy here and seems to work great with Pete. Even if the Green Bay job opened up, I don't think it would be an easy decision for him to leave.
 

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People move away from Green Bay for professional reasons. They don't move back there.
 

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Seahawks1983":31899k6e said:
People move away from Green Bay for professional reasons. They don't move back there.

For the most part you're right, but in sports there's always the hometown heartstrings. So if the money's right players, coaches and GM's will move back to places that no one in their right mind would move back to.

i.e. Lebron..........and I think JS falls into this category. If the situation, control and money was right he'd probably love to go back home.
 

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John and Pete have something special in Seattle. They are credited with the cities first NFL title and building a team that could be as dominant as any in history. I don't see him moving back to GB as long as the talent and support are with him in Seattle.
Besides there isn't much to do in the Green Bay/Ashwaubenon/De Pere area except the Oneida casino, Brown County Arena and staring at views of paper mills along the Fox river. It's great to be near old friends and family but it could drive you nuts too.
 

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Missing_Clink":24jy0hkx said:
Not worth losing any sleep over it yet, but I do believe that one day John will leave us for his hometown and go to Green Bay. That will be a sad day.

http://www.packersnews.com/story/sports ... /23824777/

Schneider also has a clause in his contract that allows him to leave Seattle to become the Packers' GM. It's probably unnecessary, because coach Pete Carroll has final say in the Seahawks' football operations even if Schneider conducts the draft and drives the personnel moves for the 90-man roster. But the clause is a sign that running the Packers is Schneider's dream job.

However, it's not a given that the 43-year-old Schneider is next in line. For one, Murphy started with the Packers in December 2007 and Schneider left them in January 2010, so Murphy doesn't have as long a history with him as with several of the other candidates.

Also, Schneider works for one of the richest men in the world in Seahawks owner Paul Allen. As attractive as the Packers GM job is leaguewide because of the autonomy and organizational emphasis on football, the Seahawks also are attractive because of Allen's nearly unlimited resources. Schneider might not be persuaded by such things, but there's at least a chance that if the Packers showed interest, Allen could offer him a contract that would be difficult to turn down.
Richest owner in the NFL + no salary cap for GM's + Super Bowl success = JS going nowhere.
 

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Sgt. Largent":apf3i2oc said:
IMO Pete and John are a package deal, which is why they keep structuring their contracts to expire at the same time.

Meaning whenever Pete decides to leave, that's when Schneider would more than likely leave as well. But they both know the situation they have here is 2nd to none, and are both being paid very well. So why would Schneider go back to GB and lose what he has here?
You know 2 of Petes boys are on the Hawks staff,I'd almost bet when Pete is done that means one of them takes over and JS probaly gains more power.Nothing will really change much because the team Pete/John built won't stray from what got them this far.I can't see JS leaving when they are already thinking years down the road and that means more rings to come.GB will never outbid Paul Allen.
 

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IndyHawk":2igjob98 said:
Sgt. Largent":2igjob98 said:
IMO Pete and John are a package deal, which is why they keep structuring their contracts to expire at the same time.

Meaning whenever Pete decides to leave, that's when Schneider would more than likely leave as well. But they both know the situation they have here is 2nd to none, and are both being paid very well. So why would Schneider go back to GB and lose what he has here?
You know 2 of Petes boys are on the Hawks staff,I'd almost bet when Pete is done that means one of them takes over and JS probaly gains more power.Nothing will really change much because the team Pete/John built won't stray from what got them this far.I can't see JS leaving when they are already thinking years down the road and that means more rings to come.GB will never outbid Paul Allen.

I could definitely see Schneider wanting to leave if Pete's gone, even if he has more control and/or money.

Another question is would Allen want to give Schneider all the control if Pete leaves? As much as we love JS, and he deserves every accolade he's received, this is Pete's team, Pete's philosophies and Pete's got the last word on every single transaction from top to bottom.

So absolutely I could envision Schneider wanting to go back to GB, or even another franchise if Pete's gone. He'd still be young enough to want to try and build another winner with an owner and coach he admires or gels well with somewhere else.
 

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By the time Pete retires and by the time Thompson steps down, Aaron Rodgers will have either retired or be in the twilight of his career, and Wilson would probably still have some good years left. For that reason, it's hard for me to see it. JS has built up major equity in Seattle, but won't have nearly as much in Green Bay.
 

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For JS to have this written into his contract means it has value to him to have this option. Thomson's deal ends in 2018, which is only 3 years down the road. For those who don't see him making the move, we will just have to agree to disagree.

This has been brought up several times as a possibility, given John's affinity for his childhood team. As the article points out, there is no guarantee that Mark Murphy would even hire John since he isn't as connected to John as he is with current or more recent FO guys from the Packers. I could see young Wolf getting the nod but JS is only 43, so it isn't like he is at the twilight of his career. He has a good 20+ yrs left in the biz if he wants.

If I am a betting man, I say at some point he puts his name in the ring for the Packers job if given the chance.
 

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drdiags":3hakktv1 said:
For JS to have this written into his contract means it has value to him to have this option. Thomson's deal ends in 2018, which is only 3 years down the road. For those who don't see him making the move, we will just have to agree to disagree.

This has been brought up several times as a possibility, given John's affinity for his childhood team. As the article points out, there is no guarantee that Mark Murphy would even hire John since he isn't as connected to John as he is with current or more recent FO guys from the Packers. I could see young Wolf getting the nod but JS is only 43, so it isn't like he is at the twilight of his career. He has a good 20+ yrs left in the biz if he wants.

If I am a betting man, I say at some point he puts his name in the ring for the Packers job if given the chance.

I don't believe that the clause in his contract is Green Bay specific and seems to me to be just wishful thinking by Packer fans. Most NFL front office and coaching contracts allow for that person to leave if the new job would be considered a promotion. If ANY TEAM offered Schneider full control of roster and hiring of coaches, he would be free to leave.

Who the hell moves to Green Bay when any job outside of Cleveland is available?
 

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schneider is happy here. he said it himself on Brock and Salk and he seemed very genuine as others have said on this thread, it is rare to have the setup he has with Paul Allen and Pete Carroll. he won't leave this situation. he wants to win mmultiple world championships.
 

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John Schneider's son has autism. The care his son can receive in the Seattle area is probably as good as there is in the country, and the Schneider family is active in raising awareness and funds. I seriously doubt the care they could get in Green Bay will be anything near what is available in/around Seattle, and I doubt they would have as much impact in Green Bay raising awareness or funds. For that reason alone, I believe he's not going to go to Green Bay as soon as he has the opportunity.

But that is certainly not the only reason. He is part of something historic in Seattle, building a team basically from scratch into a consecutive Super Bowl team. No sentimental attachment to rural Wisconsin is going to trump that IMO. When he retires? Maybe then he'll go back to Green Bay, but I suspect even then he'll choose to remain in the Seattle area.


Sgt. Largent":23m6ezzr said:
As much as we love JS, and he deserves every accolade he's received, this is Pete's team, Pete's philosophies and Pete's got the last word on every single transaction from top to bottom.
This is true in the sense that Pete Carroll has the ultimate control over the final roster. But Pete is not directly involved in probably the majority of acquisitions -- that's what Schneider and the scouts are for. When we get guys from improbable places in for camp, Pete isn't the one doing the searching. JS does his best to supply Pete with the types of players he's looking for -- and in some cases, the actual player Pete is looking for (e.g., Marshawn Lynch). This is Pete's team, governed by Pete's philosophy, and Pete is the face of the franchise, but the team was built with players provided by John Schneider.
 

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kearly":3oivq17p said:
By the time Pete retires and by the time Thompson steps down, Aaron Rodgers will have either retired or be in the twilight of his career, and Wilson would probably still have some good years left. For that reason, it's hard for me to see it. JS has built up major equity in Seattle, but won't have nearly as much in Green Bay.

...yet the clause in his current contract remains, despite the success he's had with Pete and this team. Possibly there is a deeper reason, like his wife and his own ties to the GB area. The trump card to opt out for a specific team wouldn't be there otherwise.
 

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HawKnPeppa":1nvsj726 said:
The trump card to opt out for a specific team wouldn't be there otherwise.
Do you know that to be a fact? It's just a lot of hearsay for me until I can read how that clause is written.
 

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JonRud":1yd2ss88 said:
I bet when John took this job he never envisioned the staggering success he has had these first 5 years. He seems to have the perfect working relationship with both ownership and the head coach. As long as Paul Allen owns the team I don't see any reason John would want to leave to go to GB.

I will lose no sleep over this.

It all started for Schnider with Russell Wilson :)

When Russ came, Schnider went from 8-8 & 7-9 to a winning team & Superbowl ring.

Russ made Marshawn Lynch better. Marshawn has his best seasons with Wilson.

Even the defense has their best seasons when they got Wilson.

Schneider knows this secret to some people, so that is the reason he wants to make Russell Wilson the highest paid QB in the NFL.
 

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