Oregon vs. Washington

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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:32 pm
  • SeaTown81 wrote:
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    SeaTown81 wrote:I know Ducks fans want to give Mariota all the credit in the world. But I still have a hard time getting overly excited about him, only for the reason I never get excited about any SEC qb. It's far too easy to look all-worldly when you're playing in a gimmicky juggernaut college offense, surrounded by all-american talent. The Fox broadcasting crew just compared Mariota's stats to Tim Tebow and Colin Kaepernick. Two players I'm less than sold on in terms of their pro talent. Sorry Duck fans. I don't dislike Mariota. I think he's quite good. I just need to see a lot more from any college qb playing in an all-world offense before I can ever give them too much credit. Maybe he'll be a great pro, and could've been awesome in any college offense. But as of now, he's simply one-upping Dennis Dixon.


    This sounds more like sour grapes than a legit critique right now. I'm not sold on Mariota in the NFL, but c'mon. Show some class. He put some footballs in tight windows today.


    How the hell is that classless? I don't give a crap about today. Dude is light's out in terms of playing qb for Oregon. What I'm talking about is how good he actually is. When your offense is this good and your surrounding talent that stacked, the degree of difficulty to play qb goes down substantially. Do you want me to list you the cavalcade of SEC qb's who looked all world when surrounded by insane talent, who went on to nothing careers in the pros? Cuz it's pretty much the rule as to the exception. And this isn't a knock on Mariota. As I went out of my way to point out, for all I know he could kill it in an offense without close to as much help. I'm just saying it's hard to get too excited when Dennis Dixon looked all world in the same offense with less talent surrounding him. You think I'm spouting sour grapes, have at your boy JSeahawks. He didn't seem to have a problem with what I'm saying.


    Well, I do think youre wrong. But I understand your point.
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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:33 pm
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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:34 pm
  • I'm not sure what was most disappointing today. The ineptness of the pass defense, the offensive line's pass blocking, or the receivers.
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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:34 pm
  • SeaTown81 wrote:
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    SeaTown81 wrote:I know Ducks fans want to give Mariota all the credit in the world. But I still have a hard time getting overly excited about him, only for the reason I never get excited about any SEC qb. It's far too easy to look all-worldly when you're playing in a gimmicky juggernaut college offense, surrounded by all-american talent. The Fox broadcasting crew just compared Mariota's stats to Tim Tebow and Colin Kaepernick. Two players I'm less than sold on in terms of their pro talent. Sorry Duck fans. I don't dislike Mariota. I think he's quite good. I just need to see a lot more from any college qb playing in an all-world offense before I can ever give them too much credit. Maybe he'll be a great pro, and could've been awesome in any college offense. But as of now, he's simply one-upping Dennis Dixon.


    This sounds more like sour grapes than a legit critique right now. I'm not sold on Mariota in the NFL, but c'mon. Show some class. He put some footballs in tight windows today.


    How the hell is that classless? I don't give a crap about today. Dude is light's out in terms of playing qb for Oregon. What I'm talking about is how good he actually is. When your offense is this good and your surrounding talent that stacked, the degree of difficulty to play qb goes down substantially. Do you want me to list you the cavalcade of SEC qb's who looked all world when surrounded by insane talent, who went on to nothing careers in the pros? Cuz it's pretty much the rule as to the exception. And this isn't a knock on Mariota. As I went out of my way to point out, for all I know he could kill it in an offense without close to as much help. I'm just saying it's hard to get too excited when Dennis Dixon looked all world in the same offense with less talent surrounding him. You think I'm spouting sour grapes, have at your boy JSeahawks. He didn't seem to have a problem with what I'm saying.



    I believe the gimmicky offense comment sent off my BS detector. Some passive aggressive kicks in there. You took your pot shots because you're pissed at your team and ours.

    Which is stupid because your QB runs the same 'gimmick'. So what does that say about him?
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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:40 pm
  • cesame wrote:The Decade of Dominance


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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:44 pm
  • Sark's 5th year and he still gets hammered by Oregon....at home in a brand new stadium at that. Doesn't matter how long you hang with them...losing by 20+ is still losing by 20+ points. If Sark doesn't run the table from here, he deserves to be canned. His offense has a lot of talent and a 5th year senior QB...but they are the sorry part of this team...tons of penalties...tons of drive-killing plays. No pass protection.

    What really ticked me off was them essentially giving up. There's still almost 7 minutes to play and Washington punts on 4th and 13. Logic must not be Sark's strong point:

    You punt - Lose the game

    You go for it:
    A) You get it - still have a small chance
    B) You don't get it - you lose the game

    It's really not that complicated...but no lets just give up.
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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sat Oct 12, 2013 3:47 pm
  • fenderbender123 wrote:Sark's 5th year and he still gets hammered by Oregon....at home in a brand new stadium at that. Doesn't matter how long you hang with them...losing by 20+ is still losing by 20+ points. If Sark doesn't run the table from here, he deserves to be canned. His offense has a lot of talent and a 5th year senior QB...but they are the sorry part of this team...tons of penalties...tons of drive-killing plays. No pass protection.


    It makes me think he takes the USC job so he can get the talent to beat Oregon. Oregon just doesn't lose to teams they have more talent than.

    If Sark wants to beat Oregon he'll have to go to USC.
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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sat Oct 12, 2013 6:18 pm
  • I don't believe Sark is HC material. If he takes the SC job, it will be even more evident. Historically, his kids have played with a lack of discipline. Sark, being asked to corral the egos of typical SC recruits? I don't see it.

    Further, USC needs to get back to their legacy: Power football and stellar defense. Their supporters / alumni will not be receptive to gimmicky offenses and we know for damn sure Sark knows nothing about defense.

    Best case scenario for me would be Wilcox at HC (even without HC experience, I don't see us keeping him in any other role) and Sark reuniting with his BF Nick Holt at USC. ...oh yeah, and Marcus Mariota becoming a Jag. These things would make me happy.
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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sat Oct 12, 2013 9:48 pm
  • I don't like Decade of Dominance anymore. I heard a better one.

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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:19 pm
  • Oregon is going to be uber good until they have a lull at QB, or they finally get punished for cheating. God I hate those guys. I can't hate on Mariota, I think he is the real deal. His delivery and accuracy are brilliant. Tebow has a horsepoop delivery, so does Kaepernick. I think Mariota is the real deal.

    We got zero pass rush whatsoever. One of the worst I have ever seen. There was like one hurry all night, the rest of the time Mariota stood there for 7 seconds waiting for someone to get wide open. Our secondary played stellar IMO and when it would seem we had a 3rd down stop, Mariota would outclass our athletes. The gap has lessened, but we're still outclassed.

    I think we went about this the wrong way. We're not going to beat Oregon at they're game. I'd rather we went the big and physical route.

    Does Sark legitimately not know how to get 88 or 2 the rock? Why are Smith and Mickens our most used targets every week?

    There are some things I really love about Sark, and some thins I absolutely can't stand. I wish we had the 45 year old version of him.

    Who woulda thought? 10 in a row, in my lifetime, to the team that was formerly green and yellow.

    There is nothing wrong with purple and gold DAMMIT SARK!!!

    This is a tough one. Are we ever going to beat Oregon again?
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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sun Oct 13, 2013 12:33 am
  • Sark is starting to remind me of Lambright. He's signed here until 2015 unless we fire him. If he leaves on his own beforehand, he has to pay us 1 million.

    Buyout terms were also altered a bit in Sarkisian's favor. He will get 70 percent of all remaining guaranteed money if he is fired (up from 60 percent in the original deal). If Sarkisian leaves UW before the contract expires, he would owe $2.5 million if he left in year one or two, $1.5 million if he left in year three and $1 million if he left in year four or five.
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    Not sure who'd we get to replace Sark, but I'm not buying too much into Wilcox now either. Sure, he's better than Holt. But that's not saying much. :crutches: :shudder:
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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:22 am
  • The only disappointing thing for me yesterday was that Dawgs0 was not here to share it with us.
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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Sun Oct 13, 2013 9:45 am
  • By the way, Sark wants to be like the Ducks so badly that he's finally resorting to Duck Face.

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Re: Oregon vs. Washington
Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:25 am
  • Great game Saturday.. Not looking to beat my chest, WA is better then they have been in recent memory and I'm all for the conference improving.

    A lot of hate between the 2 schools but I noticed a lot of good sportsmanship (players helping each-other up, patting each-other on the helmets and backs) out on the field during the game and it was nice to see.

    As an Oregon fan I can't wait to see where Mariota can take us with the way he's playing. Definitely the most confident I've ever seen him play.
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