Nominee for Seahawks' worst draft choice of 2014

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  • It's still very early, but I would have to go with selecting Jimmy Staten in the Fifth Round. Staten showed little stamina, technique, or playmaking ability at Middle Tennessee State. His one upside was his size and strength, but he also appeared to get knocked off the line of scrimmage with some frequency. It's possible Staten may have gone undrafted if not selected by the Seahawks in rounds five through seven.

    The Seahawks already have multiple developmental interior defensive linemen with seemingly more upside, including Scruggs, Hill, Williams, and Brooks. It seems unlikely Staten will even make the practice squad without an impressive showing in camp.

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  • Gotta be Garrett Scott since he won't even make it to training camp to compete.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:Gotta be Garrett Scott since he won't even make it to training camp to compete.


    I guess they should have discovered Scott's condition before they drafted him, though I'm not sure if pre-draft limits on physicals made that difficult.

    At least Scott is still somewhat of a question mark, since they can stash him on injured reserve and hope he's treated before next season. I can't see Staten making the practice squad right now, and he was selected a round before Scott.
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  • I'm not going to nominate anyone.

    I just don't know enough about any of these young fellas yet to form an opinion without seeing them at least play in the preseason.
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  • Waaaaay too soon to call.

    Let's see what they can do on the field as pros.
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  • Ridiculous topic
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  • Hawkfan77 wrote:Ridiculous topic

    Who started it?
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  • If you have nothing to say . . . complain about the topic! It's a truism of this board.
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  • hawknation2014 wrote:If you have nothing to say . . . complain about the topic! It's a truism of this board.


    So is starting threads to declare busts before we've even seen the players on the field.
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  • He said it was early so its okay. Its the same as saying, "with all due respect" just before you insult someone. By saying "its early" all the ridiculousness goes away.
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  • Sarlacc83 wrote:
    hawknation2014 wrote:If you have nothing to say . . . complain about the topic! It's a truism of this board.


    So is starting threads to declare busts before we've even seen the players on the field.


    I neither declared anything nor used the word bust. I'm merely stating my opinion on Staten's viability as a prospect on this team.

    That's one of the things that makes message boards lively and interesting: different viewpoints and predictions on what will happen in the future.
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  • I don't get it. This is obviously an opinion topic which asks for other opinions as to what you think was our worst pick this year.

    Who do you think ends up sucking/getting cut?

    What's the big problem with the topic? It's not ridiculous, it's a football discussion asking for opinions. It was even acknowledged that it's too early to give a real judgement. This is all prediction. I don't see you guys getting all mad at our record prediction thread every year and whining about how it's too early to tell what our record will be.

    Boo to all of you sensitive folk. It's a damn football forum. Talk football!
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  • A working tolerance for differing views and opinion is useful here.

    Faulting players and highlighting what they can not do has been an exercise of scouts and fans for decades. A reading of the thread title forewarns of such content. And although John Schneider and Pete Carroll go out of their way to make a point in differentiating the way they look and evaluate draft prospects, that doesn't preclude others from continuing with the old ways.

    Differing camps are going to find fault with each other. :229031_shrug: It's inevitable.
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  • JSeahawks wrote:Gotta be Garrett Scott since he won't even make it to training camp to compete.

    I can't agree with that. They had no way of knowing he had a heart condition. No other doctor had found it previously.
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  • It's too early to say, I think. We hear raves/pans of WRs/DBs at this stage because they're allowed to show something in these no-pad practices. We're not going to know much of the DL/OL guys until the pads are on.

    However, if there's an area where we can afford to miss right now, it's probably interior DL. We got a lot of depth and few open spots in that area. For that reason alone, Staten may need to wait in the wings on the practice squad.
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  • I'll go with Staten too. He makes me think of EJ Wilson, borderline talent that they took a long shot on. I'm sure that John Schneider sees this guy as a long shot too. Just like I doubt he was surprised when EJ Wilson didn't make the team.

    Front offices make these determinations during the draft, that's why they wait until late to select them. If they think they will have trouble signing them as an UDFA, say because of a glut of defensive linemen, they draft them.

    This team is at a point where it's hard to make the roster and some of the picks are going to be throw-aways.
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  • Maelstrom787 wrote:
    Boo to all of you sensitive folk.


    Wait, which sensitive folk again? The folks who think the premise of the topic is ridiculous, or the people who get upset because some people think the premise of the topic is ridiculous?
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  • My least favorite pick was Britt.I dont think he is the worst player drafted.I just thought there were better options that high in the draft.
    In fact I wasnt a huge fan of the 1st 2 picks,Fortunately i have been wrong about the draft before,many times
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  • volsunghawk wrote:
    Maelstrom787 wrote:
    Boo to all of you sensitive folk.


    Wait, which sensitive folk again? The folks who think the premise of the topic is ridiculous, or the people who get upset because some people think the premise of the topic is ridiculous?


    The people who get upset about the people who get upset about the people who get upset because they think the topic is ridiculous.
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  • None of the picks really bother me.

    When I look at Staten's limited tape I see glimpses of what Red Bryant was prior to 2010. I also see similarities in both thier length, strength, big body and athleticism.

    Staten's a leader and looks to have a good head on his shoulders to give everything he's got especially coming from a small school where this is probably an opportunity of a lifetime for him.

    Like you said he might not make the practice squad but he'll compete, he'll make the guy in front of him better, and that guy in front of them, will make the guy in front of them better and so forth.

    So, let them compete... not much downside looking at the bigger picture.
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  • DT Jimmy Staten
    Staten had a rough day. He found himself pushed to the ground in pass rush drills repeatedly. He is not getting a ton of reps, and appears to be way down on the depth chart.


    http://www.hawkblogger.com/2014/07/2014 ... -26th.html

    FB Kiero Small
    Small did not block well in the 1v1 pass rush drills today. If he is not going to be a great pass blocker, his chances of making the team are very small, even if he is a good lead blocker.


    So far, WR Kevin Norwood has looked like the biggest draft day steal, followed by DL Cassius Marsh. Kevin Pierre-Louis has had some solid moments, flashing his athleticism, along with speedy WR Paul Richardson and OL Justin Britt.

    Here is how I would current rank these draft selections:

    1. WR Kevin Norwood (4th Round, 123 overall)- Deadly on jump balls with great hands and catching radius.
    2. DL Cassius Marsh (4th Round, 108 overall)- Versatility to play inside or outside, solid arsenal of pass rushing moves.
    3. WR Paul Richardson (2nd Round, 45 overall)- Elite second gear to stretch the field but not elite in jump ball situations or escaping the jam.
    4. Kevin Pierre-Louis (4th Round, 132 overall)- Schneider seems to have nailed all three moves in the Fourth Round. KPL's athleticism appears to be a perfect fit with this LB corps.
    5, OL Justin Britt (2nd Round, 64 overall)- Struggles in pass protection but has a powerful base that makes him a weapon in the running game. His best position may eventually be inside at guard.
    All five of these players have looked like strong choices. The next four players have not done much yet.
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  • I really hope to be wrong, but I suspect that when we look back in three years the bust of this Seahawks draft will be Justin Britt. I like the player, but his issues in pass pro are going to be very difficult to correct. Dude gets ragdolled by strong pass rushers, it's hard for a 315 pound player fix that.
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  • kearly wrote:I really hope to be wrong, but I suspect that when we look back in three years the bust of this Seahawks draft will be Justin Britt. I like the player, but his issues in pass pro are going to be very difficult to correct. Dude gets ragdolled by strong pass rushers, it's hard for a 315 pound player fix that.

    Grooooooan... What's the deal with our inability to draft OL? We REALLY need to get Russell some help up there or he won't make it through his first contract.
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  • Also what's the deal with idiots who always have to slam a thread? Nobody cares so keep your whiny girl crying to yourselves. I like the topic. It's interesting. A lot more interesting than some self-important grump crying about someone else's thread
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