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  • SpokaneHawks wrote:I'm not sure why some fans think Maxwell is some sort of savior? This guy single handedly cost us games while he was here last. There's is no better example in the league of a player benefiting from the players around him and having a Superbowl victory handed to him! He has proven that he is no commodity by the trajectory of his career after Seattle. He parlayed his success in Seattle to big time money elsewhere but proved it was undeserving! If he was just brought back for depth, fine, but stud corner? Not a chance! Strange to me that so many of you forgot the OG LOB was Browner, Sherm, Earl, and Kam. Physicality from Kam and Browner, punctuated by speed and power from Earl, and length, skill, and swag from Sherm. The small pieces that changed since have worked but it can never be replicated and now that a piece is gone for the season we are as done as burnt toast!


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    SpokaneHawks wrote:I'm not sure why some fans think Maxwell is some sort of savior? This guy single handedly cost us games while he was here last. There's is no better example in the league of a player benefiting from the players around him and having a Superbowl victory handed to him! He has proven that he is no commodity by the trajectory of his career after Seattle. He parlayed his success in Seattle to big time money elsewhere but proved it was undeserving! If he was just brought back for depth, fine, but stud corner? Not a chance! Strange to me that so many of you forgot the OG LOB was Browner, Sherm, Earl, and Kam. Physicality from Kam and Browner, punctuated by speed and power from Earl, and length, skill, and swag from Sherm. The small pieces that changed since have worked but it can never be replicated and now that a piece is gone for the season we are as done as burnt toast!


    Not sure I remember those. Could you be specific?


    or where people called him a savior...
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  • Uncle Si wrote:
    seahawkfreak wrote:
    SpokaneHawks wrote:I'm not sure why some fans think Maxwell is some sort of savior? This guy single handedly cost us games while he was here last. There's is no better example in the league of a player benefiting from the players around him and having a Superbowl victory handed to him! He has proven that he is no commodity by the trajectory of his career after Seattle. He parlayed his success in Seattle to big time money elsewhere but proved it was undeserving! If he was just brought back for depth, fine, but stud corner? Not a chance! Strange to me that so many of you forgot the OG LOB was Browner, Sherm, Earl, and Kam. Physicality from Kam and Browner, punctuated by speed and power from Earl, and length, skill, and swag from Sherm. The small pieces that changed since have worked but it can never be replicated and now that a piece is gone for the season we are as done as burnt toast!


    Not sure I remember those. Could you be specific?


    or where people called him a savior...

    Twitter much? LOL, people been calling for him for a few weeks and before Sherm was out I just didn't get it. Look a little harder, they're out there.
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  • seahawkfreak wrote:
    SpokaneHawks wrote:I'm not sure why some fans think Maxwell is some sort of savior? This guy single handedly cost us games while he was here last. There's is no better example in the league of a player benefiting from the players around him and having a Superbowl victory handed to him! He has proven that he is no commodity by the trajectory of his career after Seattle. He parlayed his success in Seattle to big time money elsewhere but proved it was undeserving! If he was just brought back for depth, fine, but stud corner? Not a chance! Strange to me that so many of you forgot the OG LOB was Browner, Sherm, Earl, and Kam. Physicality from Kam and Browner, punctuated by speed and power from Earl, and length, skill, and swag from Sherm. The small pieces that changed since have worked but it can never be replicated and now that a piece is gone for the season we are as done as burnt toast!


    Not sure I remember those. Could you be specific?


    I'm not about to go back through YouTube to find the games I thought he cost us but, yes I remember his flappy sleeves flailing around helplessly as receivers were catching t.d.s. I mean look at the guy with his oversized, crooked, I'll fitting helmet and long floppy sleeves. I can guarantee you that I'm not the only one thatt fills this way either because I remember quite a few calling for his head on this very site! Time will tell, but I just don't getg some fans holding onto the past. Maxwell was certainly a piece of our greatest years but he definitely wasn't the main piece! That's all I'm saying.
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  • SpokaneHawks wrote:
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    SpokaneHawks wrote:I'm not sure why some fans think Maxwell is some sort of savior? This guy single handedly cost us games while he was here last. There's is no better example in the league of a player benefiting from the players around him and having a Superbowl victory handed to him! He has proven that he is no commodity by the trajectory of his career after Seattle. He parlayed his success in Seattle to big time money elsewhere but proved it was undeserving! If he was just brought back for depth, fine, but stud corner? Not a chance! Strange to me that so many of you forgot the OG LOB was Browner, Sherm, Earl, and Kam. Physicality from Kam and Browner, punctuated by speed and power from Earl, and length, skill, and swag from Sherm. The small pieces that changed since have worked but it can never be replicated and now that a piece is gone for the season we are as done as burnt toast!


    Not sure I remember those. Could you be specific?


    I'm not about to go back through YouTube to find the games I thought he cost us but, yes I remember his flappy sleeves flailing around helplessly as receivers were catching t.d.s. I mean look at the guy with his oversized, crooked, I'll fitting helmet and long floppy sleeves. I can guarantee you that I'm not the only one thatt fills this way either because I remember quite a few calling for his head on this very site! Time will tell, but I just don't getg some fans holding onto the past. Maxwell was certainly a piece of our greatest years but he definitely wasn't the main piece! That's all I'm saying.

    What better option was there than maxwell? You are greatly overexageratting how bad he was, he was actually pretty solid. Remember the NFC game against green bay? He made a crucial pick in that game that we probably wouldnt have won without.

    Thats mister flappy sleeves saving the day, he also made a great pass break up on jordy in the same game. You know how lucky the seahawks are that he was available just as sherman went down? We get a guy who knows the system and played well in it. Thats pretty good considering we lost sherman.
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  • RussB wrote:
    SpokaneHawks wrote:
    seahawkfreak wrote:
    SpokaneHawks wrote:I'm not sure why some fans think Maxwell is some sort of savior? This guy single handedly cost us games while he was here last. There's is no better example in the league of a player benefiting from the players around him and having a Superbowl victory handed to him! He has proven that he is no commodity by the trajectory of his career after Seattle. He parlayed his success in Seattle to big time money elsewhere but proved it was undeserving! If he was just brought back for depth, fine, but stud corner? Not a chance! Strange to me that so many of you forgot the OG LOB was Browner, Sherm, Earl, and Kam. Physicality from Kam and Browner, punctuated by speed and power from Earl, and length, skill, and swag from Sherm. The small pieces that changed since have worked but it can never be replicated and now that a piece is gone for the season we are as done as burnt toast!


    Not sure I remember those. Could you be specific?


    I'm not about to go back through YouTube to find the games I thought he cost us but, yes I remember his flappy sleeves flailing around helplessly as receivers were catching t.d.s. I mean look at the guy with his oversized, crooked, I'll fitting helmet and long floppy sleeves. I can guarantee you that I'm not the only one thatt fills this way either because I remember quite a few calling for his head on this very site! Time will tell, but I just don't getg some fans holding onto the past. Maxwell was certainly a piece of our greatest years but he definitely wasn't the main piece! That's all I'm saying.

    What better option was there than maxwell? You are greatly overexageratting how bad he was, he was actually pretty solid. Remember the NFC game against green bay? He made a crucial pick in that game that we probably wouldnt have won without.

    Thats mister flappy sleeves saving the day, he also made a great pass break up on jordy in the same game. You know how lucky the seahawks are that he was available just as sherman went down? We get a guy who knows the system and played well in it. Thats pretty good considering we lost sherman.


    Absolutely. And as Massari and others have pointed out, Maxwell was actually a very solid CB with the Dolphins. To get a guy who is not only good ... but who honestly knows our system and could (in theory) step in and start right away?!? The very fact that a guy like that is available is fairly shocking to me, quite frankly. I couldn't agree more.
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  • RussB wrote:What better option was there than maxwell? .


    None.

    There is no DB FA right now that is;

    1. Good
    2. Going to come in here, learn the schemes and techniques and hit the ground running

    What, you gonna bring in a old ass Revis or pain in the ass overrated malcontent Cromartie? If Maxwell can just play at 75% of his old self, we should be OK as long as Earl stays healthy and Griffin plays well.
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  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    RussB wrote:What better option was there than maxwell? .


    None.

    There is no DB FA right now that is;

    1. Good
    2. Going to come in here, learn the schemes and techniques and hit the ground running

    What, you gonna bring in a old ass Revis or pain in the ass overrated malcontent Cromartie? If Maxwell can just play at 75% of his old self, we should be OK as long as Earl stays healthy and Griffin plays well.


    Word. My stance exactly.
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  • Maxwell got a lot of PI and also took a lot of chances on Picks, Earl covered when he missed, that's what he parlayed into a nice contract.
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  • SpokaneHawks wrote:
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    SpokaneHawks wrote:I'm not sure why some fans think Maxwell is some sort of savior? This guy single handedly cost us games while he was here last. There's is no better example in the league of a player benefiting from the players around him and having a Superbowl victory handed to him! He has proven that he is no commodity by the trajectory of his career after Seattle. He parlayed his success in Seattle to big time money elsewhere but proved it was undeserving! If he was just brought back for depth, fine, but stud corner? Not a chance! Strange to me that so many of you forgot the OG LOB was Browner, Sherm, Earl, and Kam. Physicality from Kam and Browner, punctuated by speed and power from Earl, and length, skill, and swag from Sherm. The small pieces that changed since have worked but it can never be replicated and now that a piece is gone for the season we are as done as burnt toast!


    Not sure I remember those. Could you be specific?


    I'm not about to go back through YouTube to find the games I thought he cost us but, yes I remember his flappy sleeves flailing around helplessly as receivers were catching t.d.s. I mean look at the guy with his oversized, crooked, I'll fitting helmet and long floppy sleeves. I can guarantee you that I'm not the only one thatt fills this way either because I remember quite a few calling for his head on this very site! Time will tell, but I just don't getg some fans holding onto the past. Maxwell was certainly a piece of our greatest years but he definitely wasn't the main piece! That's all I'm saying.


    I can think of some tough plays that didn't go his way (AZ game winning TD in 2013 or 2014 at the Clink for one, but that was just a hell of a play by Palmer) but Maxwell, was a legit CB2 in his time here. When Browner and Thurmond were suspended he stepped in and never relinquished his spot after that. We haven't had anywhere near the level of CB2 play since he left. Personally, I loved him. When I think back on his time here, my favorite play of his was in the NFCCG against the niners. He got called for a DPI and complained, then they showed the replay and he just ragdolled crabtree, I think, at the top of his route. Just picked him up and threw him to the ground. I loved that.
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  • This was pretty much the only guy on the street we could have signed that knows the system. I joked earlier about Cary Williams but thats exactly why the only move that made sense was Maxwell or a guy off our practice squad (or a practice squad) with Seahawk experience.

    I still don't think this keeps our Super Bowl chances afloat, but its the only move they could have made and I'm happy they did it.
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  • Hawkscanner wrote:The very fact that a guy like that is available is fairly shocking to me, quite frankly. I couldn't agree more.


    Shouldn't shock anyone. Once a Seahawk DB leaves here their career goes to crap, save for Brandon Browner's one play of glory in SB49 (thanks Bev)

    Maxwell is a guy that fits our system exceptionally well, but not many others. That's why he failed so miserably in Philadelphia.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:This was pretty much the only guy on the street we could have signed that knows the system. I joked earlier about Cary Williams but thats exactly why the only move that made sense was Maxwell or a guy off our practice squad (or a practice squad) with Seahawk experience.

    I still don't think this keeps our Super Bowl chances afloat, but its the only move they could have made and I'm happy they did it.

    There has been worse CB tandems than maxwell and shaq in the superbowl.
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  • OK, I can admit that I understand everyone's point about him being the best option for us right now. All I'm saying is that, IMO, he was more of a success by system guy. But, to the posters saying there have been worse CB tandems in the Superbowl...........not with an offense like ours!
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  • SpokaneHawks wrote:OK, I can admit that I understand everyone's point about him being the best option for us right now. All I'm saying is that, IMO, he was more of a success by system guy. But, to the posters saying there have been worse CB tandems in the Superbowl...........not with an offense like ours!

    Well if maxwell was just good in our system. I guess hes going to be good again because he is in fact in the same system once again. I honestly feel like he will prove the haters wrong and be solid.
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    Hasselbeck wrote:This was pretty much the only guy on the street we could have signed that knows the system. I joked earlier about Cary Williams but thats exactly why the only move that made sense was Maxwell or a guy off our practice squad (or a practice squad) with Seahawk experience.

    I still don't think this keeps our Super Bowl chances afloat, but its the only move they could have made and I'm happy they did it.

    There has been worse CB tandems than maxwell and shaq in the superbowl.


    Yeah, they were on teams with offenses and a running game.
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  • Hawk_Nation wrote:In a perfect world, we could sign Max to a 2 year deal. A vet minimum $775k deal this year, and a modest salary for next year. Let him and Lane duke it out the rest of the season and move forward with the best option. Shead potentially could be gone next season, so we need options.

    Hopefully Sherm is back by week one next year, but extra depth is always nice.


    From what I understand, Shead was on PUP after week 8 so we would be able to get him back next year at his salary this year. So we'll have him for one more year for cheap.
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  • Savior? No. However...consider our secondary's state of affairs if Lane had passed his physical and was with Houston, and B-Max decided to sign with someone else.
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:Savior? No. However...consider our secondary's state of affairs if Lane had passed his physical and was with Houston, and B-Max decided to sign with someone else.

    Doesnt bare thinking about,particularly with Matt and Julio coming to town.
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  • KitsapGuy wrote:

    Have a couple fans in my family that like Maxwell (dolphins fans). Not really a good sample but for the most part the fans like him. They like his game play. (brother in corp. and disappointed he got let go.)
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One interesting stat...
Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:42 pm
  • Super Bowl appearances in the Pete Carroll era without Bryon Maxwell on the team: 0

    Everybody needs to chill until we ACTUALLY see what the team looks like without Sherm.
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Re: One interesting stat...
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  • jdemps wrote:Super Bowl appearances in the Pete Carroll era without Bryon Maxwell on the team: 0

    Everybody needs to chill until we ACTUALLY see what the team looks like without Sherm.


    Stats are always fun....games won without Richard Sherman since his first start: 0

    Now, with that said, I do agree, we should all let this play out over the next few games and see what happens. We are still in the thick of things right now and I for one am not giving up on us by a long shot.
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Re: One interesting stat...
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    Stats are always fun....games won without Richard Sherman since his first start: 0


    Games lost without Sherman: 0
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Re: One interesting stat...
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  • Serious question, is jdemps one of the Browns ‘stat guys’?
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Re: One interesting stat...
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  • Coug_Hawk08 wrote:Serious question, is jdemps one of the Browns ‘stat guys’?


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Re: One interesting stat...
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  • Feel like we have a Byron Maxwell thread
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Re: One interesting stat...
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  • Now for the lesson on the difference between Correlation and Causation.....
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Re: One interesting stat...
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  • HawkerD wrote:Now for the lesson on the difference between Correlation and Causation.....




    ....and just how many posters do you expect to find here that have an English college degree? It appears that Statisticians are a dime a dozen.
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