Maxwell possibly seeking $10 Million Annually

iigakusei · Feb 20, 2015

https://twitter.com/TonyPauline/status/ ... 5228429312

WOW.

TAB420 · Feb 20, 2015

Don't let the door hit you, where the good lord split you.

HawkFan72 · Feb 20, 2015

If he doesn't work out a deal with the Hawks (for a lot less), I hope he gets it.

kidhawk · Feb 20, 2015

iigakusei":12121tcn said:
https://twitter.com/TonyPauline/status/568815605228429312

WOW.

If he's not going to stay in the legion of boom, then I don't blame him. He's one of the top and most sought after free agent cornerbacks in the league this off season. He will definitely spark a bidding war, and when that happens, someone almost always overpays.

Hasselbeck · Feb 20, 2015

Good for him. Go get your payday.

Hawkfan77 · Feb 20, 2015

That'd net us a 3rd round pick. Make that money Byron!

dontbelikethat · Feb 20, 2015

[tweet]https://twitter.com/TonyPauline/status/568833398170648576[/tweet]

Seahawk Sailor · Feb 20, 2015

He may be worth it. Have to say I'd prefer he stay with us for a good deal less than that, but he's a viable starting corner on any team in the league, and probably in the top half of 'em too. We've been really spoiled at that position of late. Come a long way since the days when Kelly Jennings scratched at the ankles of wide receivers as they jumped for the long ball.

Anonymous · Feb 20, 2015

Out of curiousity, what did Jennings make?

:les:

Basis4day · Feb 20, 2015

Davis Hsu did a write up last year when the Tate and Bennett signings were still up in the air. By his estimates, a hometown discount was at the most 15% less than your max offer elseware.

Not sure how much people were hoping he would discount himself to stay, but if hes getting offers like that he is gone.

kidhawk · Feb 20, 2015

HoustonHawk82":289z4okv said:
Out of curiousity, what did Jennings make?

:les:

[urltargetblank]http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cincinnati-bengals/kelly-jennings/[/urltargetblank]

Quick math = $2.775 million (Career)

Sgt. Largent · Feb 20, 2015

dontbelikethat":16223a0r said:
[tweet]https://twitter.com/TonyPauline/status/568833398170648576[/tweet]

Huh?

Eagles have even less cap space than we do, only 24 million. So they're gonna spend almost half of it on one CB?

SeaMeat · Feb 20, 2015

Maxwell? $10 Mil a year?

LMAO!!!!!! See ya!

kidhawk · Feb 20, 2015

Sgt. Largent":3a7lt8yi said:
dontbelikethat":3a7lt8yi said:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/TonyPauline/status/568833398170648576[/tweet]

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Huh?

Eagles have even less cap space than we do, only 24 million. So they're gonna spend almost half of it on one CB?

It's not current year that is the problem, it's future years for a top tier free agent like Maxwell. He'll want a long term contract. The dollars he's paid this year will mostly come in the form of a signing bonus which will be pro-rated over the term of the contract. It's the following years where the cap hits really come. They may have contracts expiring or have more flexibility in the upcoming years. This is why capology can be so confusing. Just because you look like you have low funds at the moment, doesn't mean you can't sign someone, and like us, having a decent amount of free money, doesn't mean we can afford to go get someone. We have a lot of money to spend in-house. Too many things to calculate to simply point at a one year cap and a large contract and say it does or doesn't work.

Hawkfan77 · Feb 20, 2015

kidhawk":2wkgach1 said:
Sgt. Largent":2wkgach1 said:

dontbelikethat":2wkgach1 said:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/TonyPauline/status/568833398170648576[/tweet]

Click to expand...

Huh?

Eagles have even less cap space than we do, only 24 million. So they're gonna spend almost half of it on one CB?

Click to expand...

It's not current year that is the problem, it's future years for a top tier free agent like Maxwell. He'll want a long term contract. The dollars he's paid this year will mostly come in the form of a signing bonus which will be pro-rated over the term of the contract. It's the following years where the cap hits really come. They may have contracts expiring or have more flexibility in the upcoming years. This is why capology can be so confusing. Just because you look like you have low funds at the moment, doesn't mean you can't sign someone, and like us, having a decent amount of free money, doesn't mean we can afford to go get someone. We have a lot of money to spend in-house. Too many things to calculate to simply point at a one year cap and a large contract and say it does or doesn't work.

This explains why the Redskins, who were always in cap hell, were able to sign big money free agents year after year

kidhawk · Feb 20, 2015

Hawkfan77":1ri74ivy said:
This explains why the Redskins, who were always in cap hell, were able to sign big money free agents year after year

That and the fact that the year it should have caught up to them was an "uncapped" year. The Redskins went against the NFL and worked contracts to take advantage of this during that time and were punished with loss of cap space in future years for it. They are past it now, but that was also a big part of it.

There really are a lot of nuances into working the contracts and the salary cap that the general public will never see and rarely hear mention of.

HawkAroundTheClock · Feb 20, 2015

Hawkfan77":il1c15ep said:
That'd net us a 3rd round pick. Make that money Byron!

Nice. Yet another way the Seahawks perpetuate success under Pete Carroll.

Coach up, talk up your coaches. They move upward and onward. You attract talented replacements.
Coach up, talk up your players. They move upward, get extensions, or move onward. You attract talented free agents and get more draft picks to replenish the ranks.

So simple. So genius.

DavidSeven · Feb 20, 2015

I'm sure that number will come down a bit. Wasn't Bennett also rumored at $10M last year? In any event, I think he'll get an inflated offer since demand for CBs is extremely high and supply is extremely low this year. I'd be surprised if SEA could justify paying him more than Bennett/Kam/Avril.

Hawkfan77 · Feb 20, 2015

kidhawk":1z0c09i6 said:
Hawkfan77":1z0c09i6 said:

This explains why the Redskins, who were always in cap hell, were able to sign big money free agents year after year

Click to expand...

That and the fact that the year it should have caught up to them was an "uncapped" year. The Redskins went against the NFL and worked contracts to take advantage of this during that time and were punished with loss of cap space in future years for it. They are past it now, but that was also a big part of it.

There really are a lot of nuances into working the contracts and the salary cap that the general public will never see and rarely hear mention of.

I remember reading an article with an unnamed GM and he quoted to basically say that the cap number was pretty useless and if you had good, smart people in your FO working on the cap you could basically sign whatever players you wanted to. It's all about number manipulation.

Sgt. Largent · Feb 20, 2015

kidhawk":2enf3mka said:
Sgt. Largent":2enf3mka said:

dontbelikethat":2enf3mka said:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/TonyPauline/status/568833398170648576[/tweet]

Click to expand...

Huh?

Eagles have even less cap space than we do, only 24 million. So they're gonna spend almost half of it on one CB?

Click to expand...

It's not current year that is the problem, it's future years for a top tier free agent like Maxwell. He'll want a long term contract. The dollars he's paid this year will mostly come in the form of a signing bonus which will be pro-rated over the term of the contract. It's the following years where the cap hits really come. They may have contracts expiring or have more flexibility in the upcoming years. This is why capology can be so confusing. Just because you look like you have low funds at the moment, doesn't mean you can't sign someone, and like us, having a decent amount of free money, doesn't mean we can afford to go get someone. We have a lot of money to spend in-house. Too many things to calculate to simply point at a one year cap and a large contract and say it does or doesn't work.

I understand how cap figures work, but unless you plan on making your team weaker by cutting a bunch of expensive stars and veterans in the next three years in order to afford expensive FA's now like Maxwell, it's still not prudent to spend half of your available cap space on one guy.

Also don't forget that the Eagles have to make a decision on Foles, as he's a UFA after next year like Russell. So if they don't get a promising QB in this draft they're going to have no choice but to give Foles a big extension.............maybe not a Wilson/Luck type extension, but at least a Kaepernick one.

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