Football Gameplan's 2014 NFL Draft Prospect Rankings - TE

Natethegreat

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Interesting, do you think ASJ would be available at 32 and if so would you take him there?
 
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Natethegreat":3fzvby5f said:
Interesting, do you think ASJ would be available at 32 and if so would you take him there?

I think he will…I think the biggest threat in the 1st round to take one would be the Jets…but he should be available at 32
 

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Jason Witten is actually a pretty good comp for ASJ. Not a game breaker, but a guy who could see average 5-10 targets a game in the right kind of offense and be very dependable on those targets. Only difference would be that Witten isn't the best red zone target, whereas ASJ is very dangerous in the red zone.
 

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I don't think these people see enough ASJ. Half the writers are East coast, and after 12 hrs of watching football, they're semi-comatose by the time the Dawgs take the field. You don't have to look further than the "pedestrian receivers" comments that are shared by others aside from Carter to know this is likely.

I read the other day that a concern with ASJ is that he got a DUI and was "suspended indefinitely by the team". I'm serious.

Does ASJ need a motivator to finish him out? Sure...and who better than Pete for that task? ASJ's catching radius is massive. He's frikin' megatron in that respect. I like the comparison to Witten, but I think ASJ is more likely to make the tougher catch...his body control just freakish (at his size).

I'm torn between ASJ and O-line. But I think ASJ, at 32, is likely to be much more productive / better value, than some late rd O lineman (including Martin).
 

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EmDiggy":3as3l6fy said:
Natethegreat":3as3l6fy said:
Interesting, do you think ASJ would be available at 32 and if so would you take him there?

I think he will…I think the biggest threat in the 1st round to take one would be the Jets…but he should be available at 32

I think the Patriots are a threat too.
 

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We keep talking about a big, fast wide receiver, but we already have Luke Willson, who could shift outside if we had ASJ at TE. I'd love it if we took ASJ at 32.
 

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Being that I've only seen a handful of UW games the past couple of years, how is ASJ at blocking? I know he's an amazing receiver, but when i watched them play I can't say I've been focused on the LOS and how he's done there.
 

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JMO but I think ASJ is a + blocker. Its definitely an asset. Probably the biggest reason he won the collegiate TE award despite going against guys with better stat lines.
 

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I'm going to diagree with McGruff and say that while Sefarian-Jenkins has the physical tools to a be a plus, or even elite blocker at TE, he has yet to actually show those skills on the field. He's light years ahead of Ebron or Amaro in this respect, but he still hasn't even scratched the surface on what he could become as a two way tight end.

Jason Witten is not a bad comparison for what he could become, a couple other guys he reminds me of, one current - Marcedes Lewis, one former - Ben Coates.
 

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Here's what Rob Rang has to say about ASJ:

STRENGTHS: Broad-shouldered, long-armed mismatch in the passing game with rare body control and soft hands for a man of his size. Good initial quickness off the snap and possesses very long arms and strong hands to get a clean release off the line of scrimmage.

Reliable route-runner. Finds holes in the defense and settles, presenting a massive target to his quarterback. Catches the ball with defenders in close proximity due to his size advantage, as well as concentration and toughness to hang on while absorbing a hit. Impressive flexibility and body control for a man of his size. Adjusts well to the ball, showing the range to leap high or bend low, exhibiting an impressive catch radius. Smooth accelerator with at least fair top-end speed.

Imposing ballcarrier with the ball in his hands, capable of running through arm-tackles. Improved significantly as a blocker in 2013, showing greater strength and aggression as the Huskies featured others in a new high-octane spread offense.

Displayed humility and accountability by serving one-day sentence in jail and speaking to youth (along with the arresting officer, and a mother of a high school-aged student killed in a DUI-related accident) about the dangers of alcohol after pleading guilty to a DUI rather than pleading out and taking a lesser sentence.

WEAKNESSES: Not as physically dominating as his size would indicate, playing with more finesse and technique than power. Does not possess the straight-line speed to challenge as a deep threat down the seam and isn't a nifty runner capable of eluding would-be tacklers.

DUI conviction based on a single-car accident on March 9, 2013 in which Seferian-Jenkins reportedly registered a 0.18 blood-alcohol content rating, more than twice Washington's .08 legal limit. Suffered a broken right pinkie prior to the 2013 season.

COMPARES TO: Marcedes Lewis, Jacksonville Jaguars - Like the former UCLA Bruins star, Seferian-Jenkins unique size and hands made him almost impossible to cover in college, especially in the red zone. Less than elite speed and fluidity, however, makes Seferian-Jenkins more of a traditional security blanket over the middle rather than the Jimmy Graham-like seam threat so en vogue in today's NFL.
 

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I think Rang's evaluation is fair.

The biggest negative would be for his size and agility, he could block better. But he's still a kid and wasn't asked to block (much) up until this past year, which was the year we went to a new offense, requiring more blocking from the TE and ASJ was slowed by the penalties surrounding the DUI and consequently got a late start with the offense. Even still, I thought he showed he is a more than capable blocker.

ASJ is huge, smart, athletic and coachable. That's a hard combo to beat. I wish he could play a year with Money Miller, but that is not likely. I am positive we will hear his name on Sportscenter for the next decade.
 

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ASJ reminds me of Martellus Bennett and Troy Niklas reminds me of a bigger Witten.
 

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Going to toot my own horn here, but I've been saying TE is our biggest need for months now. Why? Because ASJ can catch the ball, is a red zone target (one of our biggest needs) and can block. We kicked way too many field goals this year.

Some people way wide receiver, some say offensive lineman, split the difference and draft a tight end.

The BIGGEST concern for this team going forward is winning a tough NFCW where defense rules. Along with that concern is protecting Russell Wilson, something we did very poorly this past year, hence the left shoulder injury. People wondered why we went away from the read-option? Injury to our 2nd year QB.

How do you protect our Franchise QB? With blocking help and a huge target that helps him get rid of the ball early. I believe that's part of the reason Luke Willson was so important to John Schneider, and the reason that Zach Miller will not be released or restructured this year. The former can catch and get down the field, the latter can block and catch, specifically in that order.
 

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^ My thought's to a T.

You have physical freaks...then you have ASJ. For ASJ to have grown into his current size, without the typical, accompanying awkwardness associated with such growth is incredible. Since day 1, ASJ looked extremely coordinated and extremely natural with his size. hell, he may STILL be growing. One thing is for sure, he will continue to acclimate to his size and will only get better.

This would be much less awe-inspiring if not for his incredible hands. Lots of players are big, but I've seen few his size that has his hands and ability to contort his body as though he was 6'0" and 190. Additionally, he knows how to box out. This wasn't just from his stint with the B'ball team, he got on the B'ball team because of that natural ability. A red zone nightmare is what he is. Put the ball up and ASJ will out position his defender(s) and come down with the catch.

Frankly, I will be stunned if he's still at 32 (?)....but that's his projection, so there you go. Having watched every play of his college career, I would not be upset if we were picking at 20 and took him there. Who ever gets ASJ in the 1st will be damn glad a 5th year comes with his selection.
 

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kearly":1e8mlavh said:
Jason Witten is actually a pretty good comp for ASJ. Not a game breaker, but a guy who could see average 5-10 targets a game in the right kind of offense and be very dependable on those targets. Only difference would be that Witten isn't the best red zone target, whereas ASJ is very dangerous in the red zone.

Exactly.

I actually was disappointed in ASJ in college. He's still a 1st round NFL talent but he didn't command the ball like I thought he would in college. He's just too big, fast and powerful not to dominate a game.

I personally don't draft ASJ. Too much risk for me.
 

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I would much prefer Fiedorowicz in round 2 or early round 3 plus whomever we'd take at 32 than ASJ and whomever we'd get in the second.

Fiedorowicz is similar if a notch below ASJ's receiving ability. Both guys have great height, good catching radii, and big/soft hands. ASJ will probably run faster, but that remains to be seen. He is however a far superior blocker. He's just outstanding both inline blocking and in particular in space out in the flats. And he finishes blocks. It's something he clearly takes a ton of pride in, and if we're talking about replacing Miller, then blocking has to be front and center to skill set. Fiedorowicz isn't merely a + blocker. He's an outstanding blocker and very close in quality to a blocking specialist prospect. I would say his current blocking quality is ASJ's potential ceiling.

If this team is one that is going to feature WR screens, then Fiedorowicz is ideally suited to play TE on that side or to be lined up out wide. He has incredible balance and a gift for drilling faster/smaller players. He can redirect very quickly in response to corners trying to juke free of an oncoming block and drill them squarely.

At the Senior Bowl, he demonstrated that gift repeatedly -- earning universal praise and comparisons in blocking skill to the best OTs on the field.
 
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