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Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 2:48 am
  • I think he is he most important player on the board tonite for Seattle.

    With the Rams getting better up the middle, we need an ass kicker who can play guard, and considering how Unger played last year and his injuries, an ass kicker who can play center as well is a need. Martin fills both roles.

    Put his game vs ND on and you will love everything about his game. Plus, he is only 20.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 3:22 am
  • wow great find man!!! :D but idk if we go center? since they consider Lemuel Jeanpierre a solid back up. i like Lem ,this guy Martin seems better but idk man i just dont see us drafting a Center :(
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 3:26 am
  • danp1990 wrote:wow great find man!!! :D but idk if we go center? since they consider Lemuel Jeanpierre a solid back up. i like Lem ,this guy Martin seems better but idk man i just dont see us drafting a Center :(

    He is a guard as well.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 6:31 am
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    danp1990 wrote:wow great find man!!! :D but idk if we go center? since they consider Lemuel Jeanpierre a solid back up. i like Lem ,this guy Martin seems better but idk man i just dont see us drafting a Center :(

    He is a guard as well.

    Said to be a C or RG. So, are you thinking Sweezy needs to be at least challenged if not replaced? Everything I seem to hear about Sweezy is that he's constantly improving and one of the better lineman. Not knocking Martin. I know he's a coveted player in the 2nd round (and he's no secret.) I think the Saints and 49ers could also be targeting Martin.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 6:35 am
  • I've been tooting his horn for awhile. Totally agree. He will be dominant in a few years and has versatility. Kid played all his college games at age 19 or younger. That's pretty crazy. Huge physical development/upside left in the tank with him.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 6:58 am
  • Martin is shorter than ideal for a RT, but has 34 inch arms . . . that's premium tackle length. I know he didn't play there in college, but would it be possible to move him outside to RT?

    His tape is really good. Man handled Louis Nix. Does a great job shooting to the second level and blocking linebackers. Didn't see any guffaws in pass protection. Hard not to like the kid,but IIRC the team is looking harder at tackles than guards, right?
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 7:03 am
  • If Unger isn't healthy/improved this year, I really liked LJP last year. He seemed like he really was outplaying the injured Unger.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 7:07 am
  • EverydayImRusselin wrote:If Unger isn't healthy/improved this year, I really liked LJP last year. He seemed like he really was outplaying the injured Unger.


    Rumor is Lem couldn't make the line call, and that Russell was having to call protections for him. That's a major issue IMO.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 7:29 am
  • Can he play on the left side? We're gonna need a replacement for Carpenter.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 7:31 am
  • SeatownJay wrote:Can he play on the left side? We're gonna need a replacement for Carpenter.


    If he can play center, he can play either guard spot. I suspect if they draft Martin its not to push Unger, its to push the guards.

    Still think they prefer a tackle, though.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 9:13 am
  • I don't know, I think guard would be the most important since Russell was getting pressure up the middle. I think they go New Orleans route and protect their "less than ideal height" QB up the middle.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 12:20 pm
  • The more I read about this guy, the more I like him. If you go back and watch the SuperB Owl, Max Unger looked lost and let DL run right by him untouched for TFLs. It was horrible to watch.

    Against the 49ers when RW made that big scramble, Unger ran after a fat DT to block him (as if he could catch Wilson) and let one of SF's Linebackers blow up Russell just as he made that big throw.

    I don't know if he was injured during the playoffs or what, but it was hurting our game.

    The more I think about it, the more that C/G looks like the perfect pick. Nice call Scotte.

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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 12:39 pm
  • I said to my brother at the end of the first round last night that if Seattle kept the pick, I was rooting for them to take Martin. I was mildly surprised Martin made it to us.

    Even if Unger does bounce back, we still need more muscle inside.

    And I'm not sure Unger will bounce back, as he was an over-achiever in 2011 and 2012. That's not to say Unger is over-rated or sucks or anything like that, but usually low BMI guys like him are not good in power run situations. Unger kicked ass as a power runner in 2011 and 2012, but sucked in 2013 in that respect. Injuries played a factor, but given how his previous performance defied his build it's fair to wonder if 2013 was about regression to the mean as well.

    Anyway, it's good to be prepared either way. If Martin is there, they'd be adding the draft's very best interior run blocker. A guy who can play center or guard, and is just 20 years old. He's drawn some comparisons to Alex Mack. We could use an Alex Mack.
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Fri May 09, 2014 7:19 pm
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Fri May 09, 2014 8:04 pm
  • Hawk Strap wrote:Jinx

    No shit. I am truly bummed he is a Niner.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Sat May 10, 2014 12:57 am
  • Meh, he's not that good.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Mon May 12, 2014 1:14 pm
  • hawknation2014 wrote:Meh, he's not that good.


    LOL.

    "This guy is good". "We should get this guy". "This guy could compete to start".

    "He's a Niner".

    "Meh, he's not that good".


    Not even arguing the exchange...the commentary just cracked me up. :D
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Mon May 12, 2014 1:51 pm
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    hawknation2014 wrote:Meh, he's not that good.


    LOL.

    "This guy is good". "We should get this guy". "This guy could compete to start".

    "He's a Niner".

    "Meh, he's not that good".


    Not even arguing the exchange...the commentary just cracked me up. :D

    Get over yourself. Even players Seattle drafted had people disliking the pick.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Mon May 12, 2014 3:24 pm
  • Marvin49 wrote:
    hawknation2014 wrote:Meh, he's not that good.


    LOL.

    "This guy is good". "We should get this guy". "This guy could compete to start".

    "He's a Niner".

    "Meh, he's not that good".


    Not even arguing the exchange...the commentary just cracked me up. :D


    You're making a big assumption here . . . You should read the multiple criticisms I have written about Martin on this board over the last two months.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Mon May 12, 2014 3:33 pm
  • Posted on FEB 20, 2014:
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    hawknation2014 wrote:I don't get Martin at all. He looks slow and weak to me. He had a terrible 2012 season at offensive guard, and one year later at center, and now he's suddenly a top center prospect? It doesn't add up.


    hawknation2014 wrote:Martin was arguably USC's worst offensive linemen in 2012. He was benched twice: once against ASU in favor of a walk-on named Abe Markowitz and then in their bowl game in favor of a true freshman named Max Tuerk. Martin allowed multiple sacks in losses in the previous two games, which led to being replaced with less experienced players. Tuerk was named All-Conference Honorable Mention, while Martin received no honors from the conference that year.

    His play improved enough in 2013 to earn All-Conference Honors, but he was far from the best center in the Pac-12. That honor should go to Oregon's Hronis Grassu, who is a much better athlete.

    This is just an incredibly weak year for center prospects. Martin has a terrible year playing guard on his resume, and a medicare year as a center. He has no power and is very slow out of his stance. I think this is another one of those times where draftniks will overrate the fact that a center is big with long arms. Does he have legitimate power? No. Most of his weight is "bad weight." Does he have ideal quickness for the center position? Absolutely not.

    I wouldn't even think about considering him until the end of the fifth round.


    Posted on MAY 05, 2014:
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    hawknation2014 wrote:Unfortunately, our scouts aren't allowed to comment on such things for obvious reasons. I agree with this assessment of Martin; would not touch him in the first three rounds. Slow, weak, and inconsistent. I don't think he's an NFL starter.

    I have watched every game he's played in the last three years. I remember all the sacks and tackles for loss Martin allowed this year. I watched him get benched after giving up two sacks against Stanford in 2012, and then he got benched again in the Sun Bowl after allowing two sacks against Notre Dame. On top of that, he has knee problems. He's not an NFL player.


    hawknation2014 wrote:It's a late pre-draft smokescreen. Martin will be there at No. 64, but the Seahawks won't consider taking him.

    Here's what some scouts had to say about Martin:

    "On tape he looked like he was a pudgy little rascal," one scout said. "He had a little bit of uneven in his play. I wondered about strength if he gets covered up with a nose. He was real competitive. You knew he was leading the pack. He was athletic enough with good strength, not great strength." Started 20 games at LG before moving to the pivot in 2013 and starting 13. "Better player than he is an athlete," another scout said. "He's not great at the second level. Kind of a Steady-Eddie, but effective." Longest arms (34) among centers. Wonderlic of 20. "Boy, I didn't like that guy at all," a third scout said. "I thought that guy was soft and non-physical. He's got a bad body."
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Tue May 13, 2014 2:18 pm
  • hawknation2014 wrote:Posted on FEB 20, 2014:
    viewtopic.php?f=18&t=90543&p=1277861&hilit=martin#p1277861

    hawknation2014 wrote:I don't get Martin at all. He looks slow and weak to me. He had a terrible 2012 season at offensive guard, and one year later at center, and now he's suddenly a top center prospect? It doesn't add up.


    hawknation2014 wrote:Martin was arguably USC's worst offensive linemen in 2012. He was benched twice: once against ASU in favor of a walk-on named Abe Markowitz and then in their bowl game in favor of a true freshman named Max Tuerk. Martin allowed multiple sacks in losses in the previous two games, which led to being replaced with less experienced players. Tuerk was named All-Conference Honorable Mention, while Martin received no honors from the conference that year.

    His play improved enough in 2013 to earn All-Conference Honors, but he was far from the best center in the Pac-12. That honor should go to Oregon's Hronis Grassu, who is a much better athlete.

    This is just an incredibly weak year for center prospects. Martin has a terrible year playing guard on his resume, and a medicare year as a center. He has no power and is very slow out of his stance. I think this is another one of those times where draftniks will overrate the fact that a center is big with long arms. Does he have legitimate power? No. Most of his weight is "bad weight." Does he have ideal quickness for the center position? Absolutely not.

    I wouldn't even think about considering him until the end of the fifth round.


    Posted on MAY 05, 2014:
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    hawknation2014 wrote:Unfortunately, our scouts aren't allowed to comment on such things for obvious reasons. I agree with this assessment of Martin; would not touch him in the first three rounds. Slow, weak, and inconsistent. I don't think he's an NFL starter.

    I have watched every game he's played in the last three years. I remember all the sacks and tackles for loss Martin allowed this year. I watched him get benched after giving up two sacks against Stanford in 2012, and then he got benched again in the Sun Bowl after allowing two sacks against Notre Dame. On top of that, he has knee problems. He's not an NFL player.


    hawknation2014 wrote:It's a late pre-draft smokescreen. Martin will be there at No. 64, but the Seahawks won't consider taking him.

    Here's what some scouts had to say about Martin:

    "On tape he looked like he was a pudgy little rascal," one scout said. "He had a little bit of uneven in his play. I wondered about strength if he gets covered up with a nose. He was real competitive. You knew he was leading the pack. He was athletic enough with good strength, not great strength." Started 20 games at LG before moving to the pivot in 2013 and starting 13. "Better player than he is an athlete," another scout said. "He's not great at the second level. Kind of a Steady-Eddie, but effective." Longest arms (34) among centers. Wonderlic of 20. "Boy, I didn't like that guy at all," a third scout said. "I thought that guy was soft and non-physical. He's got a bad body."


    I wasn't even arguing whether he was any good or not. The thread was just funny to me.

    A couple peeps who like him, followed by the report that he was a niner followed by 1 post that he's not that good.

    You have to admit it looks funny.

    I'm not saying anything about the pick itself.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Tue May 13, 2014 5:28 pm
  • Marvin49 wrote:I wasn't even arguing whether he was any good or not. The thread was just funny to me.

    A couple peeps who like him, followed by the report that he was a niner followed by 1 post that he's not that good.

    You have to admit it looks funny.

    I'm not saying anything about the pick itself.


    Above, I pretty much dismantled your insinuation that my low grade for Martin has anything to do with the fact that he's a 49er.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Tue May 13, 2014 5:36 pm
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    hawknation2014 wrote:Posted on FEB 20, 2014:
    viewtopic.php?f=18&t=90543&p=1277861&hilit=martin#p1277861

    hawknation2014 wrote:I don't get Martin at all. He looks slow and weak to me. He had a terrible 2012 season at offensive guard, and one year later at center, and now he's suddenly a top center prospect? It doesn't add up.


    hawknation2014 wrote:Martin was arguably USC's worst offensive linemen in 2012. He was benched twice: once against ASU in favor of a walk-on named Abe Markowitz and then in their bowl game in favor of a true freshman named Max Tuerk. Martin allowed multiple sacks in losses in the previous two games, which led to being replaced with less experienced players. Tuerk was named All-Conference Honorable Mention, while Martin received no honors from the conference that year.

    His play improved enough in 2013 to earn All-Conference Honors, but he was far from the best center in the Pac-12. That honor should go to Oregon's Hronis Grassu, who is a much better athlete.

    This is just an incredibly weak year for center prospects. Martin has a terrible year playing guard on his resume, and a medicare year as a center. He has no power and is very slow out of his stance. I think this is another one of those times where draftniks will overrate the fact that a center is big with long arms. Does he have legitimate power? No. Most of his weight is "bad weight." Does he have ideal quickness for the center position? Absolutely not.

    I wouldn't even think about considering him until the end of the fifth round.


    Posted on MAY 05, 2014:
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    hawknation2014 wrote:Unfortunately, our scouts aren't allowed to comment on such things for obvious reasons. I agree with this assessment of Martin; would not touch him in the first three rounds. Slow, weak, and inconsistent. I don't think he's an NFL starter.

    I have watched every game he's played in the last three years. I remember all the sacks and tackles for loss Martin allowed this year. I watched him get benched after giving up two sacks against Stanford in 2012, and then he got benched again in the Sun Bowl after allowing two sacks against Notre Dame. On top of that, he has knee problems. He's not an NFL player.


    hawknation2014 wrote:It's a late pre-draft smokescreen. Martin will be there at No. 64, but the Seahawks won't consider taking him.

    Here's what some scouts had to say about Martin:

    "On tape he looked like he was a pudgy little rascal," one scout said. "He had a little bit of uneven in his play. I wondered about strength if he gets covered up with a nose. He was real competitive. You knew he was leading the pack. He was athletic enough with good strength, not great strength." Started 20 games at LG before moving to the pivot in 2013 and starting 13. "Better player than he is an athlete," another scout said. "He's not great at the second level. Kind of a Steady-Eddie, but effective." Longest arms (34) among centers. Wonderlic of 20. "Boy, I didn't like that guy at all," a third scout said. "I thought that guy was soft and non-physical. He's got a bad body."


    I wasn't even arguing whether he was any good or not. The thread was just funny to me.

    A couple peeps who like him, followed by the report that he was a niner followed by 1 post that he's not that good.

    You have to admit it looks funny.

    I'm not saying anything about the pick itself.


    Marvin,

    What he is saying is that he didn't like him before the draft so his opinion is unaffected by him being a 49er. Then he posted evidence that he didn't like him. That's all.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Tue May 20, 2014 2:58 pm
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    hawknation2014 wrote:Posted on FEB 20, 2014:
    viewtopic.php?f=18&t=90543&p=1277861&hilit=martin#p1277861

    hawknation2014 wrote:I don't get Martin at all. He looks slow and weak to me. He had a terrible 2012 season at offensive guard, and one year later at center, and now he's suddenly a top center prospect? It doesn't add up.


    hawknation2014 wrote:Martin was arguably USC's worst offensive linemen in 2012. He was benched twice: once against ASU in favor of a walk-on named Abe Markowitz and then in their bowl game in favor of a true freshman named Max Tuerk. Martin allowed multiple sacks in losses in the previous two games, which led to being replaced with less experienced players. Tuerk was named All-Conference Honorable Mention, while Martin received no honors from the conference that year.

    His play improved enough in 2013 to earn All-Conference Honors, but he was far from the best center in the Pac-12. That honor should go to Oregon's Hronis Grassu, who is a much better athlete.

    This is just an incredibly weak year for center prospects. Martin has a terrible year playing guard on his resume, and a medicare year as a center. He has no power and is very slow out of his stance. I think this is another one of those times where draftniks will overrate the fact that a center is big with long arms. Does he have legitimate power? No. Most of his weight is "bad weight." Does he have ideal quickness for the center position? Absolutely not.

    I wouldn't even think about considering him until the end of the fifth round.


    Posted on MAY 05, 2014:
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    hawknation2014 wrote:Unfortunately, our scouts aren't allowed to comment on such things for obvious reasons. I agree with this assessment of Martin; would not touch him in the first three rounds. Slow, weak, and inconsistent. I don't think he's an NFL starter.

    I have watched every game he's played in the last three years. I remember all the sacks and tackles for loss Martin allowed this year. I watched him get benched after giving up two sacks against Stanford in 2012, and then he got benched again in the Sun Bowl after allowing two sacks against Notre Dame. On top of that, he has knee problems. He's not an NFL player.


    hawknation2014 wrote:It's a late pre-draft smokescreen. Martin will be there at No. 64, but the Seahawks won't consider taking him.

    Here's what some scouts had to say about Martin:

    "On tape he looked like he was a pudgy little rascal," one scout said. "He had a little bit of uneven in his play. I wondered about strength if he gets covered up with a nose. He was real competitive. You knew he was leading the pack. He was athletic enough with good strength, not great strength." Started 20 games at LG before moving to the pivot in 2013 and starting 13. "Better player than he is an athlete," another scout said. "He's not great at the second level. Kind of a Steady-Eddie, but effective." Longest arms (34) among centers. Wonderlic of 20. "Boy, I didn't like that guy at all," a third scout said. "I thought that guy was soft and non-physical. He's got a bad body."


    I wasn't even arguing whether he was any good or not. The thread was just funny to me.

    A couple peeps who like him, followed by the report that he was a niner followed by 1 post that he's not that good.

    You have to admit it looks funny.

    I'm not saying anything about the pick itself.


    Marvin,

    What he is saying is that he didn't like him before the draft so his opinion is unaffected by him being a 49er. Then he posted evidence that he didn't like him. That's all.


    Nah...I understood.

    It just read funny. :) I get that he never liked the guy. Just funny reading the thread.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Tue May 20, 2014 3:22 pm
  • Re-read the thread Marvin,

    1. A few people said they liked him and hoped the Seahawks would draft him.
    2. One person said he wasn't good after he was drafted by the 49ers.
    3. You then questioned that person saying that it was because he was a 49er that he had that opinion and said it was funny.
    4. That person proved he has never liked Martin and linked to posts in other threads proving that exact point.

    So in summary, there was one negative comment about Martin and that caused you to jump to conclusions. He proved he had the same opinion prior to the pick and now you still carry on and think it is somehow funny.
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Tue May 20, 2014 3:41 pm
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Wed May 21, 2014 7:01 am
  • bigtrain21 wrote:Re-read the thread Marvin,

    1. A few people said they liked him and hoped the Seahawks would draft him.
    2. One person said he wasn't good after he was drafted by the 49ers.
    3. You then questioned that person saying that it was because he was a 49er that he had that opinion and said it was funny.
    4. That person proved he has never liked Martin and linked to posts in other threads proving that exact point.

    So in summary, there was one negative comment about Martin and that caused you to jump to conclusions. He proved he had the same opinion prior to the pick and now you still carry on and think it is somehow funny.


    oh. my. god.

    Its not complicated people.

    It READ as funny. That's it. If you went to a Niner page and saw Niner fans post that they wanted a player, a few more post about how they liked him, then Seattle took him and then a guy posted they don't like him...you'd think it was just as funny as I did.

    Stop being defensive. It just read as funny. I get that he never liked the guy. Was never even arguing his critique (which I said explicitly).

    Jeez peoples....have a sense of humor. LOL.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Wed May 21, 2014 1:31 pm
  • Marvin49 wrote:
    bigtrain21 wrote:Re-read the thread Marvin,

    1. A few people said they liked him and hoped the Seahawks would draft him.
    2. One person said he wasn't good after he was drafted by the 49ers.
    3. You then questioned that person saying that it was because he was a 49er that he had that opinion and said it was funny.
    4. That person proved he has never liked Martin and linked to posts in other threads proving that exact point.

    So in summary, there was one negative comment about Martin and that caused you to jump to conclusions. He proved he had the same opinion prior to the pick and now you still carry on and think it is somehow funny.


    oh. my. god.

    Its not complicated people.

    It READ as funny. That's it. If you went to a Niner page and saw Niner fans post that they wanted a player, a few more post about how they liked him, then Seattle took him and then a guy posted they don't like him...you'd think it was just as funny as I did.

    Stop being defensive. It just read as funny. I get that he never liked the guy. Was never even arguing his critique (which I said explicitly).

    Jeez peoples....have a sense of humor. LOL.


    As long as you are not implying that I am biased against Martin because he was selected by the 9ers, I have no problem with you having a laugh. Absurdity, such as viewing individuals with differing opinion as a monolith and making hasty assumptions, can be funny.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Wed May 21, 2014 1:54 pm
  • Lol
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Wed May 21, 2014 2:18 pm
  • hawknation2014 wrote:
    Marvin49 wrote:
    bigtrain21 wrote:Re-read the thread Marvin,

    1. A few people said they liked him and hoped the Seahawks would draft him.
    2. One person said he wasn't good after he was drafted by the 49ers.
    3. You then questioned that person saying that it was because he was a 49er that he had that opinion and said it was funny.
    4. That person proved he has never liked Martin and linked to posts in other threads proving that exact point.

    So in summary, there was one negative comment about Martin and that caused you to jump to conclusions. He proved he had the same opinion prior to the pick and now you still carry on and think it is somehow funny.


    oh. my. god.

    Its not complicated people.

    It READ as funny. That's it. If you went to a Niner page and saw Niner fans post that they wanted a player, a few more post about how they liked him, then Seattle took him and then a guy posted they don't like him...you'd think it was just as funny as I did.

    Stop being defensive. It just read as funny. I get that he never liked the guy. Was never even arguing his critique (which I said explicitly).

    Jeez peoples....have a sense of humor. LOL.


    As long as you are not implying that I am biased against Martin because he was selected by the 9ers, I have no problem with you having a laugh. Absurdity, such as viewing individuals with differing opinion as a monolith and making hasty assumptions, can be funny.


    SMDH. LOL. I give up. You peeps take ourselves way, way too seriously sometimes.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Wed May 21, 2014 2:30 pm
  • Marvin49 wrote:
    hawknation2014 wrote:
    Marvin49 wrote:
    bigtrain21 wrote:Re-read the thread Marvin,

    1. A few people said they liked him and hoped the Seahawks would draft him.
    2. One person said he wasn't good after he was drafted by the 49ers.
    3. You then questioned that person saying that it was because he was a 49er that he had that opinion and said it was funny.
    4. That person proved he has never liked Martin and linked to posts in other threads proving that exact point.

    So in summary, there was one negative comment about Martin and that caused you to jump to conclusions. He proved he had the same opinion prior to the pick and now you still carry on and think it is somehow funny.


    oh. my. god.

    Its not complicated people.

    It READ as funny. That's it. If you went to a Niner page and saw Niner fans post that they wanted a player, a few more post about how they liked him, then Seattle took him and then a guy posted they don't like him...you'd think it was just as funny as I did.

    Stop being defensive. It just read as funny. I get that he never liked the guy. Was never even arguing his critique (which I said explicitly).

    Jeez peoples....have a sense of humor. LOL.


    As long as you are not implying that I am biased against Martin because he was selected by the 9ers, I have no problem with you having a laugh. Absurdity, such as viewing individuals with differing opinion as a monolith and making hasty assumptions, can be funny.


    SMDH. LOL. I give up. You peeps take ourselves way, way too seriously sometimes.



    THERE WAS ONE PERSON IN THIS THREAD THAT SAID ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT MARTIN AND HE PROVED HE DIDN'T LIKE MARTIN BEFORE THE DRAFT YOU DUMBASS!
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Wed May 21, 2014 2:39 pm
  • bigtrain21 wrote:
    Marvin49 wrote:
    hawknation2014 wrote:
    Marvin49 wrote:
    oh. my. god.

    Its not complicated people.

    It READ as funny. That's it. If you went to a Niner page and saw Niner fans post that they wanted a player, a few more post about how they liked him, then Seattle took him and then a guy posted they don't like him...you'd think it was just as funny as I did.

    Stop being defensive. It just read as funny. I get that he never liked the guy. Was never even arguing his critique (which I said explicitly).

    Jeez peoples....have a sense of humor. LOL.


    As long as you are not implying that I am biased against Martin because he was selected by the 9ers, I have no problem with you having a laugh. Absurdity, such as viewing individuals with differing opinion as a monolith and making hasty assumptions, can be funny.


    SMDH. LOL. I give up. You peeps take ourselves way, way too seriously sometimes.



    THERE WAS ONE PERSON IN THIS THREAD THAT SAID ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT MARTIN AND HE PROVED HE DIDN'T LIKE MARTIN BEFORE THE DRAFT YOU DUMBASS!


    Wow. The butt hurt runs deep with this one.

    If you had actually read my posts I mentioned that MYSELF. Sigh. Lighten up.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Wed May 21, 2014 2:48 pm
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    Wow. The butt hurt runs deep with this one.

    If you had actually read my posts I mentioned that MYSELF. Sigh. Lighten up.



    Why are you laughing and acting like you made a point when nothing was funny and no one contradicted themselves? You laughed at a situation that didn't happen and then are still acting like it was funny. It's very odd behavior and weird that you would continue to defend yourself.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Wed May 21, 2014 3:23 pm
  • bigtrain21 wrote:
    Marvin49 wrote:
    Wow. The butt hurt runs deep with this one.

    If you had actually read my posts I mentioned that MYSELF. Sigh. Lighten up.



    Why are you laughing and acting like you made a point when nothing was funny and no one contradicted themselves? You laughed at a situation that didn't happen and then are still acting like it was funny. It's very odd behavior and weird that you would continue to defend yourself.


    I'm going to try to explain this one more time....and then I give up. I'll make this as simple as possible.

    I'll use an analogy.

    There was a picture I saw a few days ago that looked like a boys head had been shoved up a dogs a$$.

    It was just an accidental forced perspective picture and the boy was in fact several feet behind the dog.

    The picture is still funny. I'm not making fun of the boy or the dog. Its a humorous picture.

    The reality of the picture is that nothing odd was going on but it still makes for a funny picture

    Ya get it now? If not...then I don't know what to tell you.
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Wed May 21, 2014 5:07 pm
  • Marvin49 wrote:
    bigtrain21 wrote:
    Marvin49 wrote:
    Wow. The butt hurt runs deep with this one.

    If you had actually read my posts I mentioned that MYSELF. Sigh. Lighten up.



    Why are you laughing and acting like you made a point when nothing was funny and no one contradicted themselves? You laughed at a situation that didn't happen and then are still acting like it was funny. It's very odd behavior and weird that you would continue to defend yourself.


    I'm going to try to explain this one more time....and then I give up. I'll make this as simple as possible.

    I'll use an analogy.

    There was a picture I saw a few days ago that looked like a boys head had been shoved up a dogs a$$.

    It was just an accidental forced perspective picture and the boy was in fact several feet behind the dog.

    The picture is still funny. I'm not making fun of the boy or the dog. Its a humorous picture.

    The reality of the picture is that nothing odd was going on but it still makes for a funny picture

    Ya get it now? If not...then I don't know what to tell you.


    Lol!
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Wed May 21, 2014 9:27 pm
  • bigtrain21 wrote:
    Marvin49 wrote:
    bigtrain21 wrote:
    Marvin49 wrote:
    Wow. The butt hurt runs deep with this one.

    If you had actually read my posts I mentioned that MYSELF. Sigh. Lighten up.



    Why are you laughing and acting like you made a point when nothing was funny and no one contradicted themselves? You laughed at a situation that didn't happen and then are still acting like it was funny. It's very odd behavior and weird that you would continue to defend yourself.


    I'm going to try to explain this one more time....and then I give up. I'll make this as simple as possible.

    I'll use an analogy.

    There was a picture I saw a few days ago that looked like a boys head had been shoved up a dogs a$$.

    It was just an accidental forced perspective picture and the boy was in fact several feet behind the dog.

    The picture is still funny. I'm not making fun of the boy or the dog. Its a humorous picture.

    The reality of the picture is that nothing odd was going on but it still makes for a funny picture

    Ya get it now? If not...then I don't know what to tell you.


    Lol!


    Lol
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Tue Jun 03, 2014 10:19 pm
  • Marvin is funny. Hilarious even. Every time I see him post here I have to laugh out loud. Surely he must have been a Court Jester in a previous life. :P

    However, we're talking about Marcus Martin as a prospect, not just arguing in circles & splitting hairs right???

    IMO Marcus Martin is meh.
    Low SPARQ. i.e. so not the Seahawks type 'o flavor. :179422:

    BUT... the Niners run a power running game, and now have added Martin & Hyde. Uff Da! :thfight7:

    Now, is he functionally better than Goodwin right now this second? We'll see in a few months I guess.
    Personally, I'm not certain he is a plug and play starter this year 'cuz he so young...
    Youth and Potential vs. Age and Experience. A Classic battle. I wonder if their O-Line improves this year or not.

    Fast forwarding into the future...
    Martin could be an All Pro...sure.
    However, It's also quite probable he could be an average Guard/Center backup/depth player for a few years.

    Personally, I view him simply as a cheap replacement for Iupati. Yet what the hell do I know? Nada.
    But If I was an opponent's GM I would think Hmmm...
    A solid move, and a good pick for the 49ers. And Great value. Wow. :snack:

    (And yeah... How 32 teams could pass on this guy multiple times, for 2 days, was boggling me mind quite a while watching the draft. Especially New Orleans, which is where I thought he was headed. They needed a center badly, or so I supposed. I was wrong. Oh well. They got Goodwin after June 1st instead. Touche'.) :1:

    Back to the Niners... IMO this was their best pick of the draft because they need that young depth.
    And Marcus Martin is a young player that can fill multiple positions.


    In summation, since he is a 49er... I must hate him forever :49ersmall:

    But can't we all just get along?
    :3-1:
    Right Marvin?
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Re: Marcus Martin.
Wed Jun 04, 2014 4:13 pm
  • There is no conceivable way Martin will be an All Pro. He is way too slow off the ball and has zero power. Mebane would literally embarrass him.
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