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Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:55 am
  • I don't have an insider account, but luckily, they posted the entirety of their #1 future power rank pick for the next 3 years. It's us. Whiners are 3rd. Someone should casually leave this over at the 'zone...

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Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:00 am
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Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:13 am
  • Interesting idea. Id do
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Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:08 am
  • oasis wrote:Interesting idea. Id do
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    1 of the 5 categories is QB, so Rams........
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Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:15 am
  • jdemps wrote:
    oasis wrote:Interesting idea. Id do
    1 Seahawks
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    3 Rams


    1 of the 5 categories is QB, so Rams........


    You suggest the Rams haven't a capable QB. I'm not so certain.
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Re: Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 9:48 am
  • HawkWow wrote:
    jdemps wrote:
    oasis wrote:Interesting idea. Id do
    1 Seahawks
    2 49ers
    3 Rams


    1 of the 5 categories is QB, so Rams........


    You suggest the Rams haven't a capable QB. I'm not so certain.


    When will you be certain? 4 years is not enough?
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Re: Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:04 am
  • Cartire wrote:
    HawkWow wrote:
    jdemps wrote:
    oasis wrote:Interesting idea. Id do
    1 Seahawks
    2 49ers
    3 Rams


    1 of the 5 categories is QB, so Rams........


    You suggest the Rams haven't a capable QB. I'm not so certain.


    When will you be certain? 4 years is not enough?


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Re: Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:16 am
  • Cartire wrote:
    HawkWow wrote:
    jdemps wrote:
    oasis wrote:Interesting idea. Id do
    1 Seahawks
    2 49ers
    3 Rams


    1 of the 5 categories is QB, so Rams........


    You suggest the Rams haven't a capable QB. I'm not so certain.


    When will you be certain? 4 years is not enough?


    Like you my man, I am certain the Rams lacked a QB the last 4 years. But I'm looking at the next 4. I don't need to tell you that Bradford looked damn potent prior to his most recent injury. I agree with your sentiment that odds are against him ever being 100%, but until last year, the odds have never been friendly to our Hawks. Put a legit QB at the helm of that Ram team and ..well, we all know what that could turn into, especially with the addition of Greg Robinson. He alone will make life healthier for Ram's QBs as the Rams are sure to have a killer run game in 14.
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Re: Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:21 am
  • Cartire wrote:
    HawkWow wrote:
    jdemps wrote:
    oasis wrote:Interesting idea. Id do
    1 Seahawks
    2 49ers
    3 Rams


    1 of the 5 categories is QB, so Rams........


    You suggest the Rams haven't a capable QB. I'm not so certain.


    When will you be certain? 4 years is not enough?


    Looked pretty good last year until he got injured (again).
    Rich Gannon was in the league for 10 years before he came good, and Bradford is better than Gannon was in each of those 4 years.
    Give the Rams an O-Line (and they've made a start on that) and keep him upright and he could be dangerous. Certainly moreso than Carson Palmer, and the Cardinals almost made the playoffs last year
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Re: Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:27 am
  • ^ Like I keep telling 9er fans: quit worrying about us, it's the Rams that will put you in 3rd place..not us.
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Re: Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 2:51 pm
  • I think the Browns are the most likely candidate to be the next Carolina Panthers. Maybe not this season, but sometime in the next three years I see them winning the NFC North. Good defensive coach taking over one of the AFC's most talented defense, and they've added some nice players at RB. And then you have the powerball ticket with Manziel.

    The Rams remind me a lot of the 90s Seahawks. Good defense, bad offense, brutal division. They've now gone over a decade since their last winning season.

    Bradford is a quality backup who's statistics and traits are strikingly similar to Christian Ponder and Ryan Fitzpatrick. Imagine the Rams with even a 2nd tier QB like Big Ben or Tony Romo. They'd probably win 11 games.

    Then again, maybe not. Their pass rush is probably the best in the NFL, but their defense is a bit overrated. It's top seven in DVOA which is great, but the Rams allowed 364 points last year, that's roughly 60% more points than Seattle gave up. And despite some huge blowout wins, the Rams still finished with a negative point differential last season. Seattle's +/- was 202 points better than the Rams last season.
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Re: Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 3:19 pm
  • I feel like Bradford's game plays right into Seattle's strengths. Bradford is a checkdown guy who throws those shorter routes that our LBs and SS can punish. I would need to look at the numbers, but my hunch is that he doesn't throw the longer routes as well or as often as he should, and that is the way to beat the Seahawks in the passing game.

    The Rams went out and got Austin and Bailey. Those are speedier WRs that I think our bigger CBs have more problems containing. However, if Bradford won't go deep to them, that is all moot. Having Zac Stacy to help open up the field with the run game is great, and having speedy, smaller WRs that can open the top of a defense is great, but Bradford is single-handedly holding that offense back from being a threat.

    If the Rams had a QB with a big arm that liked to air it out, I would be WAY more worried about them. WAY WAY WAY more worried. Still, they are good enough to win a defensive slugfest the way ARZ did when they came here last year, but Bradford is the difference for them between 8-8 and 11-5 in my view.
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Re: Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:58 pm
  • The niners had their opportunity and blew it. They'll need a decade of top 10 picks again before they get another opportunity. They start their freefall this year.
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Re: Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:01 pm
  • The niners had their opportunity and blew it. They'll need a decade of top 10 picks again before they get another opportunity. They start their freefall this year.
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Re: Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:20 pm
  • rideaducati wrote:The niners had their opportunity and blew it. They'll need a decade of top 10 picks again before they get another opportunity. They start their freefall this year.


    rideaducati wrote:The niners had their opportunity and blew it. They'll need a decade of top 10 picks again before they get another opportunity. They start their freefall this year.


    So true, it needed to be posted twice.

    EDIT: That was weird. I quoted your post, and when i posted, it said "Educational" was the original poster. I edited it out, but that was quite weird.
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Re: Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:35 pm
  • Seahawks under PC / JS Complacent? I don't think so.

    The dilemma: This team's biggest obstacle to sustained success for at least the next two years is going to be complacency.
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Re: Future power ranks
Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:28 pm
  • lsheldon wrote:Seahawks under PC / JS Complacent? I don't think so.

    The dilemma: This team's biggest obstacle to sustained success for at least the next two years is going to be complacency.


    Yeah, and with the 2nd and 3rd string talent we have trying to take a starting role from the veterans? Not happening.

    "Opening game is only a few days away, and the rookie/red shirt recruits of the World Champion Seattle Seahawks are salty. They are ready to eat their own guts and ask for seconds. The coaches are proud to see that we are growing beyond their control. The Seahawks does not want robots. The Seahawks wants killers. The Seahawks wants to build indestructible men, men without fear."

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Re: Future power ranks
Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:17 am
  • Trenchbroom wrote:
    lsheldon wrote:Seahawks under PC / JS Complacent? I don't think so.

    The dilemma: This team's biggest obstacle to sustained success for at least the next two years is going to be complacency.


    Yeah, and with the 2nd and 3rd string talent we have trying to take a starting role from the veterans? Not happening.

    "Opening game is only a few days away, and the rookie/red shirt recruits of the World Champion Seattle Seahawks are salty. They are ready to eat their own guts and ask for seconds. The coaches are proud to see that we are growing beyond their control. The Seahawks does not want robots. The Seahawks wants killers. The Seahawks wants to build indestructible men, men without fear."

    ---Kiero Small


    When was this quote? What was the context?

    Im fascinated by it.
    hawksincebirth wrote:So Russell has leverage but marshawn doesn't ? I thought its next man up. Hey we got t jack and bj Daniels right ??
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:43 am
  • Cartire wrote:
    Trenchbroom wrote:
    lsheldon wrote:Seahawks under PC / JS Complacent? I don't think so.

    The dilemma: This team's biggest obstacle to sustained success for at least the next two years is going to be complacency.


    Yeah, and with the 2nd and 3rd string talent we have trying to take a starting role from the veterans? Not happening.

    "Opening game is only a few days away, and the rookie/red shirt recruits of the World Champion Seattle Seahawks are salty. They are ready to eat their own guts and ask for seconds. The coaches are proud to see that we are growing beyond their control. The Seahawks does not want robots. The Seahawks wants killers. The Seahawks wants to build indestructible men, men without fear."

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    When was this quote? What was the context?

    Im fascinated by it.


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Re: Future power ranks
Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:53 am
  • hawknation2014 wrote:
    Cartire wrote:
    Trenchbroom wrote:
    lsheldon wrote:Seahawks under PC / JS Complacent? I don't think so.



    Yeah, and with the 2nd and 3rd string talent we have trying to take a starting role from the veterans? Not happening.

    "Opening game is only a few days away, and the rookie/red shirt recruits of the World Champion Seattle Seahawks are salty. They are ready to eat their own guts and ask for seconds. The coaches are proud to see that we are growing beyond their control. The Seahawks does not want robots. The Seahawks wants killers. The Seahawks wants to build indestructible men, men without fear."

    ---Kiero Small


    When was this quote? What was the context?

    Im fascinated by it.


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    Ahhhhh yes. I see now. It had a lot of familiarity, I couldnt figure it out. I thought Small actually said those words. It would have been amazing.
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Re: Future power ranks
Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:11 am
  • HawkWow wrote:
    jdemps wrote:
    oasis wrote:Interesting idea. Id do
    1 Seahawks
    2 49ers
    3 Rams


    1 of the 5 categories is QB, so Rams........


    You suggest the Rams haven't a capable QB. I'm not so certain.


    With the defense that the Rams are building under Fisher and Williams, Bradford is more than capable of taking them to the playoffs...........if he stays healthy obviously.

    The Rams aren't quite to the worrisome level as the Niners as far as our stiffest competition in the West, but they're damn close.
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Re: Future power ranks
Fri Jul 11, 2014 8:54 am
  • The Rams ain't shit. The 9ers ain't shit. the Cards ain't shit.

    You guys need to stop being concerned about the other three teams in our division. They ain't shit compared to us.
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:47 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:The Rams ain't shit. The 9ers ain't shit. the Cards ain't shit.

    You guys need to stop being concerned about the other three teams in our division. They ain't shit compared to us.


    We finished one game ahead of the Niners, and needed an unbelievable play from Sherman in the NFC Championship game to beat them, so I wouldn't qualify the Niners as "shit."

    Do I think we're still the class of the division? Yes, but it's not like the AFC East with the Pats and a bunch of jokes. This division is nasty, very nasty.
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Re: Future power ranks
Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:58 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:The Rams ain't shit. The 9ers ain't shit. the Cards ain't shit.

    You guys need to stop being concerned about the other three teams in our division. They ain't shit compared to us.


    We finished one game ahead of the Niners, and needed an unbelievable play from Sherman in the NFC Championship game to beat them, so I wouldn't qualify the Niners as "shit."

    Do I think we're still the class of the division? Yes, but it's not like the AFC East with the Pats and a bunch of jokes. This division is nasty, very nasty.

    It's conceivable that all four teams end up with winning records, especially against the AFC West. No way the Seahawks could "slow down" even if that phrase was in their vocabulary.

    Would I base key personnel decisions solely on 'beating the other teams in the division'? No, but no way we can overlook them. As much fun as it is to diss on them, we're facing some quality coaches that are building solid teams. Sure, the other teams in our division have their flaws, as all teams do, but they know us and familiarity leads to closer games that we would like. Yeah, the Niners were very close to beating us at home in the playoffs. They've likely peaked, but they will continue to be dangerous for several years. The Cards and Lambs have also been on the upswing.

    We're still tops, but as always, everybody is out to get the guys on top. I've said it before: Fear nobody. Respect everybody.
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:11 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:The Rams ain't shit. The 9ers ain't shit. the Cards ain't shit.

    You guys need to stop being concerned about the other three teams in our division. They ain't shit compared to us.


    We finished one game ahead of the Niners, and needed an unbelievable play from Sherman in the NFC Championship game to beat them, so I wouldn't qualify the Niners as "shit."

    Do I think we're still the class of the division? Yes, but it's not like the AFC East with the Pats and a bunch of jokes. This division is nasty, very nasty.


    I agree the Niners are still right behind us as the teams to beat in the division. The Cards need to be able to beat the Niners to stake a claim atop the NFCW; they haven't managed to do that in 3 years. The Rams still aren't quite there.

    The thing is, this IS a nasty division and there isn't a lot of room for error. Look at the Niners last year: one game behind us. ONE flub on the road, hell ONE play in Houston and we don't get HFA. I still think we go to the SB (the Niners barely beat us at their house the last 2 years), but it's razor thin. Not taking future injuries into account:

    The Niners already have Bowman out half a year. I think that costs them a game. I also think their secondary costs them a game off of last year's pace. Even if we just split with them...I think they take a small step back.

    Even with our improvements we have some question marks. We also have a tougher schedule, so I have us winning 12 games this year.

    The Cards also have some question marks, like can they beat the Niners ? If they can split with the Niners, I think they win 10 games again this year.

    The Rams I have at 9-7. Bradford is such a huge question mark, than this can honestly swing 3 games either way.

    The division is so tight, I see the division winner going 4-2. I think we have the easiest road to being able to do that.
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Re: Future power ranks
Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:35 am
  • peachesenregalia wrote:The Rams ain't shit. The 9ers ain't shit. the Cards ain't shit.

    You guys need to stop being concerned about the other three teams in our division. They ain't shit compared to us.

    That's the epitome of complacency and the best recipe for missing the playoffs. The entire NFCW could possibly lose about than a game apiece outside the division but cannibalize each other in divisional play. The only thing that should push the starters more than the backups dying to be starters is the fact that the 3 other teams make it by far the toughest division in football, maybe the toughest in a long while.
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Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:05 am
  • Not every team in our division is going to finish above .500. There has never been a season where every team in a division finished with a winning record under the current alignment. At best, there have been a few occasions where the last place team finished 8-8, but those were mediocre divisions in which the winner went 10-6 or 9-7. With every team playing each other twice, it's virtually impossible for everyone to have a winning record.
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Re: Future power ranks
Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:58 pm
  • Cartire wrote:
    Ahhhhh yes. I see now. It had a lot of familiarity, I couldnt figure it out. I thought Small actually said those words. It would have been amazing.



    Yeah sorry Cartire...should have explained that it was a "future" quote after the young facemask breaking beast goes through the rigors of training camp. My bad.
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Sat Jul 12, 2014 11:34 am
  • PC said: "We are just getting started"
    The Mariners big season their motto was "Refuse to lose".
    Arthur on Seinfeld said "Serenity now"

    Maybe the Seahawks motto for this season (and seasons to come) should be "Dynasty Now"???????
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Re: Future power ranks
Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:20 pm
  • peachesenregalia wrote:The Rams ain't shit. The 9ers ain't shit. the Cards ain't shit.

    You guys need to stop being concerned about the other three teams in our division. They ain't shit compared to us.

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Re: Future power ranks
Sat Jul 12, 2014 12:24 pm
  • MadSweeney wrote:
    peachesenregalia wrote:The Rams ain't shit. The 9ers ain't shit. the Cards ain't shit.

    You guys need to stop being concerned about the other three teams in our division. They ain't shit compared to us.

    That's the epitome of complacency and the best recipe for missing the playoffs. The entire NFCW could possibly lose about than a game apiece outside the division but cannibalize each other in divisional play. The only thing that should push the starters more than the backups dying to be starters is the fact that the 3 other teams make it by far the toughest division in football, maybe the toughest in a long while.

    Hogwash! Last time I checked Peaches doesn't play for the Hawks. Teams don't lose games based on fan's confidence or cockiness........
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Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:25 pm
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Sat Jul 12, 2014 1:41 pm
  • Trenchbroom wrote:
    lsheldon wrote:Seahawks under PC / JS Complacent? I don't think so.

    The dilemma: This team's biggest obstacle to sustained success for at least the next two years is going to be complacency.


    Yeah, and with the 2nd and 3rd string talent we have trying to take a starting role from the veterans? Not happening.

    "Opening game is only a few days away, and the rookie/red shirt recruits of the World Champion Seattle Seahawks are salty. They are ready to eat their own guts and ask for seconds. The coaches are proud to see that we are growing beyond their control. The Seahawks does not want robots. The Seahawks wants killers. The Seahawks wants to build indestructible men, men without fear."

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Re: Future power ranks
Sun Jul 13, 2014 12:42 am
  • Sgt. Largent wrote:
    HawkWow wrote:
    jdemps wrote:
    oasis wrote:Interesting idea. Id do
    1 Seahawks
    2 49ers
    3 Rams


    1 of the 5 categories is QB, so Rams........


    You suggest the Rams haven't a capable QB. I'm not so certain.


    With the defense that the Rams are building under Fisher and Williams, Bradford is more than capable of taking them to the playoffs...........if he stays healthy obviously.

    The Rams aren't quite to the worrisome level as the Niners as far as our stiffest competition in the West, but they're damn close.


    If one of the 5 categories is coaching, the Rams should get knocked down for that too. Jeff Fisher gets WAY too much credit for his coaching. He has coached 18 full seasons and led teams to winning records in 6 of them. He has taken more REALLY talented teams to within one game of 8-8 than any other coach in NFL history. As a Seahawks fan, I hope he coaches the Rams for a very long time.
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