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What 1 player do you not want in the draft
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  • Like the title says, who is the one player you want the Hawks to avoid no matter what in the draft?

    For me its, even though I want us to go WR heavy pretty early, Kelvin Benjamin. For someone that's a such a big WR, he plays so much like a small WR.
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  • It's Benjamin for me too. I don't follow college ball too much but every time I've seen him play, I've come away thinking the same as you
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  • I think Benjamin and Sua-Filo are diversionary smoke clouds for the Seahawks.
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  • Benjamin is my big "oh hell no" guy as well, same Ryan Shazier, might be a good player, but talk about a pick that's hard to get excited for when we're already set at LB.
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  • Kirby Van Der Kamp. Punter just isn't a position of need.
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  • If we are talking first round, a guard of any stripe would irk me. I just don't see that kind of talent there to warrant a first round selection.

    Benjamin is a guy I would not be excited about, but for some reason if we draft him I know I would get excited about him, if that makes sense. His career tape is so far below his potential it scares me, but his potential is so monstrous it excites me.

    Any DT not names Hageman or Donald. I think its a really weak DT class overall.

    A running back. I know we're probably going to draft one, and probably earlier than expected, but it would irritate me.
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  • Kelvin Benjamin: I just don't see it. Great frame, everything else is meh. Seems to lack passion.

    Xavier Su'a Filo: Don't understand the hype. Good player but didn't see him dominate the Pac-12 like I'd want from a 1st round OG who is now 23 years old.

    Brandon Coleman: I love everything about him except I just don't see a natural receiver (how do you teach this?). I think it's going to take a top 2 round pick to get him. The upside is huge, but the floor is a cliff/canyon IMO.

    Brandin Cooks: Good little player, just not sure of the fit and don't like the idea of him as a R1 WR (for Seattle). Why take Cooks at 32 when you could take Josh Huff in R4? Obviously Cooks has an extra gear, but is it enough to warrant a R1 selection for SEA?

    Ra'Shede Hageman: See Brandon Coleman. Immense upside but man does he scare me. Could be Richard Seymour or could be a nobody.

    David Yankey: Another Pac-12 OL that I do not understand the hype. Limited athlete. Can't see him as anything more than a very average interior OL, especially in the NFC West.

    **Just a caveat, I love the idea of raw physical talents and am certainly willing to gamble on upside. Some of the high upside/raw prospects I mentioned above; it simply boils down to me having a gut feeling that these guys won't do much (specifically KB, Coleman, and Hageman).
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  • Kelvin Benjamin and Brandin Cooks are two I don't want to see. I don't think I would want a receiving only TE like Jace Amaro either. But I could be convinced differently on that one.
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  • At 32 it's Bitonio or Shazier.
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  • Had this thread going once already but for me its Jace Amaro with Sua Filo a close second. I see them both mocked to us frequently and i don't want any part of either.
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  • Benjamin and any Washington Husky not named Bishop Sankey

    I don't want Amaro either, but not worried at all about that as I don't think he would even be a consideration at 32 or 64
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  • SeatownJay wrote:Kirby Van Der Kamp. Punter just isn't a position of need.


    Don't worry, he has Jaguar written all over him. ;)
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  • Su'a Filo and Yankey. Totally underwhelming to me as possible first rounders. 3rd or 4th round? Great. But no way in round 1.
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  • Cooks - There's better players available at WR
    Bitonio - I prefer Moses if they draft OT in round 1
    Filo - I don't want a guard in round one not this year
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:Benjamin and any Washington Husky not named Bishop Sankey


    Okay, this is just silly. I think what you meant to say was Austin Sefarian Jenkins and Keith Price. But all of them? What about Sean Parker? What's not to love about Sean Parker in the late rounds? He's probably going to be a better version of Jeron Johnson and we need another Jeron Johnson type right now. I'm also a really big fan of WR Kevin Smith, just a super polished receiver who plays much faster than his forty time. And for the record, I'd be thrilled to get ASJ any time after our first round pick. He may not have Jimmy Graham's speed but he is going to be one of the better mismatch TEs in the NFL. Talk to any half decent NFL personnel guy and they will talk your ear off about wanting to find mismatch creating players.

    The one I will sympathize with you on is Keith Price, but even he has some merits. He's basically the QB equivalent of Jermaine Kearse- he has one glaring flaw but if he fixes it, he's going to be surprise a lot of people. He's very smart and very accurate and decently mobile. But unfortunately he gets injured so easily and his fear of injury noticeably effects his play even when healthy.

    But otherwise I agree. Sankey is a stud and Benjamin is one of the more obvious draft landmines I've ever seen.
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  • Hands Down!, ''Aaron Donald'' but only if he slips past Minnesota thanks to Zimmer's agressive 4-3, Chicago at 14,and & the Cow-girls at 16...
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  • haha..i scimmed throught the bold print! LOL sorry for my stupidity there folks! hmmmmm i guess LG out of Stanford David Yankey.i wouldnt want him...
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  • kearly wrote:
    Hasselbeck wrote:Benjamin and any Washington Husky not named Bishop Sankey


    Okay, this is just silly. I think what you meant to say was Austin Sefarian Jenkins and Keith Price. But all of them? What about Sean Parker? What's not to love about Sean Parker in the late rounds? He's probably going to be a better version of Jeron Johnson and we need another Jeron Johnson type right now. I'm also a really big fan of WR Kevin Smith, just a super polished receiver who plays much faster than his forty time. And for the record, I'd be thrilled to get ASJ any time after our first round pick. He may not have Jimmy Graham's speed but he is going to be one of the better mismatch TEs in the NFL. Talk to any half decent NFL personnel guy and they will talk your ear off about wanting to find mismatch creating players.

    The one I will sympathize with you on is Keith Price, but even he has some merits. He's basically the QB equivalent of Jermaine Kearse- he has one glaring flaw but if he fixes it, he's going to be surprise a lot of people. He's very smart and very accurate and decently mobile. But unfortunately he gets injured so easily and his fear of injury noticeably effects his play even when healthy.

    But otherwise I agree. Sankey is a stud and Benjamin is one of the more obvious draft landmines I've ever seen.


    Agree to disagree on the other Huskies you named.. I'm not a big fan of ASJ.. maybe I have Jerramy Stevans PTSD but anyway.. wanted to comment on Sankey.

    I would be shocked if he were drafted by us, but if they drafted Sankey and moved Turbin for that 7th round pick they gave up for Pryor.. I'd be so pumped. Of course.. all that is a major stretch.
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  • Hasselbeck wrote:
    kearly wrote:
    Hasselbeck wrote:Benjamin and any Washington Husky not named Bishop Sankey


    Okay, this is just silly. I think what you meant to say was Austin Sefarian Jenkins and Keith Price. But all of them? What about Sean Parker? What's not to love about Sean Parker in the late rounds? He's probably going to be a better version of Jeron Johnson and we need another Jeron Johnson type right now. I'm also a really big fan of WR Kevin Smith, just a super polished receiver who plays much faster than his forty time. And for the record, I'd be thrilled to get ASJ any time after our first round pick. He may not have Jimmy Graham's speed but he is going to be one of the better mismatch TEs in the NFL. Talk to any half decent NFL personnel guy and they will talk your ear off about wanting to find mismatch creating players.

    The one I will sympathize with you on is Keith Price, but even he has some merits. He's basically the QB equivalent of Jermaine Kearse- he has one glaring flaw but if he fixes it, he's going to be surprise a lot of people. He's very smart and very accurate and decently mobile. But unfortunately he gets injured so easily and his fear of injury noticeably effects his play even when healthy.

    But otherwise I agree. Sankey is a stud and Benjamin is one of the more obvious draft landmines I've ever seen.


    Agree to disagree on the other Huskies you named.. I'm not a big fan of ASJ.. maybe I have Jerramy Stevans PTSD but anyway.. wanted to comment on Sankey.

    I would be shocked if he were drafted by us, but if they drafted Sankey and moved Turbin for that 7th round pick they gave up for Pryor.. I'd be so pumped. Of course.. all that is a major stretch.


    Never liked ASJ too much either...don't even know why
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  • Brandon Cooks I don't want to spend a 1st on another short WR.
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  • At this point I too genuinely hope the team doesn't pick a G @ 32.

    After that players I don't believe are worth their draft ranking are: Yankey, Su'a Filo, Bitonio, Amaro, WR- Matthews, and Dee Ford. Don't want any of them as I think they are overrated.

    The FO has a plan and we'll get what they pick but the player they'll pick will be picked for a reason and vision of how the player will fit going forward. so far they have done an exceptionally good job so it's hard to second guess their decisions which haven't been perfect but seriously have not been that bad.
    Until we develop a pass rush that will cause opposing teams to be forced to scheme to defend it we will never be able to completely take the final step. That was done and the final step was taken. The OLine still needs work.

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  • Hasselbeck wrote:Agree to disagree on the other Huskies you named.. I'm not a big fan of ASJ.. maybe I have Jerramy Stevans PTSD but anyway.. wanted to comment on Sankey.

    I would be shocked if he were drafted by us, but if they drafted Sankey and moved Turbin for that 7th round pick they gave up for Pryor.. I'd be so pumped. Of course.. all that is a major stretch.


    You should be a fan of Parker, he's a damn good player from a similar defensive system, will be dirt cheap, and fits a need. Smith is a pet favorite of mine, I think he's a good player but probably isn't fast enough for Seattle.

    I won't bother making the case for ASJ for two reasons. The first is that I'd be wasting my time, most likely. The second is that I'm not sure he fits Seattle's criteria. Seattle relies on TE pass pro a ton and that's ASJ's biggest issue by a mile. (Personally, I do think he will likely be a star in this league though with his natural receiving ability and size, he'll be a 2nd round gem for some lucky GM. He is actually a lot like Stevens in some ways, in all the good ways and almost none of the bad.)

    I doubt we'd get anything for Turbin at this point and I don't see Sankey as a fit, but I wouldn't mind being wrong one bit. I think Sankey is a better version of Giovanni Bernard, and Bernard would have been a rookie star if his coach had given him the reps he deserved.
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  • I remember being impressed by the physicality of the Huskies CB's every time I saw them, Parker in particular. I think he'd be a great fit for this team.
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  • kearly wrote:
    Hasselbeck wrote:Agree to disagree on the other Huskies you named.. I'm not a big fan of ASJ.. maybe I have Jerramy Stevans PTSD but anyway.. wanted to comment on Sankey.

    I would be shocked if he were drafted by us, but if they drafted Sankey and moved Turbin for that 7th round pick they gave up for Pryor.. I'd be so pumped. Of course.. all that is a major stretch.


    You should be a fan of Parker, he's a damn good player from a similar defensive system, will be dirt cheap, and fits a need. Smith is a pet favorite of mine, I think he's a good player but probably isn't fast enough for Seattle.

    I won't bother making the case for ASJ for two reasons. The first is that I'd be wasting my time, most likely. The second is that I'm not sure he fits Seattle's criteria. Seattle relies on TE pass pro a ton and that's ASJ's biggest issue by a mile. (Personally, I do think he will likely be a star in this league though with his natural receiving ability and size, he'll be a 2nd round gem for some lucky GM. He is actually a lot like Stevens in some ways, in all the good ways and almost none of the bad.)


    Awesome post. Including the (on-field) comparison of ASJ and JS. And that's nothing but good. Stevens has become the butt of bad jokes, but it sure wasn't his skill set that let him / us down.

    I think I just read ASJ ran a 4.5 the other day. At 6' 7", 265, a 4.5? FREAK. I have no idea why some (here) are so down on the kid (Dawg bias?). Moot point anyway, he won't be there at 32.
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  • Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado.....need I say more?
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  • HawkWow wrote:
    kearly wrote:
    Hasselbeck wrote:Agree to disagree on the other Huskies you named.. I'm not a big fan of ASJ.. maybe I have Jerramy Stevans PTSD but anyway.. wanted to comment on Sankey.

    I would be shocked if he were drafted by us, but if they drafted Sankey and moved Turbin for that 7th round pick they gave up for Pryor.. I'd be so pumped. Of course.. all that is a major stretch.


    You should be a fan of Parker, he's a damn good player from a similar defensive system, will be dirt cheap, and fits a need. Smith is a pet favorite of mine, I think he's a good player but probably isn't fast enough for Seattle.

    I won't bother making the case for ASJ for two reasons. The first is that I'd be wasting my time, most likely. The second is that I'm not sure he fits Seattle's criteria. Seattle relies on TE pass pro a ton and that's ASJ's biggest issue by a mile. (Personally, I do think he will likely be a star in this league though with his natural receiving ability and size, he'll be a 2nd round gem for some lucky GM. He is actually a lot like Stevens in some ways, in all the good ways and almost none of the bad.)


    Awesome post. Including the (on-field) comparison of ASJ and JS. And that's nothing but good. Stevens has become the butt of bad jokes, but it sure wasn't his skill set that let him / us down.

    I think I just read ASJ ran a 4.5 the other day. At 6' 7", 265, a 4.5? FREAK. I have no idea why some (here) are so down on the kid (Dawg bias?). Moot point anyway, he won't be there at 32.


    I have to agree with you two on ASJ. I don't get a lot of the hate for him on these boards. I guess people are only looking at last year when he was injured? The year before he showed flashes of brilliance and showed the ability to completely take over some games/situations. Last year he was 1. playing hurt, 2. having to stay in to block a ton because the O-line was terrible again, 3. Not being used well as Sarkisian's new offense did not fit him at all, and 4. he was suspended for a lot of the pre-season which hurt him in learn the new offense Sark put in...

    ASJ is a bit raw, but if he goes to a team with a good coaching staff (like the Seahawks) that can coach players up I seriously could see him becoming a star in the NFL.

    I don't think he plays quite as fast as Jimmy Graham but it's worth noting that he put up the exact same 40 time! (@ 11 Lbs. heavier than Graham to boot)

    Jimmy Graham - 4.56 40-yard dash http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jimmy-graham?id=497236

    Austin Seferian-Jenkins - 4.56 40-yard dash http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/9400/austin-seferian-jenkins

    He has all the physical tools to be an elite level pass catching TE in the NFL and with good coaching he has the ability to be a very very good Complete TE too.
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  • hawkfan68 wrote:Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado.....need I say more?


    Bummer for you, I can admit i kinda just looked at his weight read a few write ups and watch half a youtube highlight and I devalued him cause he wasn't the prototype 6'3 like I wanted and hasn't been mentioned much in mainstream.

    After watching two full highlight videos it's easy to see how he fits in seattle. The kid is a playmaker, really is so much like Desean Jackson but I think he might be a little better at routes and separation. Of all the WR's I watched Watkins, Beckham, and Richardson probably get the best separation with their quick twitch moves. Richardson got DB's to turn hips very easily. I was and still am high on Moncrief but watching him right after Richardson it is obvious that Richardson has elite quickness and his top end speed if will be scary for nfl teams.
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  • For me it would have been Johnny Football, but thankfully there was a snowball's chance in the pit of Hades that would have happened. Whew.

    I disagree with the above comments on Brandon Coleman. He's the guy I really hope we take with one of our 4th round picks. A lot of upside, and I have the faith that PC/JS can maximize that into a stellar player, or at the very worst, cut him loose and move on with little lost in the process.
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  • hawkfan68 wrote:Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado.....need I say more?


    Please do.
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  • hawkfan68 wrote:Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado.....need I say more?

    :lol: Too funny
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