Players to evaluate from the Cotton Bowl & Orange Bowl

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  • I got my eyes on Mizzou's WR L'Damian Washington (4.3 speed, 6'4 size) and Clemons WR Sammy Watkins. Anyone else you guys are scouting?
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  • I am just watching the Cotton bowl. Interesting game so far. A few interceptions...so far.
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  • I'm just going to watch it one time through today, but I am recording it to scout some players later.

    Missouri DE #52 Michael Sam, DE #47 Kony Ealy, and their highly underrated teammate #56 DE Shane Ray (Ray is the quickest of all Missouir's DE, but he is only a redshirt sophomore and is highly unlikely to declare for the draft).
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  • Ealy just got a couple of sacks. Nice work for him and he is about the right size too.
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  • I've really liked what I've seen out of Ealy. I'd love it if he became a Seahawk.
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  • I'm looking at Watkins and hope to god he doesn't end up a Rams or 49ers.
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  • I prefer Green-Beckam to Washington.
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  • SeatownJay wrote:I prefer Green-Beckam to Washington.


    Washington has no damn targets and Beckam has looked unimpressive to me. He appears to me, to be a guy with a low rec/target percentage unlike a Doug Baldwin or Golden Tate.
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  • Green-Beckam is only a sophomore, so he'll have one more year in school to polish his skills before he goes pro. I think he'll be a better player than Washington.
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  • I've only watched Washington on YouTube. He has all the tools to be the next A.J Green. Why A.J Green? Washington has a simaler body (6'4 and skinny). Washington is much faster than Green, but not as polished as a route runner as A.J Green coming out. They play somewhat similarly, although the sample size for A.J Green is larger. Target Rec Yard Avg TD
    2013 NFL season 178 98 1,426 14.6 11

    Point is, Washington has a garbage quarterback from what I've seen thus far, is on a heavy run/qb run team that doesn't allow him to get quality targets. I believe his targets vastly hold back his production and he would excel in a balanced offense (like Seattle's) and with a quarterback capable of getting him the ball (like Seattle's).

    Nice catches by Beckam and Washington there.
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  • Konya Ealy is looking really explosive.
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  • Okay if Watkins falls into the mid teens I'd be okay with trading up for him. He's ridiculous.
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  • Beast catch by Washington on the back shoulder fade!!!!
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  • EverydayImRusselin wrote:Okay if Watkins falls into the mid teens I'd be okay with trading up for him. He's ridiculous.


    Sadly I've missed the majority of Sammy Watkins's plays, what's he done exactly Russellin?
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  • 13 catches 200 yds 2 Td. Here's the 2nd.

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  • He's looking inside, ball goes outside, jumps, spins, high points it and comes down with the catch. That's the kind of catch I make in my dreams.
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  • Watkins is reminding me Cordarrelle Patterson (who I still wish we had, but probably not at the sacrifice of Percy Harvin)
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  • Tracy Moore, WR, OK state is a late round prospect, but the's a guy I could see us looking at. Good size and bulk, adequate speed, high effort player. The team has been putting good receivers into the NFL, and while Moore isn't Blackmon or Bryant, he's got skills.
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  • Sammy Watkins is the real deal for sure. I also like Vic Beasley out of Clemson. I'm not sure where he'd fit but i like his speed and he gets after the QB.
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  • If we can't retain both Tate and Baldwin meaning one of them is lost in free agency (although Doug is a restricted free agent and Tate is almost certainly back IMO) I'd love Sammy Watkins in the first.

    Imagine the packages you could put together with Watkins, Percy, Tate and or Baldwin, Kearse, Lockette, Willson, Miller, and our running backs that we all love so dearly.

    If we traded up for Watkins, and it cost us our 32nd and 64th picks, we'd no longer have a 1st, 2nd or 3rd round pick, but if we were to do this, I'd like to see us draft a few O-Lineman and the rest defense. With this logic our draft should look something like this.

    1.Watkins trade
    2. Watkins trade
    3. Percy trade
    4. O-Line
    5. DE
    6. O-Line
    7. CB
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  • Someone who caught my eye atleast with his season stats is Martavis Bryant of Clemson.His bio says he is 6'5 200.Put up only 42 rec this past season for 800+ but what caught my eye was his yards per catch is 19 yards.The rest of his years he has put up 24 yards per catch and 30.He is only a junior so I doubt he comes out but man to be 6'5 and have those kinda numbers is huge.

    The other one I like is Vic Beasley who fits our mold of a leo pretty nicely
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  • Braxton Miller and T. Boyd looked good. Yeah they made some late game errors but the Seahawks don't really need a starting QB....might be good backup types. Miller runs well and has raw passing skills but could be developed in the right system. He may fit the Seahawk system. Boyd may be gone in the 1-2 rounds. The rb from Ohio St...Carlos Hyde is solid. I think he may not be declaring this year though. Martavius Bryant is tall and could be a good rdzone threat but I don't know if he plans to declare. He's a junior. He'd be the #1 WR next year at Clemson should he elect to stay. Defensively, a couple of guys on Mizzou stood out - Sam and Ealy both DEs. Then there was a NT for Okla State - Bennett. He looked good.
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  • skater18000 wrote:If we can't retain both Tate and Baldwin meaning one of them is lost in free agency (although Doug is a restricted free agent and Tate is almost certainly back IMO) I'd love Sammy Watkins in the first.

    Imagine the packages you could put together with Watkins, Percy, Tate and or Baldwin, Kearse, Lockette, Willson, Miller, and our running backs that we all love so dearly.

    If we traded up for Watkins, and it cost us our 32nd and 64th picks, we'd no longer have a 1st, 2nd or 3rd round pick, but if we were to do this, I'd like to see us draft a few O-Lineman and the rest defense. With this logic our draft Ishould look something like this.

    1.Watkins trade
    2. Watkins trade
    3. Percy trade
    4. O-Line
    5. DE
    6. O-Line
    7. CB


    Seahawks aren't getting Watkins.

    If the Rams or Cleveland were smart they would take him 2nd or 4th overall despite having Austin and Gordon. Watkins his crazy and to me its he like Richard Sherman if he was super athletic and still a WR.
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  • Pandion Haliaetus wrote:
    Seahawks aren't getting Watkins.

    If the Rams or Cleveland were smart they would take him 2nd or 4th overall despite having Austin and Gordon. Watkins his crazy and to me its he like Richard Sherman if he was super athletic and still a WR.


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    Watkins is a top-5 overall talent and it would be near impossible for us to trade up that high in the 1st round to get Watkins.
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  • Kony Ealy declared. I don't think he will be available when we select but would like to get him.
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  • Michael Sam has a name that suggests that he was born to play OLB. I wonder if his middle name happens to be William?
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