kearly wrote:I call bullshit on the Irvin pick being a reach. In fact, I guarantee you that if the 2012 draft was done all over he'd probably be drafted sooner than 15th. I'd take Irvin in a heartbeat over guys like Dion Jordan, Ziggy Ansah, or Barkevious Mingo. If Irvin is a poor man's Von Miller then Mingo is a poor man's Irvin, and it sounds like Mingo could end up a top 10 pick this year.
I'm going to have to confess. I really REALLY was pissed we took Irvin. I was an unabashed Fletcher Cox fan, and as much as I didn't perceive Irvin being a first round guy, I was doubly stung by watching Cox fall to us, almost perfect like, only to have us trade down 3 spots and Philly end up taking they guy I coveted.
I'm sure Kip would understand, if we were to have traded 5 spots in round three so we could take Korey Toomer, only to see Wilson taken at 76. That's pretty much how I felt.
So 5-6 drunken/curse filled hours later -- I spooled up the Irvin video and after a good 90 minutes felt much better about it.
I've called Mingo 'Irvin-lite' before. And truth be told, after having looked at these DEs this year and then relooking at Irvin tape just last friday, Irvin really stands out remarkably from this class of DEs. So much so, that I'm left with the thought that there could be a very real emergence of productivity from Irvin this season. He never looked as quick last year as he did on tape. He just doesn't appear to be in his groove yet at this level. It's been said before, that DEs can take time to develop. Irvin has a ceiling he's not even come close to approaching. If things do click for him he could be electric.