Pick #64, 2nd Round: OT Justin Britt, Missouri

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  • Here's the entire South Carolina vs. Missouri 2013 game... Britt holds his own, most of the time 1 on 1


    Here's the condensed version... it was a pretty exciting double OT game


    FWIW from Dybas:
    Cable said the #Seahawks had targeted two OL guys. One went earlier, so, that left them with Britt. #Seahawks


    Ja'wuan James had a workout with Cable went #19, XSF went #33.. Kind of think original plan was Easley at #32, Richardson at #64 and hope for Britt, otherwise Richardson tradeback(s), XSF at #64 (very unlikely) or else Britt.
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  • HawkAroundTheClock wrote:
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    Tech Worlds wrote:Couldn't we have gotten this guy a round or two later?

    Don't like this one either.


    Word from the main man is no; he would have vanished a few picks later. And I also heard he was our second choice at the position. One other player they had rated a bit higher went before they could grab him, but they were happy Britt fell to us when he did.


    J-Sizzle said the Seahawks war room predicted a run at tackle. 2 of the 3 picks after us were tackles. 2 more tackles were picked toward the end of the 3rd. Schneid knows his stuff.


    Yea he do! Wanted Richardson. Traded down twice, picked up two extra picks. Still got Richardson. Wanted Britt. Snagged him just before he'd have been snagged by someone else. That's stone cold Einsteinian right there.
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  • TheWebHead wrote:Here's the entire South Carolina vs. Missouri 2013 game... Britt holds his own, most of the time 1 on 1


    FWIW from Dybas:
    Cable said the #Seahawks had targeted two OL guys. One went earlier, so, that left them with Britt. #Seahawks


    Ja'wuan James had a workout with Cable went #19, XSF went #33.. Kind of think original plan was Easley at #32, Richardson at #64 and hope for Britt, otherwise Richardson tradeback(s), XSF at #64 (very unlikely) or else Britt.


    Nah it was Richardson at 32
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  • JS mentioned they only had a few highly rated OT's left and they had to get one before a run on them, then it went Britt, Moses, Turner.

    CBSsport.com was reporting Antonio Richardson with our first pick and I was super happy. I think we need a Tackle that can move to LT is/when Okung gets injured again. Putt Britt at T next to Sweezy both mean bad ass scrappy guys who have a wrestling background and I think they will work well together.
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  • Nah it was Richardson at 32


    It was reported to be Easley at #32, but Pats took him. JS said they'd then pick Richardson at #32 barring no trade partner, but that was based on who was still on the board when they picked at #32.
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  • TheWebHead wrote:
    Nah it was Richardson at 32


    It was reported to be Easley at #32, but Pats took him. JS said they'd then pick Richardson at #32 barring no trade partner, but that was based on who was still on the board when they picked at #32.


    Ah ha! Got it
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  • Pandion Haliaetus wrote:
    DavidSeven wrote:For those that call it a reach: You honestly can't call it a reach unless you have watched his tape and put a grade on him. Do you know where other teams graded him? No. All you know is what you see on some media produced mocks that become increasingly inaccurate as we go deeper into the draft.

    What do you hate about this pick besides your knee jerk reaction based on some half-baked Kiper/McShay mock?


    Exactly.

    What bothers me is people continue to use the Carpenter/Moffitt arguments as if means something to Cable. And every single time I ask those people in the 2011, what linemen should we have drafted instead that would have done better instead.

    Is it Cable's fault, that a lock-out plus 2 serious knee injuries derailed Carpenter's career?

    Is it Cable's fault, that Moffitt's heart wasn't seriously into football and wasn't as tough as he looked at Wisconsin? Cable gave him every opportunity to earn his position and he got out played by Sweezy.

    But again ALL YOU HATERS look at the 2011 Draft and tell me what O-Linemen should the Seahawks have drafted because in retrospect that year for O-Linemen is probably the worst I've seen since following the drafts. Just downright poor talent but we needed O-Line in 2011 in the worst way.


    Judging from your post, i guess the better question is who passed the law in 2011 that the Seahawks had to draft 2 linemen. If there aren't any good players at the position, then select other players.

    I, like most, never knew this player. I've been watching some tape since he was drafted this afternoon and I am sorely disappointed. You can tell that the Hawks themselves were not excited with either player drafted today --hence why they moved back in the draft and probably would have moved back again if able. They were forced into a selection, and these players felt like "the least bad" to PC/JS.

    Looking at Britt, the guy is a plodder, much like Moffit. Slow with feet like they are stuck in mud. He also does not look powerful, at all, for his size. Has no speed, seems weak and doesn't have any unique or incredible talent. If you had a pick right now between Britt or Alvin Bailey/Michael Bowie --who would you pick? My order would be:

    1) Bailey
    2) Bowie
    3) Britt

    Just not a good player from what i've seen. Then we get to Richardson...eehhmmm, meh...basically hear sounds coming out of my mouth that make you think this guy is underwhelmed. The Hawks had one GLARING weakness at a position where talent is so obvious that it's hard to draft high value players deep ---that's a red zone threat (weakness) at the WR position. They needed that Josh Gordon ---the guy with size and athletic ability to put the fear of death into defenders. They did not get that guy, even though at least 5 WRs that fit the bill were available. Why not Brandon Colman (my fav), or Martavius Bryant (2nd best) or Moncrief or Robinson, or i can name many more. Instead a 5'2 midget that may get tackled if its a stormy day at the CLINK and a strong breeze works its way through the stadium. Just a horrible draft so far, but i'm not surprised.

    Have we not learned yet? PC/JS are HORRIBLE with early round picks. If they get top half of the 1st round, they are pretty good --but once they get late 1st- early 3rd, they are just not that good. They pick players that can be had in the 5th round. But then they save themselves with the later rounds --great picks here. Which begs the question, why not trade away your first entirely for 4 draft picks from the 3rd-6th rounds?
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  • TheWebHead wrote:
    Nah it was Richardson at 32


    It was reported to be Easley at #32, but Pats took him. JS said they'd then pick Richardson at #32 barring no trade partner, but that was based on who was still on the board when they picked at #32.


    Our board must only have like 12 guys on it.
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  • Lord Plyka has spoken. Is it too late to ring up Schneider and see if he can get a refund from Goodell on our draft picks?
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  • plyka wrote:[q
    Have we not learned yet? PC/JS are HORRIBLE with early round picks. If they get top half of the 1st round, they are pretty good --but once they get late 1st- early 3rd, they are just not that good.


    Golden Tate, Bobby Wagner, Christine Michael, and Russell freakin' Wilson were 2nd round-early 3rd round picks. What are you even talking about?
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  • plyka wrote:Why not Brandon Colman (my fav), or Martavius Bryant (2nd best) or Moncrief or Robinson, or i can name many more. Instead a 5'2 midget that may get tackled if its a stormy day at the CLINK and a strong breeze works its way through the stadium. Just a horrible draft so far, but i'm not surprised.


    Well, Brandon Coleman (a favorite of mine too) is still available, sitting a mere seven picks away from us. It's likely that if we want him, we can have him. It wouldn't surprise me at all if we picked him in the 4th, so you may see us get both for the price of one, since we traded down twice to pick up two picks, while acquiring Richardson. Also, he's easily six foot, almost 6'1", and is beefing up considerably already.

    plyka wrote:Looking at Britt, the guy is a plodder, much like Moffit. Slow with feet like they are stuck in mud. He also does not look powerful, at all, for his size. Has no speed, seems weak and doesn't have any unique or incredible talent. If you had a pick right now between Britt or Alvin Bailey/Michael Bowie --who would you pick? My order would be:

    1) Bailey
    2) Bowie
    3) Britt


    Moffitt's real downside was his desire to play in the NFL, or apparently, do anything constructive with his life. And he's not being compared to Moffitt really; he's being compared mostly to Breno. He's got some fire, some attitude. He'll be fine.

    And of course anyone would rank those guys in that order. That's the whole deal with being a raw rookie out of college. He's not going to come in and start immediately; few guys have the ability to do that, especially on the line. (And at WR for that matter). He's going to compete right away with Bowie for the position, so chances are they've seen something indicating he could win the starting position there. That's an upgrade in my book.

    I think we're probably not quite as set as the most optimistic of us would think, but much better off than the pessimists fear.
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  • plyka wrote:
    Pandion Haliaetus wrote:
    DavidSeven wrote:For those that call it a reach: You honestly can't call it a reach unless you have watched his tape and put a grade on him. Do you know where other teams graded him? No. All you know is what you see on some media produced mocks that become increasingly inaccurate as we go deeper into the draft.

    What do you hate about this pick besides your knee jerk reaction based on some half-baked Kiper/McShay mock?


    Exactly.

    What bothers me is people continue to use the Carpenter/Moffitt arguments as if means something to Cable. And every single time I ask those people in the 2011, what linemen should we have drafted instead that would have done better instead.

    Is it Cable's fault, that a lock-out plus 2 serious knee injuries derailed Carpenter's career?

    Is it Cable's fault, that Moffitt's heart wasn't seriously into football and wasn't as tough as he looked at Wisconsin? Cable gave him every opportunity to earn his position and he got out played by Sweezy.

    But again ALL YOU HATERS look at the 2011 Draft and tell me what O-Linemen should the Seahawks have drafted because in retrospect that year for O-Linemen is probably the worst I've seen since following the drafts. Just downright poor talent but we needed O-Line in 2011 in the worst way.


    Judging from your post, i guess the better question is who passed the law in 2011 that the Seahawks had to draft 2 linemen. If there aren't any good players at the position, then select other players.

    I, like most, never knew this player. I've been watching some tape since he was drafted this afternoon and I am sorely disappointed. You can tell that the Hawks themselves were not excited with either player drafted today --hence why they moved back in the draft and probably would have moved back again if able. They were forced into a selection, and these players felt like "the least bad" to PC/JS.

    Looking at Britt, the guy is a plodder, much like Moffit. Slow with feet like they are stuck in mud. He also does not look powerful, at all, for his size. Has no speed, seems weak and doesn't have any unique or incredible talent. If you had a pick right now between Britt or Alvin Bailey/Michael Bowie --who would you pick? My order would be:

    1) Bailey
    2) Bowie
    3) Britt

    Just not a good player from what i've seen. Then we get to Richardson...eehhmmm, meh...basically hear sounds coming out of my mouth that make you think this guy is underwhelmed. The Hawks had one GLARING weakness at a position where talent is so obvious that it's hard to draft high value players deep ---that's a red zone threat (weakness) at the WR position. They needed that Josh Gordon ---the guy with size and athletic ability to put the fear of death into defenders. They did not get that guy, even though at least 5 WRs that fit the bill were available. Why not Brandon Colman (my fav), or Martavius Bryant (2nd best) or Moncrief or Robinson, or i can name many more. Instead a 5'2 midget that may get tackled if its a stormy day at the CLINK and a strong breeze works its way through the stadium. Just a horrible draft so far, but i'm not surprised.

    Have we not learned yet? PC/JS are HORRIBLE with early round picks. If they get top half of the 1st round, they are pretty good --but once they get late 1st- early 3rd, they are just not that good. They pick players that can be had in the 5th round. But then they save themselves with the later rounds --great picks here. Which begs the question, why not trade away your first entirely for 4 draft picks from the 3rd-6th rounds?



    Well here's something for everyone due to the raining on our parade posts that we can't do anything right as a front office come draft day.

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  • So Cable talked us into reaching for another lineman. Better not be another turd.
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  • plyka wrote:Have we not learned yet? PC/JS are HORRIBLE with early round picks.


    You are frustrated because you are using a metric that Pete and John are not using. They have a consistent philosophy regarding who they get and when they get them. They have a track record, yet people continue to judge them based on a generic "best player available" or "value" approach.

    Our front office emphasizes attitude, background, and the whole person to a degree that I don't think most teams do. All the UDFA's with something to prove and the "reaches" like Irvin, and now Robinson, are on the team where we get them BECAUSE it affects their drive, motivation, coachability, etc. The championship vibe of the Seahawks locker room IS WHAT IT IS because of how Pete and John draft and where they get their guys.

    The feeling at the facility would be WAY DIFFERENT if our front office drafted like most of the other teams, following the rubrics of the expert mockers. For our Super Bowl Champion organization, top-tier consensus-pick guys like Earl Thomas, Russell Okung, and Percy Harvin (even though we didn't draft him) are the exception to the PC/JS rule. And I'd say overall, their rule rules.

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  • Seaswab wrote:So Cable talked us into reaching for another lineman. Better not be another turd.


    Watch out! The thought police will be out in force. How dare you even question a decision that our front office makes. To the gallows with you!
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  • RolandDeschain wrote:Lord Plyka has spoken. Is it too late to ring up Schneider and see if he can get a refund from Goodell on our draft picks?

    Remember this is the 'Hawks' FO your talking about here. Done and done.

    Both picks have now vanished...*poof*
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  • BeaHUman wrote:"Justin Britt dominated Jadeveon Clowney in the South Carolina game"

    That's a good sign, negate the #1 pick.....



    We need the video evidence!


    I see it above, hope he works out!
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  • It is entertaining to read the negative thoughts on the PC/JS draft picks.

    Their knowledge on these players and how they fit is so ridiculously beyond ours that it isn't even funny. I don't know anything about Justin Britt, but I have developed a blind trust for what these two men see and the vision that they have for these players and how they fit with the Super Bowl winning organization that they have built here. Really guys, they are literally the best duo in the world when it comes to constructing an elite NFL roster. Read that again. They are literally the best duo in the world when it comes to constructing a SUPER BOWL WINNING NFL ROSTER. Before hating these picks, ask yourself how you felt about the drafting of our quarterback, two of our starting corners, our safety, our linebacker who won the SB MVP, and countless other players who were nobodies on draft day. PC/JS miss here and there, but to expect perfection is a fool's errand. Their ability to shut out the noise (see draft grades, 'expert' analysis, combine measurables, and everything else used by people NOT winning rings) and focus on how a player will fit the system here is a skill that many of us simply cannot comprehend.

    Richardson is going to be a monster in this offense. Again, I'm not educated on Britt but they love him so that's enough for me.

    Nothing wrong with discussing and having an opinion, but I really don't get some of the comments here.

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  • kearly wrote:Interesting guy. In the Georgia game he gets blown back so badly you'd think he was John Carlson, but on running plays he's returning the favor. Probably has good core power, but might have issues with balance.


    I read on one of his draft ratings that the guy cleans over 400 lbs. That will get you some core power. Funny, from the small highlights I watched of him, he seemed to be decent at in line run blocking, whiffs in space, and has really good feet and balance. He's susceptible to the bull rush.

    I don't care where he was rated compared to where he "should've" gone. I compare picks to guys who were still available. We passed on Kouandijo (I'll never get his freakin name right), and Moses was available when we drafted Britt. I've seen a few mocks that had us drafting Moses in the end of the 1st, so the value on Moses was already there.

    So, Kearly, Snohomie...guys that really paid attention to all these prospects: is Britt a better player than Cyrus or Moses ?

    That's all I care about. I think Cable can make this kid good. We got Breno off of the Packers' practice squad and he turned out just fine.
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  • Hawks46 wrote:is Britt a better player than Cyrus or Moses ?

    That's all I care about. I think Cable can make this kid good. We got Breno off of the Packers' practice squad and he turned out just fine.


    I don't know that it's really about Britt being a "better player" than those two in a vacuum. I think they grade him highly as a RT and think he's a better fit on this team than those two, particularly at the RT position. Based on Cable's comments, I think Breno, despite some ups and downs, became a sort of prototype for what they want at RT. If Britt pans out, he is a guy who can carry the torch for Breno in terms of play and personality, and I think that's what they like about him. As other people have said today, the Seahawks scout players for themselves only, not for the NFL or Madden. Hopefully, it works out as they envision it.

    Cable's presser is pretty illuminating on this topic, as is Pete and John's.
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  • I really don't know what to think of this pick. All I know is that Mayock seemed pretty surprised that we took him in the 2nd and he is usually on the few people that always has liked our picks.
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  • I would prefer a "technician" to James carpenter.....he has superior size is somewhat mobile and can think. Whats not to like about that. I red flag his injury history though. A simple analysis for a simple game.

    Does remind me of our center from Oregon. Versatile, intelligent, mobile.......as we have seen these guys can be eaten alive in the NFL for there first year or two but pan out really well when the curve is caught up.
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  • Blitzer88 wrote:I really don't know what to think of this pick. All I know is that Mayock seemed pretty surprised that we took him in the 2nd and he is usually on the few people that always has liked our picks.

    Blitzer, bro, you're trying too hard.
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  • I'm not listening to blitzer no more, he insulted my nickname for Richardson, I advise everyone to do the same til he takes it back.
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  • Hawkfan77 wrote:
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    sc85sis wrote:Holmgren just said on KJR that if your o-line coach likes the guy, forget about what all the projections are as to where he will/should go in the draft. He thinks this is a Cable pick.


    Normally I would be okay with that, but Moffitt and Carp were considered Cable picks as well.............so uh yeah.

    No one is saying he's a Cable pick
    Ummm actually yea! Cable say's it in The Seahawks Website.it was his pick.
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  • plyka wrote:You can tell that the Hawks themselves were not excited with either player drafted today --hence why they moved back in the draft and probably would have moved back again if able. They were forced into a selection, and these players felt like "the least bad" to PC/JS.


    You can think what you want about the player, I don't really care, I just had to comment on this HORRIBLE logic.

    I guess the Hawks weren't excited about Bobby Wagner and Russell Wilson. I mean they traded back in the 2nd and were later forced into selecting him. They picked Russell Wilson in the 3rd after technically passing on him 4 times (traded back in the 1st and 2nd) and were forced into selecting him at 75. Oh wait, Russell Wilson was actually a top 5 player to Schneider? Maybe, just MAYBE they used their knowledge of the players perception around the league to get other players who had a better perception first or even get extra picks and the players they wanted....but thats just not logical at all.

    You have to be smart to do that...like the Steelers did in the greatest draft of all time when Noll was in love with John Stallworth and he wanted to select him in the 1st, but they talked him into selecting Lynn Swann and Jack Lambert first because they knew he would last, then selected him in the 4th.
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  • plyka wrote:Just not a good player from what i've seen. Then we get to Richardson...eehhmmm, meh...basically hear sounds coming out of my mouth that make you think this guy is underwhelmed. The Hawks had one GLARING weakness at a position where talent is so obvious that it's hard to draft high value players deep ---that's a red zone threat (weakness) at the WR position. They needed that Josh Gordon ---the guy with size and athletic ability to put the fear of death into defenders. They did not get that guy, even though at least 5 WRs that fit the bill were available. Why not Brandon Colman (my fav), or Martavius Bryant (2nd best) or Moncrief or Robinson, or i can name many more. Instead a 5'2 midget that may get tackled if its a stormy day at the CLINK and a strong breeze works its way through the stadium. Just a horrible draft so far, but i'm not surprised.


    :lol:

    Brandon Coleman is one of the most overrated players in .NET history. Between ENGLISH comparing him to Megatron 2.0 and a few other posters making it sound like he's going to be Randy Moss reincarnated.. he's simply not that good. I'm sorry. Martavius Bryant is Stephen Hill all over again.. and while I liked Moncrief and Robinson a lot, this FO clearly wanted another option that can take the top off the defense. That is Paul Richardson. Desean Jackson and Mike Wallace are thinking of suing Richardson for copyright infringement because he's damn near identical to both of those guys.

    And forgive me for this.. but I tend to trust John Schneider and Pete Carroll over plyka the Seahawks.net poster that reads a couple of mock drafts from Rob Rang and thinks he's a college scouting guru.
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  • Blitzer88 wrote:I really don't know what to think of this pick. All I know is that Mayock seemed pretty surprised that we took him in the 2nd and he is usually on the few people that always has liked our picks.


    Mayock said he had him graded in the 5th but if JS drafted him 64th he might have been wrong on him.

    In other words, Mayock knows how foolish this FO has made people look that try to grade a draft pick minutes and hours after it happens.
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  • How can anyone actually question a Seahawks draft pick with any confidence ... I trust Pete and John. Always and forever.
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  • Hawkfan77 wrote:
    hawk45 wrote:The Cable endorsement is the worst thing he has going for him in my eyes :(

    What Cable endorsement?


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  • How can anyone pass judgment without seeing any of the picks in a Seahawk uniform for a year or so?

    It is all speculation including mine:

    The staff wanted this guy. They wanted a guy that could play right away. Britt has been described as a "technician". Let me interpret that for you.......technician = "not a project". His upside probably isn't huge like, for example, Moses, but he will add immediate depth if not immediately start at right tackle. He will carry them over while Cable converts a new undrafted, athletic DT with huge upside (in other words, a project).
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  • If the pundits are surprised and Plyka hates it, we have a WINNER.
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  • Sarlacc83 wrote:
    Hawkfan77 wrote:
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    DavidSeven wrote:For those that call it a reach: You honestly can't call it a reach unless you have watched his tape and put a grade on him. Do you know where other teams graded him? No. All you know is what you see on some media produced mocks that become increasingly inaccurate as we go deeper into the draft.

    What do you hate about this pick besides your knee jerk reaction based on some half-baked Kiper/McShay mock?



    Jokes aside, Kiper and McShay know much more than any of us. Believe it. So does Mayock, who had Britt slated for the 5th rd. Aside from our FO, who do you suggest we listen to? I am not being sarcastic.

    So they can't be wrong? Got it


    Mayock immediately after his comment said: "They clearly know more than I do" - giving due deference to the Super Bowl champions.

    To the people here who seem unable to grasp this one simple fact: the Seahawks DO NOT draft players they think will be good on any team. They draft players who will be good on ours. In the meantime, the talking heads don't understand what makes Seattle tick.

    Furthermore if you complain about this 5th round crap, you forget one major thing: This FO is crazy like a fox. Remember when they waited to draft Russell Wilson in the 3rd round, even though Schneider would've done it in the first and second? They know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. If the grabbed this guy at 64, it's because they knew he'd be gone. End of.

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  • Largent80 wrote:If the pundits are surprised and Plyka hates it, we have a WINNER.

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  • BlueThunder wrote:Ya know, with Pete and John, I just assume that they see something in a player that other people don't see. They look at some skill or other intangible that their draft picks have and then "Coach 'em up". I think that's the main advantage that our organization has... Look for this or that that Pete and John see, and then hit 'em hard with targeted coaching, targeting their perceived weakness, then concentrate on strengthening that weakness and turning them into a very good or elite player. At least that's the way it has seemed to have gone with our other passed-over draft picks and ignored free agents so far. Anyone else agree with that assessment?


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  • Throwdown wrote:I'm not listening to blitzer no more, he insulted my nickname for Richardson, I advise everyone to do the same til he takes it back.


    Never! I mean you didn't even consult with me on the nickname.
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  • SeahawksFanForever wrote:Image

    Cut him.
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  • Obviously Pete and John did NOT do their due diligence scouting this dude.
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    Cut him.


    Big deal. He'll learn to hate those dbags soon enough.
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    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh HELL NO!
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  • There were a lot of mocks had us taking Moses and even Yankey early on. Would you have preferred we take Yankey instead of Britt because the draft bozos said we should? Yankey went in the 5th round. We have had less than stellar performances with our first round picks, but I'm more than happy with the overall results. All the draft experts were drooling over the Niners draft. I'm almost happy when they don't like our picks. Ifound it interesting that several said that they won't criticize our front office anymore. Their success speaks for itself. They also said that we draft looking a year or more ahead. They obviously think Britt has a chance to start. let's hope they are right.
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  • To me Britt looks like a hybrid of Breno Giacomini and Kyle Turley (if some of you henry wrinklers can remember him).

    I don't think he'll ever be star tackle within league circles but I think he can give you a consistent presence with 200% effort and play with a tough and nasty demeanor that gets under defensive linemens skins.
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  • plyka wrote:Just not a good player from what i've seen. Then we get to Richardson...eehhmmm, meh...basically hear sounds coming out of my mouth that make you think this guy is underwhelmed. The Hawks had one GLARING weakness at a position where talent is so obvious that it's hard to draft high value players deep ---that's a red zone threat (weakness) at the WR position. They needed that Josh Gordon ---the guy with size and athletic ability to put the fear of death into defenders. They did not get that guy, even though at least 5 WRs that fit the bill were available. Why not Brandon Colman (my fav), or Martavius Bryant (2nd best) or Moncrief or Robinson, or i can name many more. Instead a 5'2 midget that may get tackled if its a stormy day at the CLINK and a strong breeze works its way through the stadium. Just a horrible draft so far, but i'm not surprised.

    Have we not learned yet? PC/JS are HORRIBLE with early round picks. If they get top half of the 1st round, they are pretty good --but once they get late 1st- early 3rd, they are just not that good. They pick players that can be had in the 5th round. But then they save themselves with the later rounds --great picks here. Which begs the question, why not trade away your first entirely for 4 draft picks from the 3rd-6th rounds?


    This post just gets better. Criticizes PC/JS for picking players who supposedly would have been available in the 5th or later over his "fav" who we could have gotten with any pick because he ended up going undrafted :lol:
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  • Every Seahawk should wear Kaepernicking T-Shirts and kiss their biceps all the time. Not that we need to be any more in Kaepernick's head or anything.

    I thought the comment about there being another "target" OL previously taken was interesting. There were four other lineman it could have been:

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  • Meeker wrote:
    plyka wrote:Just not a good player from what i've seen. Then we get to Richardson...eehhmmm, meh...basically hear sounds coming out of my mouth that make you think this guy is underwhelmed. The Hawks had one GLARING weakness at a position where talent is so obvious that it's hard to draft high value players deep ---that's a red zone threat (weakness) at the WR position. They needed that Josh Gordon ---the guy with size and athletic ability to put the fear of death into defenders. They did not get that guy, even though at least 5 WRs that fit the bill were available. Why not Brandon Colman (my fav), or Martavius Bryant (2nd best) or Moncrief or Robinson, or i can name many more. Instead a 5'2 midget that may get tackled if its a stormy day at the CLINK and a strong breeze works its way through the stadium. Just a horrible draft so far, but i'm not surprised.

    Have we not learned yet? PC/JS are HORRIBLE with early round picks. If they get top half of the 1st round, they are pretty good --but once they get late 1st- early 3rd, they are just not that good. They pick players that can be had in the 5th round. But then they save themselves with the later rounds --great picks here. Which begs the question, why not trade away your first entirely for 4 draft picks from the 3rd-6th rounds?


    This post just gets better. Criticizes PC/JS for picking players who supposedly would have been available in the 5th or later over his "fav" who we could have gotten with any pick because he ended up going undrafted :lol:


    Yeah, uh, dude looks pretty bad right about now. I'd probably not peek back in here if I were him because he got destroyed.
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  • Wow, the homerism is strong in this draft. Apparently anyone who dislikes a pick is a HATER. Can't we have a discussion about a player without people getting upset when someone else doesn't LOVE every single player that John and Pete choose?

    It's as if people think that every player picked is going to make the team if and only if they defend that pick. Some of these guys are going to suck, and just like some posters recognized greatness early on in Russell Wilson, some will recognize mediocrity in a player early on in a player.

    The other argument that I hear is "we won the Superbowl last year, or did you forget?" As if that means the front office is now infallible. What happens if we don't make the playoffs this year? Or have people already determined that we have a dynasty?

    The Front office has blown it on a lot of picks, all through the process, at every round. Where's our "Anquan Boldin" that everyone was so jazzed about last year and that everyone was quoting Kiper about? If one of those "pundits" has something good to say about our draft pick they get quoted. I see tweets from people that nobody has heard of being quoted yet Mayock is dumb?

    Let's be reasonable here. A lot of these guys may not make the team, some will be injury prone, some just will not be football players. And some of the "naysayers" and "haters" on here will be correct. It does no one any good to call them names if they disagree about about a choice.

    So let them speak their piece, and try not to get upset about it. Because when you do, it's obvious to everyone here by the lack of discussion in your post. Negativity and hyperbole are evidence of one thing, an inability to respond in a thoughtful way.

    This is a discussion forum. Let's discuss the draft, both the pros and the cons of it. Not JUST the Pros. That is unless YOU can guarantee the rest of us that all of these players will be starters for The Seahawks and that they will win us the 2015 Superbowl. Then by all means I'd be on board with trashing the naysayers.

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