TE Ed Dickson Signed - 3 Years Worth (up to) $14M

Jville · Mar 17, 2018

massari":26nzfg6h said:
Dickson is a nice add, but kinda curious why they went with the 30 year old instead of the 25 year old with upside?
http://www.nj.com/jets/index.ssf/2017/1 ... t_end.html

Seahawks went with the more mature player further along in his development to urgently reset their offense. To my knowledge, there is nothing blocking Austin Seferian-Jenkins from developing and eventually appearing in a Seahawk uniform at some point down the road.

CodeWarrior · Mar 18, 2018

Does anyone else get the sense the Seattle is currently a rudderless ship? This signing makes no sense to me. Hope I'm wrong.

TransGenderHawkFan · Mar 18, 2018

CodeWarrior":yalv0r3j said:
Does anyone else get the sense the Seattle is currently a rudderless ship? This signing makes no sense to me. Hope I'm wrong.

You hope that you are wrong that the signing makes no sense to you?

Uncle Si · Mar 18, 2018

CodeWarrior":1t0ctu4r said:
Does anyone else get the sense the Seattle is currently a rudderless ship? This signing makes no sense to me. Hope I'm wrong.

Team needs a TE... probably two. They just signed one.

What doesnt make sense... the player they chose to sign?

TransGenderHawkFan · Mar 18, 2018

Uncle Si":1c659zay said:
CodeWarrior":1c659zay said:

Does anyone else get the sense the Seattle is currently a rudderless ship? This signing makes no sense to me. Hope I'm wrong.

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Team needs a TE... probably two. They just signed one.

What doesnt make sense... the player they chose to sign?

Probably because it wasn't ASJ.

SoulfishHawk · Mar 19, 2018

Adding a good blocking TE is exactly what this team needed.

CodeWarrior · Mar 19, 2018

Uncle Si":3225yznr said:
CodeWarrior":3225yznr said:

Does anyone else get the sense the Seattle is currently a rudderless ship? This signing makes no sense to me. Hope I'm wrong.

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Team needs a TE... probably two. They just signed one.

What doesnt make sense... the player they chose to sign?

The player nor the terms.

Uncle Si · Mar 19, 2018

CodeWarrior":1uinq8wx said:
Uncle Si":1uinq8wx said:

CodeWarrior":1uinq8wx said:

Does anyone else get the sense the Seattle is currently a rudderless ship? This signing makes no sense to me. Hope I'm wrong.

Click to expand...

Team needs a TE... probably two. They just signed one.

What doesnt make sense... the player they chose to sign?

Click to expand...

The player nor the terms.

terms dont seem bad... glorified 1 year deal maybe a mill over.

whats wrong with the player?

fenderbender123 · Mar 19, 2018

I think the improvement in pass blocking will be beneficial.

I'm no expert, but it seemed like Jimmy Graham would miss or just make some half-assed contact on opposing pass rushers and then try to get open. That made it too easy for defenses to keep track of him and make sure he didn't slip free. So it never really worked. If we have a TE that can actually engage and hold off pass rushers for a few seconds, then he should have an easier time slipping free and getting open for a pass if Russ's initial options are covered.

And even if he doesn't make big plays as a receiver, this team needs better pass blocking. I like the idea of having a veteran TE who can recognize what the defense is doing and help out since the TE is basically an extra blocker. Better pass blocking = more time for Russ to use his legs and make good things happen. The past couple years, seems like opposing DEs are constantly collapsing the pocket in a hurry, leaving no time and no room for Russ to do anything.

But what I don't understand is why he isn't rated higher as a run blocker. Was it the scheme he was in? Was he not called upon to help the run game very often? Is he decent at certain types of run blocks and not others? He certainly was part of some good running offenses in Carolina, but that's all I know. We definitely do need to be able to run the ball first and foremost.

edogg23 · Mar 19, 2018

CodeWarrior":2h2udpfo said:
Does anyone else get the sense the Seattle is currently a rudderless ship? This signing makes no sense to me. Hope I'm wrong.

I for one am wondering what the heck they are doing. They are canceling out their Comp picks with these garbage signings as well. So its more like Dickson plus a 4th rounder plus his contract. Yuck.
They better pray that some of their unsigned players start signing contracts soon with other teams.

ivotuk · Mar 19, 2018

Graham was horrible last year. Sure he caught touchdown passes. But he caught nothing else. He was disinterested all year, never gave any effort between the 20s, and it was time to move on. He will do good in Green Bay because they have a pass heavy offense. But he was never a fit for Seattle.

Dickson will be a good blocking Tight End, and beneficial for our young guys.

Why people keep resorting to hyperbole on contracts. 14 million! OMG!

There's only one number that matters in a contract, every play knows that when they sign, it's the guaranteed number. Everything else, meaningless.

You see inflated numbers all the time. Kaepernik! 16 million per year!! (zero guaranteed).

Player X, highest paid player in the NFL! (unless you look at the guarantees). Makes for a great headline though. Lotta clicks.

chris98251 · Mar 19, 2018

edogg23":1gmfxuns said:
CodeWarrior":1gmfxuns said:

Does anyone else get the sense the Seattle is currently a rudderless ship? This signing makes no sense to me. Hope I'm wrong.

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I for one am wondering what the heck they are doing. They are canceling out their Comp picks with these garbage signings as well. So its more like Dickson plus a 4th rounder plus his contract. Yuck.
They better pray that some of their unsigned players start signing contracts soon with other teams.

Comp picks are nice but you need actual players, 7th and 6th round picks rarely make the team, 3rd round picks are saying you let a good player go or whiffed on a pick.

Since we trade back a lot we will have few high round comp picks anyway.

I would rather have players here that can play then boost my Madden score.

ivotuk · Mar 19, 2018

I think he'll pan out. Glad we passed on ASJ

"Seferian-Jenkins rebuilt his career with the Jets last season, although the results weren't necessarily glamorous.

The former Bucs draftee was essentially a catch-and-fall-down tight end, as he averaged just 7.1 yards per reception, the fewest among qualifying tight ends by more than a yard and a half.

There have been 419 tight end seasons with 50 targets or more since 2001, and in terms of yards per catch, Seferian-Jenkins' campaign ranks ... 418th.

Only Donald Lee's 2009 season is worse."

http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/2268 ... l-barnwell

KitsapGuy · Mar 19, 2018

[tweet]https://twitter.com/AaronWilson_NFL/status/975970009557106688[/tweet]

QuickLightning · Mar 19, 2018

fenderbender123":1aaoquos said:
But what I don't understand is why he isn't rated higher as a run blocker. Was it the scheme he was in? Was he not called upon to help the run game very often? Is he decent at certain types of run blocks and not others? He certainly was part of some good running offenses in Carolina, but that's all I know. We definitely do need to be able to run the ball first and foremost.

Quite the opposite actually. He was a TE after all... He only pass blocked about 6 snaps per game. He run blocked a shitload more, as that is generally a TEs main job. In the passing game, most TEs chip a rusher and try to get open or swing outside for a dump off.

Atradees · Mar 20, 2018

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-high ... hts-Week-5

I like in this highlight that Dickson not only catches the ball on the run extemely well but he has balance and fights for yards after contact. Too many times Graham was awkward and fell over as soon as he caught the ball. Graham was north of 10 million a year and I didnt see the value. This guy will be even better with A great QB.

original poster · Mar 20, 2018

I make those cap hits as follows -

2018 - $1,866,667
2019 - $5,433,332
2019 - $5,433,332

They may be slightly out depending on the exact incentives and if they're LTBE or NLTBE, but not by much.

mikeak · Mar 20, 2018

Let me tell you I would rather have had Mercedes Lewis

Known blocker and known for catching the ball as well...... consistently

Blitzer88 · Mar 20, 2018

mikeak":rw29rxrw said:
Let me tell you I would rather have had Mercedes Lewis

Known blocker and known for catching the ball as well...... consistently

Well Lewis was released just today so..........

RussWILSON3 · Mar 20, 2018

I'm a little confused why fans are looking at this signing negatively? Less than 5 mill per year, an actual TRADITIONAL TE. Something our offense has been missing since the departure of Zach Miller. . . If Ed does pan out as our starter, this signing has great value... In my opinion ! 8)

Also, look for us to draft a late round, athletic (Raw with high upside) TE for Dickson to mentor during their 1st year.

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