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Damn. Throwing a lot away. All he had to do was get through one season. Hope he can get whatever is going on in his life figured out. I don't know this for a fact, but I wouldnt be surprised if he got kicked off the team and this is just Colt and Helfrich trying to protect his reputation.

Oh well, not shocked by this news. Gets rid of a distraction.

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Watch Pats draft him in round 3 and look smart doing so

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Aaron Fentress (Ducks beat writer) is reporting that sources tell him Colt was repeatedly missing meetings and team activities, and Helfrich told him that if he missed another one he'd be kicked off the team.

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For his sake, hopefully he can get his shite together because he's talented enough that he can bring he and his family riches beyond what he could have ever imagined.

He'll still get drafted because his workout numbers will be absolutely freakish, but I wouldn't count on him to ever amount to anything.


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Aaron Fentress (Ducks beat writer) is reporting that sources tell him Colt was repeatedly missing meetings and team activities, and Helfrich told him that if he missed another one he'd be kicked off the team.


In that article it said he's first round good. Is that true?


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Lyerla is most definitely First round good. Explosive athlete who is physical. Not many humans that size can move like he can. Too bad he's throwing it all away. I'd still gamble with a 4th rounder on him though. He could be right below Jimmy Graham as the most explosive TE in the NFL.


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Gap Filler wrote:
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Aaron Fentress (Ducks beat writer) is reporting that sources tell him Colt was repeatedly missing meetings and team activities, and Helfrich told him that if he missed another one he'd be kicked off the team.


In that article it said he's first round good. Is that true?


He is without question a first round athlete. Whether he's a 1st round tight end could be debated, and has been. Personally I thought he was worth a shot in the first round, now I wouldn't touch him until the late rounds.

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Hey J. Do you have a reader's digest version of what's going on with this guy? I remember you talking him up for his talent which is obviously still there. Back when you were talking him up did he have off field issues. Did this just start recently? The only thing I know about him is what you were saying before.


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Sounds like he was acting a bit Clowney.


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What a dumb ass.

I think it's time we can appreciate that's what he is.

And now he has plenty of time to tweet conspiracy theories about horrible tragedies.


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Mtjhoyas wrote:
Lyerla is most definitely First round good. Explosive athlete who is physical. Not many humans that size can move like he can. Too bad he's throwing it all away. I'd still gamble with a 4th rounder on him though. He could be right below Jimmy Graham as the most explosive TE in the NFL.


I agree he is worth a 4th round gamble. That seems to be the round that we will take a player that if he just doesn't work out they will cut. Although, I would recommend him to transfer to Alabama St so he could play next year and repair his reputation in the minds of NFL executives.


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I'm hearing drugs may be playing a role here. Really unfortunate.

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Sounds like he was acting a bit Clowney.



Problem for Colt is UO has plenty of talent behind him who can play TE effectively, not many guys can take Clowneys spot without the team seeing a drop off.

True fr Johnny Muhnt has played great this year, and Pharaoh Brown (6'6 240) is finally healthy.


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GMs make a pretty big deal out of players who quit their teams. Especially players who had a reputation for being mentally unstable before quitting.

I'm not saying he goes undrafted, but there will be teams who will take him completely off their draft board.

I don't think GMs will skim over the fact that Lyerla had just two catches this year either.

This situation kind of reminds me of Vontaze Burfict.


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This situation kind of reminds me of Vontaze Burfict.


I thought that as well. Two things that make him falling out unlikely

1. Unlike Burfict, Lyerla will probably kill it at the combine. I don't see Lyerla running a 5+ 40 like Vontaze

2. Burfict example is worth heeding. He has turned into a solid pro starter.

Day 3 guy with possible late 3rd round if a good team takes a flyer on him. He's going to be hard to handicap where he goes. Physically, he should really stand out from your late 3rd round prospect. I'd still expect him to come off the board by round 5.

No telling how/if he goes to seed before next February. He'll need a great combine performance. Even in the best of times, he was only mildly productive.


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http://www.detroitlionsdraft.com/2013/1 ... ed-talent/

Solid article on Lyerla. IDK, he sounds like a guy Pete could coach and keep in line.


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http://www.detroitlionsdraft.com/2013/10/colt-lyerla-a-troubled-talent/

Solid article on Lyerla. IDK, he sounds like a guy Pete could coach and keep in line.


I just came here to post the same article! One of the better articles I've read in a long time.

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When I asked the actual NFL scouts about how their teams will view Lyerla I got similar, indirect answers. One advised me that “my report will be that he’s never going to be worth the headaches. I can’t see us considering him after this quitting.” He pointed out that his team removed Mike Williams of Syracuse and Marquess Wilson of Washington State completely from their draft consideration when those players left their respective schools in recent years.

The other scout gave me a very interesting answer. He said he was sure his team would pass on Lyerla but he brought up two other franchises which might find his story appealing as a sort of feel-good reclamation story. When I asked if he thought Lyerla would be drafted I got this response:

“Drafted? Absolutely. He’s a second round talent at worst on the field. If he can piss clean (pass drug tests) and explain his issues, coaches will look over the bad issues.”

I asked him to speculate on which round Lyerla might wind up being drafted.

“Like I said, he’s got to piss clean. (We) won’t touch him if he’s left the team and is doing drugs. No way. If he pisses clean I think he can go in the fourth or fifth round. I would be surprised if we let him fall past that”, he told me. ”I’ll tell you this too, his agent is going to really have to earn his money. Up front damage control.”


The part in Bold really screams Seahawks and Pete Carroll to me.

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I've heard he had all kinds of issues with his old man coming in and out of his life, and his mom never giving him any boundaries ever. Sounds like Chip leaving set all this in motion, he needs a positive coach who understands how to get through to him. But you have to wonder how he will react to a coach he likes retiring or getting fired.


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Seahawks and bengals probably. Hate to see guys throw stuff away but maybe he'll figure it out at the pro level.


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Well, I don't think that he will be available for the draft..

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"Detectives working an unrelated drug investigation ... observed Lyerla in a parked vehicle snorting what appeared to be a white powdery substance. Lyerla was contacted by police and admitted to using and possessing cocaine."

The guy snorted Cocaine while in his car and a cop happened to see him do it. I never liked him as a prospect and I shouldn't feel sorry for him, but talk about shit luck.


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This is so ridiculous.. How do people get these golden tickets in life and choose to just throw this away. Just absolutely insane.


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Starting to make cliff Harris look like a genius.

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Well, if you're going to piss away an NFL career, you might as well do it on cocaine rather than marijuana.

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Willing to take a shot on him in round six or below. How the hell does a college kid have the money to buy cocaine, anyway?

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I'm not sure how the drug laws in Oregon are, but there is a chance that he might go through some sort of drug court type of thing. He will probably be on probation for a while at the very least. But like you said, how does a college kid afford cocaine? Imagine giving the kid a contract in the $200k range... Hopefully this is a wake up call for him, and he goes through the necessary treatment options to renew his image. But at this point, I really don't think that he will be on anyone's board.


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I'm pretty sure Colt signed with an agent after leaving the UO football team. Generally an agent will give players money.


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Well, I guess the erratic behavior and Mel Gibson type moments make a bit of sense now.

If he hits rehab, I'd be fine with Seattle taking him in UDFA. Not because he deserves the opportunity based on his actions, but he has the talent and perhaps this is his "rock bottom" moment that turns his life around. Worth a shot, if it's UDFA.


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This is so ridiculous.. How do people get these golden tickets in life and choose to just throw this away. Just absolutely insane.


Bad parenting perhaps. Sounds like his dad ran out on him at a young age. I think the teen years for many boys like Lyerla and Aaron Hernandez are the most important for a dad to teach their boys how to be a man. Hernandez's dad died and it became evident he rebelled against authority after that and now look at him.


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Willing to take a shot on him in round six or below. How the hell does a college kid have the money to buy cocaine, anyway?


I think you overestimate how much cocaine costs. Lot of parties in college had coke. If its easy to get in Pullman, its got to be easy in Eugene.

He's young enough to fix himself if put in the right situation. Who knows if that will happen though.


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I don't know, the worst our parties ever had were weed, shrooms, acid, and x. I still associate cocaine with stockbrokers and Hollywood actors, I guess.

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I did too until I got to college. The first year I was like "WTF? Are you serious? Cocaine??"


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This is so ridiculous.. How do people get these golden tickets in life and choose to just throw this away. Just absolutely insane.


Bad parenting perhaps. Sounds like his dad ran out on him at a young age. I think the teen years for many boys like Lyerla and Aaron Hernandez are the most important for a dad to teach their boys how to be a man. Hernandez's dad died and it became evident he rebelled against authority after that and now look at him.


From what I hear, mom is a huge problem in his life. He was getting better before she moved to Eugene. In HS she would let him stay out all night, and basically told him it's ok to do whatever he wants. She has never instilled a respect for anyone other than himself in his life. Kid has basically raised himself.


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I did too until I got to college. The first year I was like "WTF? Are you serious? Cocaine??"


I went to Arizona friggin' State. Man, probably I was just going to the wrong parties. I'm sure there were a few frat row parties where people were shooting up heroin, even.

Anyway, I'm still fine with looking at Lyerla late on day three or in UDFA, but man, dropping out of a high-profile school with a propensity for producing NFL players and getting caught doing coke is just...man, wow.

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What an idiot! Sitting out in an open parking lot snorting cocaine. He was asking to get busted. I spent my fair share of time doing hard drugs but I always was careful and over the years never got caught. It just amazes me how many college and professional sports players keep getting busted right and left, it must be something to do with the attitude they have because of their position. Arrogance, or ego and they figure they are too important to be busted?

I know that theory works with doctors, dentists and lawyers flying airplanes, they wreck them more than anyone else. When rescuing them I was always dumbfounded by the circumstances and would get stories like "it was getting dark, I couldn't see which way the wind was blowing, or how big the rocks were so I landed." And there sits a 180 Scout, busted up among rocks a foot or two in diameter. Financially, wrecking a small plane is no big deal to them and because of their position/education they have a big ego. So maybe it's the same thing with football players who get to ride to the stadium in a big bus with people cheering and being escorted by police with their lights on that gives them that feeling of invincibility when it comes to breaking the law.

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I don't know, the worst our parties ever had were weed, shrooms, acid, and x......

We must have attended the same parties. :mrgreen:

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I was using cocaine in high school.

Not hard to afford or get, just wish I had an awesome NFL future to shit on.

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I actually met his mom once at a bar in aloha... Not really surprised by this.


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