Any cap numbers/projections for 2015?
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kidhawk
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The actual cap number won't be set by the league until some time in the off season
overthecap has teams listed with players who are signed by each year, so you can go here:
[urltargetblank]http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/seattle-seahawks[/urltargetblank]
and click on the 2015 tab and see which players are currently under contract. Count the highest 53 salaries. If there are less than 53, you will need to add a minimum salary x however many players you need to fill the 53 man roster, then from there, you can look through contracts and see who you believe will still be on the roster and make educated guesses. Also, be sure to add in the dead money.
overthecap has teams listed with players who are signed by each year, so you can go here:
[urltargetblank]http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/seattle-seahawks[/urltargetblank]
and click on the 2015 tab and see which players are currently under contract. Count the highest 53 salaries. If there are less than 53, you will need to add a minimum salary x however many players you need to fill the 53 man roster, then from there, you can look through contracts and see who you believe will still be on the roster and make educated guesses. Also, be sure to add in the dead money.
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KJ Wright has been a bum most of this year, and he can walk on or take a discount that is in concert with his play = Free?
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kidhawk
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Largent80":1zxhc582 said:
KJ is only making a little over a million dollars next year. Keeping him, even if KPL were to beat him out to start isn't a financial problem.
Wright really isn't all that bad, but he's definitely not a good ILB. He's better when he can play his weakside position and have a guy like Wagner out there who can cover his own territory.
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I haven't seen anything definitive via a quick Google search, and since Kidhawk is too lazy and inconsiderate to add all those numbers up from over-the-cap and make an accurate projection (keep in mind new TV deal should also add more money to the cap), I guess we'll just have to guess.
The Harvin trade will net us about an extra $5 million in space as well. Bottom line, I think we were already pretty comfortable with signing Russell to a $20 Million deal (not sure he's earning this year, but I won't win that argument at this point) and now we should have a little more to do some things as well. It isn't an estimate, but I think we have some money to spend.
Depending on how you look at it, a lot of our depth players getting extra time gives coaches a chance to evaluate who should stay or go. I personally think we'll see a blood bath involving guys who simply can't stay healthy and keep sticking around due to "potential" (e.g. Scruggs).
The Harvin trade will net us about an extra $5 million in space as well. Bottom line, I think we were already pretty comfortable with signing Russell to a $20 Million deal (not sure he's earning this year, but I won't win that argument at this point) and now we should have a little more to do some things as well. It isn't an estimate, but I think we have some money to spend.
Depending on how you look at it, a lot of our depth players getting extra time gives coaches a chance to evaluate who should stay or go. I personally think we'll see a blood bath involving guys who simply can't stay healthy and keep sticking around due to "potential" (e.g. Scruggs).
SomersetHawk
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We're set to go into next season with $106.1m as we stand. The cap's expected to be $140m in 2015 (but some guys think it could be $145m)
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/seattle-seahawks/
So, if Lynch really is to go then we'll save $7m and give ourselves $40.9m in cap room. Cutting Okung could save a further $5m but I'm thinking there's less chance of that happening than I did at the start of the season.
I'm guessing the priority will be to extend Russ and Bobby. Hopefully we'd be able to do that for around an extra $20m in 2015 (anticipating an increasingly growing cap over the coming years), they're already counting $2.3m against it next year as it stands.
We've got a fair few free agents we'll probably look to resign, I count 21 guys on our active roster who become free agents.
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/ ... -seahawks/
It's likely goodbye to Avril unless he takes a massive reduction, he's counting over $9m against the cap, and Carp's probably gone too ($2.3m against the cap this year). Byron, KJ, Kearse, Malcolm and Jeron are among the names that will probably demand more than they're on at the moment, and whilst we wont resign them all, I'd anticipate we keep at least two of them.
It's a good job we've got so many picks this year, and don't expect us to package them to move up, our cap situation is a little worse than most people think. Expect our resignings to total be around $8m. I've not plucked that out of thin air, I'm taking the average wage of our free agents (excluding Avril) and keeping 10 of them (Two of Byron/Jeron/Kearse/Malcolm/KJ, plus Lockette, Gresh, Shead, Scruggs, Morgan, Tukuafo, Schofield and Dobbs/Scruggs) with half of the money going to two of the bigger names. In this scenario we also lose TJack, Moeaki, Walters, Williams, Allen and Bradford from the current roster.
This ridiculously hypothetical scenario would leave us about $13m of room for 11 players. Lose about $5m of that on 8 draft picks/udfa's, take away two players (because only 51 count against the cap) and we're left with about $8m for a FA DE to replace Avril, or to keep Lynch.
And that is an utterly inaccurate hypothesis of how it will go down. There's no way we're only picking up one free agent, but I've slotted us to sign 10, so just fiddle about with that if you want. Plus, we're only cutting Lynch in this scenario too. Cutting a guy like McDaniel to save $3m is entirely possible, his dead money is low.
In summation, we better nail the draft and hope the cap's extended to $145m or that Wilson takes a discount (or both).
http://overthecap.com/salary-cap/seattle-seahawks/
So, if Lynch really is to go then we'll save $7m and give ourselves $40.9m in cap room. Cutting Okung could save a further $5m but I'm thinking there's less chance of that happening than I did at the start of the season.
I'm guessing the priority will be to extend Russ and Bobby. Hopefully we'd be able to do that for around an extra $20m in 2015 (anticipating an increasingly growing cap over the coming years), they're already counting $2.3m against it next year as it stands.
We've got a fair few free agents we'll probably look to resign, I count 21 guys on our active roster who become free agents.
http://www.spotrac.com/free-agents/nfl/ ... -seahawks/
It's likely goodbye to Avril unless he takes a massive reduction, he's counting over $9m against the cap, and Carp's probably gone too ($2.3m against the cap this year). Byron, KJ, Kearse, Malcolm and Jeron are among the names that will probably demand more than they're on at the moment, and whilst we wont resign them all, I'd anticipate we keep at least two of them.
It's a good job we've got so many picks this year, and don't expect us to package them to move up, our cap situation is a little worse than most people think. Expect our resignings to total be around $8m. I've not plucked that out of thin air, I'm taking the average wage of our free agents (excluding Avril) and keeping 10 of them (Two of Byron/Jeron/Kearse/Malcolm/KJ, plus Lockette, Gresh, Shead, Scruggs, Morgan, Tukuafo, Schofield and Dobbs/Scruggs) with half of the money going to two of the bigger names. In this scenario we also lose TJack, Moeaki, Walters, Williams, Allen and Bradford from the current roster.
This ridiculously hypothetical scenario would leave us about $13m of room for 11 players. Lose about $5m of that on 8 draft picks/udfa's, take away two players (because only 51 count against the cap) and we're left with about $8m for a FA DE to replace Avril, or to keep Lynch.
And that is an utterly inaccurate hypothesis of how it will go down. There's no way we're only picking up one free agent, but I've slotted us to sign 10, so just fiddle about with that if you want. Plus, we're only cutting Lynch in this scenario too. Cutting a guy like McDaniel to save $3m is entirely possible, his dead money is low.
In summation, we better nail the draft and hope the cap's extended to $145m or that Wilson takes a discount (or both).
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Best guesstimate is salary cap will be around $140m-$145m next year. Teams are allowed to carryover unused cap space from previous year. Seahawks are currently around $18m under the cap right now.....Seahawks project to have around $106 m committed to players next year.
Seahawks have approximately $50+m to sign everyone next year. Remember too that RW big contract will be an extension. No matter what he signs for only his $950k salary + a prorated amount of his signing bonus. He will probably only be around $10m against our cap next year.
JS and PC have a good plan in place.
Seahawks have approximately $50+m to sign everyone next year. Remember too that RW big contract will be an extension. No matter what he signs for only his $950k salary + a prorated amount of his signing bonus. He will probably only be around $10m against our cap next year.
JS and PC have a good plan in place.
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pehawk":2m8b456b said:
Well, hoping we can get Bobby and Russ on the books for less than the extra $20m in my scenario, plus a $145m cap, then we could keep Lynch and have $10m room for one or two FA signings.
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I'll definitely bookmark this topic though, and call myself out on just how disastrously wrong and stupid I was.
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pehawk":fm62zjrs said:
I'd completely missed McDaniel, cutting him could save $3m, whilst the dead money's only $625k, reworking Bane's contract is a possibility too.
Wonder if Wilson would take a smaller annual amount and a longer contract with appropriate guarantee. Something that isn't as big a hit each year and would allow other signings. Just thinking, as I don't keep up with the intricacies of contracts. Obviously would depend on John and Pete comfortable with being committed to Russell over a longer span.
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pehawk":w5p8d08h said:
Nah....There are just way too many hypotheticals right now. Anything anyone says is a guess. You can look and see who we have signed next year and do some math and figure we have somewhere between $35 and $45 million to sign free agents, sign our draft class and extend Wilson and Wagner. There will be guys who are cut (there always are), so we have to try to factor those guys in as well.
It's safe to assume that we won't be as flush in cash as some teams, but we'll have enough money to keep the core guys and sign a few free agents, but unless there is a significant bump in the cap, we probably won't get any A-list free agents.
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MysterMatt":34m43rv1 said:
You realize there is absolutely NO way to have an accurate number. Nobody...even Roger Goodell, knows what the actual cap number is for next season. We also have no idea who the team will cut in the off season. Everything is a guessing game at this point. It's pretty much pointless to try to put too much time into figuring it out right now because everything is still in flux.
As I said in another post, there are generalized guesses that can be made, but that's all WAG for now.
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lobohawk":3d2yx1jq said:
I could see Russell doing a 5-7 year longer deal, which means it'd be an escalating contract with a low cap hit the first 3-4 years..........but probably with quite a bit of guaranteed money in return.
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Yet another lazy and inconsiderate response. Thank goodness we have Somerset.kidhawk":vvp4rp8p said:
kidhawk
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MysterMatt":38qmg8zx said:
Of course, because when he says it's all just a guessing game right now, that's completely different than when I say it's all a guessing game :roll:
