Wenhawk wrote:To add onto your question, I think it must be a player at #56 that should be projected to contribute in a major role say at least 40% of the snaps should be a realistic option.
On offense pick #56 won't beat out QB, RB, LT, RT, C, #1 TE, #1 WR, Slot WR, FB
That leaves RG, LG, #2 WR, and #2 TE as positions where the most playing time is up for grabs
On Defense pick #56 won't beat out FS, SS, #1 CB, #2 CB, SLB, MLB, RDE, LDE, #1DT (Mebane), #2 DT (Bennett)
That leaves #3 DT, WLB, Nickle CB as the positions where the most playing time is up for grabs
So heres my order by priority of the positions where I think playing time is actually up for grabs
WLB, #3 DT, Nickle CB, #2 TE, #2 WR, RG, and LG.
So a big surprise that mabye makes the most sense but that would throw people off would be a WR at #56, With the aqusition of Harvin most wouldn't expect us to add another WR so early. I can see the logic becase Tate is a FA next year and PC like big WR's. This would be almost be like a redshirt year while the big WR would fight Tate for the #2 and likely get most time in the redzone or backing up Rice. If Rice goes down we will sorley lack a large WR target so some insurance would be nice, plus as expectations for that WR would be low. That's a plus because it seems to take most WR's time to develope.
Thoughts?
bestfightstory wrote:Wenhawk wrote:To add onto your question, I think it must be a player at #56 that should be projected to contribute in a major role say at least 40% of the snaps should be a realistic option.
On offense pick #56 won't beat out QB, RB, LT, RT, C, #1 TE, #1 WR, Slot WR, FB
That leaves RG, LG, #2 WR, and #2 TE as positions where the most playing time is up for grabs
On Defense pick #56 won't beat out FS, SS, #1 CB, #2 CB, SLB, MLB, RDE, LDE, #1DT (Mebane), #2 DT (Bennett)
That leaves #3 DT, WLB, Nickle CB as the positions where the most playing time is up for grabs
So heres my order by priority of the positions where I think playing time is actually up for grabs
WLB, #3 DT, Nickle CB, #2 TE, #2 WR, RG, and LG.
So a big surprise that mabye makes the most sense but that would throw people off would be a WR at #56, With the aqusition of Harvin most wouldn't expect us to add another WR so early. I can see the logic becase Tate is a FA next year and PC like big WR's. This would be almost be like a redshirt year while the big WR would fight Tate for the #2 and likely get most time in the redzone or backing up Rice. If Rice goes down we will sorley lack a large WR target so some insurance would be nice, plus as expectations for that WR would be low. That's a plus because it seems to take most WR's time to develope.
Thoughts?
I love the method but could envision a situation where an RT is selected who outshines Breno (Who I really like). OR a situation where a DT picked here comes on strong enough to see Bennett pushed to the outside exclusively or primarily. Our pile at guard is already sizeable and experienced, but none of Moffit, McQuistan, nor Sweezy astonishes. Certainly we are serviceable at our guard spots with the three and Carp... The more I talk through this, the more I like your conclusions... Although, I would likely put nickle CB behind TE.
Nice post.
bbsplitter wrote:I was under the impression bennett was a starting DE but only a situational guy on the inside as a DT?
bestfightstory wrote:
I love the method but could envision a situation where an RT is selected who outshines Breno (Who I really like). OR a situation where a DT picked here comes on strong enough to see Bennett pushed to the outside exclusively or primarily. Our pile at guard is already sizeable and experienced, but none of Moffit, McQuistan, nor Sweezy astonishes. Certainly we are serviceable at our guard spots with the three and Carp... The more I talk through this, the more I like your conclusions... Although, I would likely put nickle CB behind TE.
Nice post.
bbsplitter wrote:"Pass Rushing DT" = Situational...?
FargoHawk wrote:If Deandre Hopkins starts to slip into the mid-2nd round I would LOVE it if we moved up to get him. That guy just impresses the heck out of me.
Timmahawk wrote:I'm rooting for a WR at 56. We need to get Golden or Sid's replacement, WR takes a bit to adjust to the NFL, and this year has great depth in the draft. I think we have Sid for the next two years, he will be too expensive to keep for 2015 unless he restructures. If we sign Golden, Sid could be gone after next season. I could actually see us picking up 2 WR in this years draft and using one of our late round picks on a JS special.
I would love if our first 3 picks were WR, TE, and OT. We are spending a boatload on offense right now and need to get cheaper and younger so we can afford to keep Earl, Sherm, and Wilson.
Wenhawk wrote:To add onto your question, I think it must be a player at #56 that should be projected to contribute in a major role say at least 40% of the snaps should be a realistic option.
On offense pick #56 won't beat out QB, RB, LT, RT, C, #1 TE, #1 WR, Slot WR, FB
That leaves RG, LG, #2 WR, and #2 TE as positions where the most playing time is up for grabs
On Defense pick #56 won't beat out FS, SS, #1 CB, #2 CB, SLB, MLB, RDE, LDE, #1DT (Mebane), #2 DT (Bennett)
That leaves #3 DT, WLB, Nickle CB as the positions where the most playing time is up for grabs
So heres my order by priority of the positions where I think playing time is actually up for grabs
WLB, #3 DT, Nickle CB, #2 TE, #2 WR, RG, and LG.
So a big surprise that mabye makes the most sense but that would throw people off would be a WR at #56, With the aqusition of Harvin most wouldn't expect us to add another WR so early. I can see the logic becase Tate is a FA next year and PC like big WR's. This would be almost be like a redshirt year while the big WR would fight Tate for the #2 and likely get most time in the redzone or backing up Rice. If Rice goes down we will sorley lack a large WR target so some insurance would be nice, plus as expectations for that WR would be low. That's a plus because it seems to take most WR's time to develope.
Thoughts?
jammerhawk wrote:Another way of looking at things is which position would be most weakened by the loss of the starter?
If you combine your thinking in terms of available PT by with where the depth is most deficient there are some crossovers between both approaches.
In the most weakened line of thinking on D both NT (nobody on roster after Mebane) and 3 tech (are we all in on Bennett as the 3 tech with a torn Labrum?) are need areas as is WOLB, and NCB now we have Winfield. It can also be argued the team needs a better backup FS than Maragos.
On O besides the obvious ? Of what happens at QB if RW is out for any time. Is there enough depth at RB assuming injury to either of Lynch or Turbin? Is there a go to TE if Miller is out for an extended time? Is there any realistic depth at OT on the team? Does the team have a realistic backup big WR if Rice went down?
With this thinking the positional areas where depth might need to be added in no particular order are: DT (NT & 3 tech), WOLB, FS, & NCB on D. While on O: OT, QB,TE, big WR might be depth areas. The team is left to take a flyer or trade away one pick to hopefully recover the 3rd for next years draft lost in the Harvin deal.
Which pick happens at 56 depends on the best value available then still on the board.
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