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Umm... Marqise Lee?.. USC's lackluster season has really caused him to fly under the radar but I think once the combine comes he'll be right back on-top of the WR board. He's an absolutely amazing athlete, with great hands.

Paul Richardson is good BUT he drops a lot of balls.. No thanks.

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Watkins and Evans for me but those are probably the 1 and 2 WR off the board. Mathews could be in the Seattle range, I haven't watched too many WR other than these 3 so far.

Looking around perhaps L'Damian Washington? Kind of light for a tall guy.

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Umm... Marqise Lee?.. USC's lackluster season has really caused him to fly under the radar but I think once the combine comes he'll be right back on-top of the WR board. He's an absolutely amazing athlete, with great hands.

Paul Richardson is good BUT he drops a lot of balls.. No thanks.


This is true, but so did Kearse. He's also a lot better than last years 4th round pick Chris Harper, and I'm guessing that where he'll go.

As for Lee and Watkins, I doubt either are on the board when we pick. People will know Lee played with hot mess QBs all year, and was a victim of the Kiffin mess.


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What's Brandon Coleman doing this year? I love his size and speed reminds me of Brandon Marshell.


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Colman has 15 catches, 220 yards, 2 TDs

I don't know what system they're running over there at Rutgers but in 5 games that don't sound too tough.

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Something isn't right with Coleman. He's running on his heels and has almost no explosion off the line. He looks like he's on bum ankles really. He doesn't look like he did last year.

Statistically, he's not going to light a fire. Gary Nova is complete trash as a QB. There are wildcat qbs with better throwing skills. Coleman will underwhelm the casual fan who doesn't watch the games.


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Coleman had his knee reconstructed during the summer and it shows. Different player this year.


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Ah, hadn't caught that. Would explain a great deal. He looks like every stride hurts.

I realized I never offered an answer to the OPs question. I noted them on SDB so I'll copy them here too. In particular, these are day 2 alternatives to the first round hype prospects that not all of us may know:

Allen Robinson 6’3″
Dante Moncrief 6’2″
DeVonte Parker 6’2″
Devin Street 6’3″
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I think Moncrief is moving up, we'll see at the end of the season but I think he'll rise into that late 1st early 2nd round.

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Ah, hadn't caught that. Would explain a great deal. He looks like every stride hurts.

I realized I never offered an answer to the OPs question. I noted them on SDB so I'll copy them here too. In particular, these are day 2 alternatives to the first round hype prospects that not all of us may know:

Allen Robinson 6’3″
Dante Moncrief 6’2″
DeVonte Parker 6’2″
Devin Street 6’3″
Alex Amidon 5'11"


I like Robinson and Moncrief, although Moncrief has dropped some passes the few games I watched of him. Parker is just a possession WR and I wouldn't take him in the first two rounds. I'm undecided on Street, and I don't want a 5'11'' in the first couple rounds unless its LSU (WR) Odell Beckham.


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...and I don't want a 5'11'' in the first couple rounds unless its LSU (WR) Odell Beckham.


I'd invite you to look up some Amidon tape. He's a day 3 prospect who I offered as an alternative to spending a first round pick on Beckham. There are elements to his game that are very good. Last year, he had more drops than I'd like, but he seems to have improved this year considerably. His burst out of his stance, and his ability to stop/redirect on a dime is impressive. As is his ability to work through press coverage. He is a 6-8 catch per game guy and his quickness really just jumps out at you when you watch his tape.

I'd eye him if Seattle opts to not tender Baldwin. That price last year for a 2nd round qualifying offer was a shade over 2m/yr. That's due to the fact that as a UDFA, we don't have the 1m/yr option the secure first refusal rights for original draft selection. He will command starter slot money on the open market. Which for other teams will be palatable and even a good value. You can bet that Jacksonville will take him and probably for over 2m/yr.

Seattle already has a starter slot receiver (Harvin). Baldwin will be a 4th string guy here. Your salary structure begins to unfold when you start paying deep bench players that kind of money. What's more, is that we aren't a heavy passing team. It doesn't make sense to commit 20%+ of your cap to WRs, when you pass less than you run.

Amidon would be a 500k/yr successor with 4 years of club control. Baldwin is a guy we all love. But despite that, resigning him is going to be really tough. Even tendering him will be tough. Your 2nd string slot receiver needs to be a cheap contract. We all knew this day would come where we have to let good/productive players go and plow under their positions with cheaper rookies with club control. Amidon is a candidate to do just that.


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I'd invite you to look up some Amidon tape. He's a day 3 prospect who I offered as an alternative to spending a first round pick on Beckham. There are elements to his game that are very good. Last year, he had more drops than I'd like, but he seems to have improved this year considerably. His burst out of his stance, and his ability to stop/redirect on a dime is impressive. As is his ability to work through press coverage. He is a 6-8 catch per game guy and his quickness really just jumps out at you when you watch his tape.


I just took a look at his game vs. Wake Forrest last year. I personally have a bit of a hard time judging the speed or quickness of WR's especially on youtube clips. That said, his quickness off the line does look good I just can't tell if its elite or just good. I also couldn't really tell if he has deep speed to take the cover off a defense, but with slot WR's I'm not too concerned with deep speed. He looked good at finding soft spots in the defense, quick feet to get in and out of breaks. He had a few drops in the game and I didn't see the body control to adjust to errant balls. I think have I a BC game on my DVR from last week or the week before, so I'll go back and try to get a better look at him.

I have really only been scouting bigger WR's even scouting underclassmen who are unlikely to declare for the draft. I wanted to compare Amidon to a player similer in size and also a mid-round prospect so I took a look at Oregon St WR Brandin Cooks. In the game vs Colorado Cooks played outside a lot and not too much in the slot. Cooks showed quickness, good speed, quick feet and an ability to sink his hips to get in and out of his breaks. He showed nice body control to get errant balls, but nothing special. He took a couple of good hits so he may have the toughness you would want in a slot WR. Going off one game tape of each player I would rate Cooks maybe two rounds ahead of Amidon, but one tape on each player really isn't fair.

Since we are taking smaller WR's, what are your thoughts on Cooks? And what is your opinion of Kent St RB/WR/KR Dri Archer? Archer is the same height, weight, and on the field speed as Rams WR Tavon Austin minus the experience of actually playing WR. Archer is coming off an injury, but he is healthy now hence his 90+ yard kick return for a TD last week. Archer could be the KR/PR and possibly be the 4th WR.

Here is Cooks vs. Colorado.


Here is Archer's highligns from 2012, the level of competition is the greatest until you see him running away from SEC Kentuky players.


If given the option of,
A) selecting Cooks in the 3rd round (this scenario we accuire a 3rd round pick)
B) selecting Amidon in the 4th round
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C) selecting Archer in the 4th round

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Archer to me looks like just a guy. Someone that maybe makes the tail end of a roster but probably just sits on a PS somewhere.

I love Cooks. First and foremost, he has explosive legs. He has an ability to make everyone around him look like they are slow. The second thing that jumps out, is he has terrific hands. I'd go so far as to say he has the best hands in CFB. He makes great catches. He makes easy catches. He catches them clean in the hands. He has great awareness of the sidelines and works them expertly. He high points balls, undercuts defenders to get underthrown balls. His combination of sublime hands, ball tracking ability and ability to alter routes to gain positional advantage while the ball is in the air is incredibly advanced. He's leading college football in almost all stats for a legitimate reason. Of any prospect in the draft, I would say that Cooks is an actual upgrade from Baldwin in terms of ball skills at this point already. And I love Baldwin's catching skills. Cooks catches the ball cleaner and has a similar ability to Baldwin to working in limited or contested space.

He's not exactly long limbed. But he has very good body control and acceleration that gives him a very good effective catch radius.

He doesn't explode out of his stance. He false steps almost every release. For a slot guy, he has to clean that up right now. Watch his tape versus Amidon to appreciate the difference. Amidon looks like he's almost full speed within a yard of the LOS. Cooks, like his team mate from last year Wheaton, is a very good hand fighter and gets free of press coverage very very well.

Honestly, he has outside WR skills in a slot receiver body. He needs to improve on his quickness and his initial burst off the line. If he can do that, I'd put him as the best slot receiver in the draft. I am not prone to citing pedigree, as I think all prospects should be looked at independent of outside factors, but OSU does an outstanding job of teaching WR techniques and skills. Either that or they just have a great eye for talent at the HS level which I kind of doubt. Cooks demonstrates excellent ball skills, release technique and positional awareness.

Cooks should go before Amidon. I can't make that kind of determination of who I'd take, because it would mean not taking someone else in Cooks' spot. Maybe we need an OL candidate? Is a 4th/5th round OT going to be a better tackle than Amidon is a WR? I like Cooks better but I don't know if I like how the depth stacks up later in the draft. Remember, whether it's Cooks or someone else, they are still the backup slot receiver at best. I'd rather have a lesser 2nd slot guy and a starting OT than a better 2nd slot guy and not get an upgrade elsewhere. I suspect that Cable is going to get that day 2 OL prospect he wanted last year. Maybe more than one. Needs could get in the way of getting the better prospect.


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Let me throw this name out there. Sammy Watkins Clemson 6'1" 205 jr. WHY? I expect him to come early in the 2014 draft. He reminds me alot of GoldenTate but with more speed. Just go watch his highlight reels and you'll see. Awesome returner too. cheers :179422:

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Watkins should be gone well before we pick.


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Baldwin is only going to ask for 4 or 5 million I see no reason why we couldn't keep him. I don't see a need at WR but maybe we use one pick on one. If it turns out we can't keep miller I'd draft a TE, draft 2 offensive lineman, a safety, a DT, and a pass rushing project


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Baldwin is only going to ask for 4 or 5 million I see no reason why we couldn't keep him. I don't see a need at WR but maybe we use one pick on one. If it turns out we can't keep miller I'd draft a TE, draft 2 offensive lineman, a safety, a DT, and a pass rushing project


We have soo many players that we need to re-sign and we are not going to have the money to sign all the players we like.

2014 Seahawks key unrestricted free agents or restrincted free agents:
(DE/DT) Michael Bennett UFA: Bennett is a must re-sign IMO.
(CB) Brandon Browner UFA: Browner seems to be a polarizing player amongst Seahawks fans, IMO he is a must re-sign.
(WR) Golden Tate UFA: Tate IMO is a must re-sign. I never thought I would say that, I didn't think his game would translate to the NFL.

2015 Seahawks key unrestricted or restricted free agents:
(DE) Cliff Avril UFA: IMO cut him after this year. Nice player, but he is no Chris Clemmons.
(CB) Richard Sherman UFA: Must re-sign. IMO he is the best defensive player not named JJ Watt.
(FS) Earl Thomas UFA: Must re-sign. His range and ball skill are elite and by careers end will be up there with the all-time great FS Ronnie Lott and Ed Reed.
(LB) K.J. Wright UFA: I would like to re-sign. If I'm re-signing Sherman, Thomas, Tate, Bennett, and Browner then I don't know if Wright or Baldwin would fit in the our cap.


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Let me throw this name out there. Sammy Watkins Clemson 6'1" 205 jr. WHY? I expect him to come early in the 2014 draft. He reminds me alot of GoldenTate but with more speed. Just go watch his highlight reels and you'll see. Awesome returner too. cheers :179422:


Who? He must have gone under the radar! :sarcasm_on:

Come on man, we have no shot, he's graded as the #1 WR on a bunch of sites.


Looking at replacements for Rice, I like Allen Robinson, though if he really is 6,3" he looks a bit bulkier than the 205-210 advertised. He's probably 6,2", not that it matters.


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If Jordan Matthews falls to us, I don't know how we could pass on him. Watching UGA/Vandy right now and he is just a playmaker. I'd would be very happy if that's our 1st rd pick.


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Besides Washington, his teammate Marcus Lucas seems like a tall big body WR that we lack (6-5 220). Both I haven't heard much talk about nationally yet so maybe late round flier types that could be red zone threats, they are both seniors so they will be available next draft.

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Besides Washington, his teammate Marcus Lucas seems like a tall big body WR that we lack (6-5 220). Both I haven't heard much talk about nationally yet so maybe late round flier types that could be red zone threats, they are both seniors so they will be available next draft.


Watching the Mizzou Florida game, really like Washington! Plus, who's Michael Sam???? Seen him down as a late round pick in a bunch of mocks but the guy looks like an NFL player. 8 sacks on the year and 2 today?


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(1) Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M, 6-5, 225.
Current season he has 32 receptions for 737 yds, 5-td's. = 23.03-yds. per catch
Career 114 for 1842 and 10-td.s. = 16.15-yds per catch.

(2) Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State, 6-2, 212.
Current season he has 52 receptions for 496 yds, 7-td's = 9.53-yds per catch.
Career: 154 for 1808-yds and **21-td's** = 11.74-yds per catch.

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Umm... Marqise Lee?.. USC's lackluster season has really caused him to fly under the radar but I think once the combine comes he'll be right back on-top of the WR board. He's an absolutely amazing athlete, with great hands.

Paul Richardson is good BUT he drops a lot of balls.. No thanks.


This is true, but so did Kearse. He's also a lot better than last years 4th round pick Chris Harper, and I'm guessing that where he'll go.

As for Lee and Watkins, I doubt either are on the board when we pick. People will know Lee played with hot mess QBs all year, and was a victim of the Kiffin mess.

Marqise has a ton of talent. He still needs to improve his route running and he's had drop issues this year. He's struggled at times now that he doesn't have Woods on the other side.

Having said that, he's also not been anywhere near 100% healthy yet, and the offense in general has struggled prior to last week.

'Quise may get some play time today, though he's still coming off injury. I'd actually prefer he wait if possible and get healed up.

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Besides Washington, his teammate Marcus Lucas seems like a tall big body WR that we lack (6-5 220). Both I haven't heard much talk about nationally yet so maybe late round flier types that could be red zone threats, they are both seniors so they will be available next draft.


Watching the Mizzou Florida game, really like Washington! Plus, who's Michael Sam???? Seen him down as a late round pick in a bunch of mocks but the guy looks like an NFL player. 8 sacks on the year and 2 today?


Washington is the better pro prospect with his speed. Both have inconsistent hands but obviously good size. Late round picks for sure.

Michael Sam has a crazy motor and just makes plays. Just a matter of time before he shoots up draft boards. The future first round pick plays on the other side of the line, Kony Ealy.


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I was impressed by Green-Beckam today watching the Mizzou-Florida game.

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Love Evans from A&M. I think we may look for a TE/WR hybrid and think he would fit the bill.

My guess is Sidney and Zach restructure, Baldwin takes just under 3 million a year for 5 years and Tate signs for 5 million a year. Golden loves this team, and even though he could get more elsewhere, he will give a home town discount. Baldwin will want the security of a long term contract and both will probably have incentives in their contracts.

I still can't believe the idiocy of Belicheck refusing to pay Welker 7 but he ponies up 6 for Amendola. That move will be the difference in the Patriots watching the Super Bowl and the Broncos playing in it.

My guess is Pete would love to keep his current stable of wide receivers and add a strong, blocking TE to help the offensive line. Unlike others, i think we are in good shape on the Oline with the additions of Bailey and Bowie and i could see both starting next year. Bowie at RT and Bailey at LG.

Sorry, got off track a bit was explaining my reasoning for a TE/WR hybrid.

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Mike Evans, that guy from Clemson, Marquise Lee, Brandon Coleman, and those are just the guys that were on the pre-season watch list. Loaded year at WR. I'd take a flier on Abbrederis from Wisconsin in the 4th if he's there, and if Smith from UW (#8) sneaks into the late rounds, he could be a huge bargain for some team. I'd much rather have Smith than Kasen Williams, though with Williams you get the feeling that he has a ton of untapped potential, something PC/JS value highly.


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Brandin Cooks from OSU. Best WR in the country. I don't know if he'll ever be a number 1 WR in the NFL, but he'll kill people from the slot.

Another 13 catches for 232 yards tonight.

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How about Cody Hoffman (BYU, 6,3" 215)? I know we haven't seen him much this year but if he could be had on the third day as some sites suggest then I'd love us to take a look. Doesn't seem to have electric speed, but consistently gets open, looks to have reliable hands and some after the catch ability.



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Brandin Cooks from OSU. Best WR in the country. I don't know if he'll ever be a number 1 WR in the NFL, but he'll kill people from the slot.

Another 13 catches for 232 yards tonight.


I concur. He's a really special looking player. Not tall at all, but a really uniquely gifted WR. He is well put together too, reminds one of Steve Smith (the good one). He has marvelous ball skills. He will be a day 1 starter for some team.

The 25-60 pick range should have a lot of really good WR prospects. Guys I would rate higher than Tate when he came out.


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Figured this thread should get a bump with Rice out. Kearly was the first i saw mention Abbrederis (Wisconsin)...I want to second that. He is the Badgers only decent receiver this year and so he is getting all the attention from the secondary but still always manages to get open. His ability to get open would be very valuable for a scrambling RW. Plus, they played together at Wisconsin and so already have some great chemistry. 933 Receiving yds (5th most in Wisc history) and 8 TDs with RW throwing the ball to him. And that was when Abbrederis was a Sophomore! He also returns punts. He had 346 all-purpose yards in the Rose Bowl v Oregon the year with RW at Wisconsin.

Here are some highlights from his Sophomore and jr years (most with RW at the helm): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGWXphHFTaY


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(1) Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M, 6-5, 225.
Current season he has 32 receptions for 737 yds, 5-td's. = 23.03-yds. per catch
Career 114 for 1842 and 10-td.s. = 16.15-yds per catch.

(2) Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State, 6-2, 212.
Current season he has 52 receptions for 496 yds, 7-td's = 9.53-yds per catch.
Career: 154 for 1808-yds and **21-td's** = 11.74-yds per catch.

http://espn.go.com/college-football/sta ... 3/group/80


These are the two receivers I have my eyes on.

Big, fast, good hands. Those are a couple Pete receivers if I've ever seen one!


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Evans isn't going to make it to us.

Does anyone really think he makes it past SF with their desperate WR situation? They will pick before us so it's time we stop discussing him.


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I'm keeping an eye on a couple of late round/UDFA WR's as developmental big bodies with exceptional speed.

WR-L'Damian Washington, 6-4, 205, 4.37/40, Missouri,
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""Jeff Janis the 6’3 wide receiver from Saginaw Valley State. Janis has killed his competition this year and scouts are falling in love with his abilities. He has good size and ability to catch the ball. Throw in the fact that he ran a 4.3 forty at his junior pro day, and you might have the next special small school wide receiver to hit the NFL. Jeff Janis has been killing his competition, it is not even fair for corners or safeties. He has 1635 yards, 17 touchdowns and is averaging 148 yards a game. This kid is special folks, one scout said he is a faster Jordy Nelson. You do the math, WHITE LIGHTNING is something serious."" ----->Per: Yardbarker/NFLdraftDiamonds.
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CamanoIslandJQ wrote:
I'm keeping an eye on a couple of late round/UDFA WR's as developmental big bodies with exceptional speed.

WR-Jeff Janis, 6-3, 218, 4.36/40, Saginaw Valley St.
WR-L'Damian Washington, 6-4, 205, 4.37/40, Missouri


Good call on Janis. He is one of a handful or small school prospects that I find intriguing. Janis looks fast on his highlights, but its difficult to get a true fell for his speed considering his level of competition. Nice route runner, good at tracking the ball to come down with the catch, and a he gets some yards after the catch. Hopefully he will get an invite to one of the all-star games so we can see how he looks against better competition.

Here is Janis's 2012 highlight tape.


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Lee is ballin tonight. 3 ridiculous plays already in the 1st. If he fell near us I'd be okay trading up a few spots for him.


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How about Cody Hoffman (BYU, 6,3" 215)? I know we haven't seen him much this year but if he could be had on the third day as some sites suggest then I'd love us to take a look. Doesn't seem to have electric speed, but consistently gets open, looks to have reliable hands and some after the catch ability.



I also put it up to try and get the opinion of SharkHawk. What happened to him? Miss his season updates on all things Utah and BYU.

I'm no expert but if this is a day three guy then I really hope the Seahawks pick him up. He looks to have very good balance and body control. A guy I could see being able to go up and get 50 50 balls especially at 6-3.


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Kevin Smith #8 UW 5'11" 214#. He's coming off a lot of injuries but has been an outstanding WR this year. Great blocking and clutch plays with lots of raw athleticism that has nowhere near peaked.

If taken in round 5 or later could be an absolute steal.

http://www.gohuskies.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=208062103&DB_OEM_ID=30200


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Finally saw the Matthews dude outta Vandy, he screams Seahawks with how physical he plays.

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I want Florida St (WR) Kelvin Benjamin in a Seahawks uniform. I keep pounding the table for this kid and today he went off with 9 catches for 212 yards and 3 TD's. At 6-5 235 lbs. he is a super sized WR that we don't currently have on our roster. KB is a good jump ball WR, he has good body control to catch off errant passes, and he is tough to bring down. Wilson could throw jump balls to him all day long.

Here are his highlights from today.


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I want Florida St (WR) Kelvin Benjamin in a Seahawks uniform. I keep pounding the table for this kid and today he went off with 9 catches for 212 yards and 3 TD's. At 6-5 235 lbs. he is a super sized WR that we don't currently have on our roster. KB is a good jump ball WR, he has good body control to catch off errant passes, and he is tough to bring down. Wilson could throw jump balls to him all day long.

Here are his highlights from today.


I like him too. But I have a few mates who are Noles fans and they unanimously agree that he's not even the best WR on his team (at this point).

He is expected to return to Tallahassee this year. The Seminoles are packed with really talented juniors and a fair few of them are expected to return for a national title run. Benjamin is expected to return.

I really love the flashes of brilliance I've seen from him. But I've seen his bad plays too. Realistically, I'm not as prone to knock prospects for inconsistency as I am willing to give credit for flashes of special quality.


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cover-2 wrote:
I want Florida St (WR) Kelvin Benjamin in a Seahawks uniform. I keep pounding the table for this kid and today he went off with 9 catches for 212 yards and 3 TD's. At 6-5 235 lbs. he is a super sized WR that we don't currently have on our roster. KB is a good jump ball WR, he has good body control to catch off errant passes, and he is tough to bring down. Wilson could throw jump balls to him all day long.

Here are his highlights from today.


I like him too. But I have a few mates who are Noles fans and they unanimously agree that he's not even the best WR on his team (at this point).

He is expected to return to Tallahassee this year. The Seminoles are packed with really talented juniors and a fair few of them are expected to return for a national title run. Benjamin is expected to return.

I really love the flashes of brilliance I've seen from him. But I've seen his bad plays too. Realistically, I'm not as prone to knock prospects for inconsistency as I am willing to give credit for flashes of special quality.


Yeah the argument can be made that he is not the best WR on his team, but the two other WR's are 180 lbs. (Rashad Greene) and 170 lbs. (Kenny Shaw). Shaw is just a deep threat that is raw route runner and Greene is probably best suited as a slot WR in the NFL. I am more coming from the mindset of what the Seahawks need or are currently lacking. KB is 6-5 235 lbs and shown to be a good jump ball WR, he will run through defenders and we don't currently have a player like that on our team.

Florida St is currently making a run for the national title and if they win it all this year maybe it makes him less likely to return for his junior year. I think redshirt sophomores should be considered and talked about if they are unique players that are having good years and KJB fits into that category. He would benefit for returning for one more year of college, but IMO he should still be considered in the draft discussion until he is quoted as saying he plans to returning to school next year. Texas A&M (OT) Cedric Ogbueh is considered a 1st round talent, but he has been quoted as saying he is going to return to school next year, which has caused me to take him off my 2014 draft radar.

Right now I look at KB like I did Rutgers (WR) Brandon Coleman last year. Unique player, high upside, and being a redshirt sophomore they can probably be given more leeway for being a bit raw which may push their draft stock higher than senior WR's. Coleman didn't progress like I had hoped he would and I am not nearly as high on him as I was last year. KB is a great target in the redzone and Russell Wilson is not afraid to throw it up to give his WR's an opportunity to make a play. If KB comes out next year maybe he is a top-15 prospect, but if he comes out this year he is probably a low 1st - 2nd round prospect which means we could get him at a discounted price in this draft if he declares.

I'm not trying to preach like what I am saying is gospel, I'm just giving you my argument for a unique player that I really like.

Here is some more of KB highlights from his year.


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