Starters not on the team next year predictions:

Best guesses, dicussion?

Kam Chancellor - retires due to neck injury
Blair Walsh - obvious reasons
Jeremy Lane - wants out
Eddie Lacy - didn't work out
Byron Maxwell - will pick up his replacement in the draft
Thomas Rawls - Injury prone
Sheldon Richardson - too much $$ for production levels
CJ Prosise - can't stay healthy
Malik McDowell (would have started) - Do we get a high compensatory pick if we cut him?
Germain Ifedi - penalties, production, temper

Purely from a cap perspective and not who I necessarily want to be cut, these guys make sense -

Richard Sherman - $11M cap saving
K.J Wright - $7.2M cap saving
Cliff Avril - $7.5M cap saving
Jeremy Lane - $4.75M cap saving
Jon Ryan - $2M cap saving
Neiko Thorpe - $1.85M cap saving
C.J Prosise - just under $0.5M cap saving
Nick Vannett - just under $0.5M cap saving
George Fant - $0.63M cap saving
DeAndre Elliott - $0.63M cap saving
Tre Madden - $0.63M cap saving
Tanner McEvoy - $0.63M cap saving
Jordan Roos - Just over $0.5M cap saving
David Moore - Just over $0.5M cap saving

KJ Wright
Jimmy Graham
Cliff Avril
Sheldon Richardson
Blair Walsh

original poster":38extz9m said:

Purely from a cap perspective and not who I necessarily want to be cut, these guys make sense -

Richard Sherman - $11M cap saving
K.J Wright - $7.2M cap saving
Cliff Avril - $7.5M cap saving
Jeremy Lane - $4.75M cap saving
Jon Ryan - $2M cap saving
Neiko Thorpe - $1.85M cap saving
C.J Prosise - just under $0.5M cap saving
Nick Vannett - just under $0.5M cap saving
George Fant - $0.63M cap saving
DeAndre Elliott - $0.63M cap saving
Tre Madden - $0.63M cap saving
Tanner McEvoy - $0.63M cap saving
Jordan Roos - Just over $0.5M cap saving
David Moore - Just over $0.5M cap saving

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I don’t see how cutting Fant, Vannnett, or Roos makes any sense.

CodeWarrior":1fspab9f said:

original poster":1fspab9f said:

Purely from a cap perspective and not who I necessarily want to be cut, these guys make sense -

Richard Sherman - $11M cap saving
K.J Wright - $7.2M cap saving
Cliff Avril - $7.5M cap saving
Jeremy Lane - $4.75M cap saving
Jon Ryan - $2M cap saving
Neiko Thorpe - $1.85M cap saving
C.J Prosise - just under $0.5M cap saving
Nick Vannett - just under $0.5M cap saving
George Fant - $0.63M cap saving
DeAndre Elliott - $0.63M cap saving
Tre Madden - $0.63M cap saving
Tanner McEvoy - $0.63M cap saving
Jordan Roos - Just over $0.5M cap saving
David Moore - Just over $0.5M cap saving

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I don’t see how cutting Fant, Vannnett, or Roos makes any sense.

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Not saying it does at all, just listing the players that have more of a cap saving than a cap hit.

Blair Walsh
Cliff Avril retires
Byron Maxwell
Jeremy Lane
Michael Wilhoite
Thomas Rawls/Eddie Lacy

original poster":n733ysh2 said:

CodeWarrior":n733ysh2 said:

original poster":n733ysh2 said:

Purely from a cap perspective and not who I necessarily want to be cut, these guys make sense -

Richard Sherman - $11M cap saving
K.J Wright - $7.2M cap saving
Cliff Avril - $7.5M cap saving
Jeremy Lane - $4.75M cap saving
Jon Ryan - $2M cap saving
Neiko Thorpe - $1.85M cap saving
C.J Prosise - just under $0.5M cap saving
Nick Vannett - just under $0.5M cap saving
George Fant - $0.63M cap saving
DeAndre Elliott - $0.63M cap saving
Tre Madden - $0.63M cap saving
Tanner McEvoy - $0.63M cap saving
Jordan Roos - Just over $0.5M cap saving
David Moore - Just over $0.5M cap saving

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I don’t see how cutting Fant, Vannnett, or Roos makes any sense.

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Not saying it does at all, just listing the players that have more of a cap saving than a cap hit.

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Ah, gotcha.

Also, I highly doubt Kam retires. Guy just got an extension he was fighting for. No way he just leaves that money on the table. He’ll find a way to linger if he can’t contribute.

Lacy
Rawls
Sherman
Lane
Ifedi
Graham
Walsh
Avril
Maxwell

MO Hawk":31re0xwl said:

Best guesses, dicussion?

Kam Chancellor - retires due to neck injury
Blair Walsh - obvious reasons
Jeremy Lane - wants out
Eddie Lacy - didn't work out
Byron Maxwell - will pick up his replacement in the draft
Thomas Rawls - Injury prone
Sheldon Richardson - too much $$ for production levels
CJ Prosise - can't stay healthy
Malik McDowell (would have started) - Do we get a high compensatory pick if we cut him?
Germain Ifedi - penalties, production, temper

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Sheldon has been clogging up the middle and has helped lighten the load for Bobby and the LB's

Lane is under contract, so him wanting out is moot.

CodeWarrior":1imyw6sj said:

original poster":1imyw6sj said:

CodeWarrior":1imyw6sj said:

original poster":1imyw6sj said:

Purely from a cap perspective and not who I necessarily want to be cut, these guys make sense -

Richard Sherman - $11M cap saving
K.J Wright - $7.2M cap saving
Cliff Avril - $7.5M cap saving
Jeremy Lane - $4.75M cap saving
Jon Ryan - $2M cap saving
Neiko Thorpe - $1.85M cap saving
C.J Prosise - just under $0.5M cap saving
Nick Vannett - just under $0.5M cap saving
George Fant - $0.63M cap saving
DeAndre Elliott - $0.63M cap saving
Tre Madden - $0.63M cap saving
Tanner McEvoy - $0.63M cap saving
Jordan Roos - Just over $0.5M cap saving
David Moore - Just over $0.5M cap saving

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I don’t see how cutting Fant, Vannnett, or Roos makes any sense.

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Not saying it does at all, just listing the players that have more of a cap saving than a cap hit.

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Ah, gotcha.

Also, I highly doubt Kam retires. Guy just got an extension he was fighting for. No way he just leaves that money on the table. He’ll find a way to linger if he can’t contribute.

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Yeah absolutely. I'd be keen to know where the league stands on Kam's injury without derailing the thread. Can he just stay on IR?

Lacy
Maxwell
Lane
Avril (retire)
Rawls
Kam (retire)
Bennett (Cut or Traded)
Richardson
Graham
Sherman (cut)
Carrol (retire)
Bevell (Set adrift on a barge)
Walsh
Cable

Resign Joeckel, Paul Richardson, and Willson. Partial rebuild with new coaching staff (for the most part, keeping Richard). Not sure Bennett has much trade value, despite his level of talent, other teams might not be willing to take on his baggage. Go after a free agent like Trumaine Johnson, Vontae Davis or Malcolm Butle to replace Sherman. If Ezekiel Ansah is available, try to get him. The price on Tyler Eifert might be kind of low, due to his injury history.

This team need to hit the reset switch but having Wilson at QB, we don't need a total rebuild and hopefully we'll be back in the playoffs in 2 years.

I see absolutely no reason that they can't be right back in the playoffs next year. Don't think that's homerism in the slightest, either.

Time to get young and cheap again.

-Defense-
Bennett
Avril
Sheldon Richardson (the dudes gonna want a huge contract that hes just not worth, terrible value)
Kam (only if he retires due to injury)
Lane
Maxwell

I think we keep Sherman as long as he heals properly from his injury. Hes never been a guy that relies on his athleticism because hes not very athletic. This means his play wont be falling off as he gets older.

-Offense-
Lacy
Luke Joeckel
Oday Aboushi
CJ procise
Rawls
Paul Richardson
Graham
Luke Willson (if he wants to sign for cheap again I take him)

-Special teams-
Walsh
Ryan

Eddie Lacey
Richard Sherman
Michael Bennett
Jimmy Graham
Paul Richardson
Thomas Rawls
Jeremy Lane
CJ Procise

Wenhawk":1ys8foxj said:

Eddie Lacey
Richard Sherman
Michael Bennett
Jimmy Graham
Paul Richardson
Thomas Rawls
Jeremy Lane
CJ Procise

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Ill add
Aboushi (sp?)
Kam
Avril
Wilhouite
Joeckel

I expect them to go through a reshuffle like they did when they first got here

Wenhawk":2wut69l7 said:

Eddie Lacey
Richard Sherman
Michael Bennett
Jimmy Graham
Paul Richardson
Thomas Rawls
Jeremy Lane
CJ Procise

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Lacy
Walsh
Bennett
Graham
Lane
Joeckel
Rawls

Kam signing was awful, and I think Sherman may be gone because of it.

Hawk_Nation":36fpjl10 said:

Wenhawk":36fpjl10 said:

Eddie Lacey
Richard Sherman
Michael Bennett
Jimmy Graham
Paul Richardson
Thomas Rawls
Jeremy Lane
CJ Procise

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Ill add
Aboushi (sp?)
Kam
Avril
Wilhouite
Joeckel

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I could see them keeping Sherman. Isn't his contract up at the end of next season? And maybe Prosise too. Not that I want him here, I don't. But I can see him getting one more chance to prove himself.

Are you adding Kam and Cliff as release candidates or retire candidates?

Prosise probably gets one more year.... his cap savings vs. his cost isn't great........


An interesting guy to look at when just looking at dollars is KJ Wright, probably will get an extension of some kind, but he has 2018 remaining with a cap savings of like 7 mil with 1/2 mil in dead money.... Almost the same as Avril's

Kam has the team by the balls........ it makes no sense money wise for Kam to retire. Team will have to cut him and eat a bunch of $$$$$

The one guy I see them eating salary on is Bennett. Production does not equal the cancer he is....

Thepeelsessions":3vfxaxji said:

Hawk_Nation":3vfxaxji said:

Wenhawk":3vfxaxji said:

Eddie Lacey
Richard Sherman
Michael Bennett
Jimmy Graham
Paul Richardson
Thomas Rawls
Jeremy Lane
CJ Procise

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Ill add
Aboushi (sp?)
Kam
Avril
Wilhouite
Joeckel

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I could see them keeping Sherman. Isn't his contract up at the end of next season? And maybe Prosise too. Not that I want him here, I don't. But I can see him getting one more chance to prove himself.

Are you adding Kam and Cliff as release candidates or retire candidates?

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I think we are over a barrel any way you look at it with Kam due to his injury clause. As for Avril, I bet he just retires.