So, tell me about 2nd round DT's

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So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:35 pm
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 6:52 pm
  • Bennie Logan LSU.
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:20 pm
  • Booooo on Logan! Yay for Margus Hunt! Oh...DTs you say? Hooray for.....ummm...uhhh...Brandon Williams? Yes! Brandon! And of course Montori Hughes the problem child.
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:36 pm
  • Short
    Sylvester
    Logan
    Williams

    Hughes is intriguing and could be that surprise.
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:42 pm
  • McGruff wrote:Short
    Sylvester
    Logan
    Williams

    Hughes is intriguing and could be that surprise.


    Quick google search and one of the first items was an article from SBNation linking Hughes to Seattle.

    http://www.fieldgulls.com/videos/2013/2 ... e-seahawks

    He looks mean... picking on my Ducks :( Before getting kicked off TEnnessee.

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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:48 pm
  • Here are the names to watch with an estimate of their likelihood at #56. Unscientific guessing, obviously. (Green denotes a player that I think would be a draft steal at #56). An asterisk (*) denotes a player that did not play DT in college, but has the potential for a move.

    Datone Jones (0% to 10%)

    The fastest and most productive DT in 2012, but has short arms and inconsistent tape. Finished season on a hot streak. I'm a fan. Opinions are mixed- could slide some- but probably won't.

    Kawann Short (10 to 20%)

    A great finesse DT that knows how to slip through gaps but isn't much of a physical force. Consistent year to year. Productive. Great pick if he's there at #56.

    Sylvester Williams (40%)

    Williams could slide because I don't think teams view him as a player with tons of untapped upside. He's more of an Allen Branch type than a Jason Jones type. Good player, and given the lack of alternatives, I'd be fine with taking him in the 2nd.

    Brandon Williams (70%)

    Huge (341 pounds), slow, but surprisingly he's a better pass rusher than run defender. One of the strangest 3-tech's you'll see. I think he's our most likely pick at #56.

    Bennie Logan (80%)

    Big and has decent athleticism, he's a well rounded DT that I think will be a league average DT. A poor man's Sylvester Williams.

    John Simon (80%)

    A favorite of mine. Some people have Simon going in the 2nd, others in the 5th.

    *Malliciah Goodman (80%)

    Extremely similar to Greg Scruggs in terms of speed, size, weight, arm length, and lack of experience at DT. Scruggs is better though and he was a 7th round pick last year.

    *Lavar Edwards (80%)

    Edwards is probably the closest thing to a Jason Jones in this draft (very similar height, length, arm length, speed, athleticism). Only problem is, he never played DT, so we don't have the best idea of how he'd handle that move.

    *Joe Kruger (80%)

    Like Edwards Kruger also didn't play DT, but as a DE he showed good strength and posted Jason Jones type measurables at the combine.

    Nick Williams (~100%)

    There is nothing of Nick Williams on youtube, but he comes from a small school and posted good measurables. Could be a surprise candidate or he could just be something to watch in the late rounds.

    There are other DTs worth noting (Jordan Hill, etc), but I think the rest of the list will either safely reach our 3rd round pick or they aren't 3-techs.

    P.S. Hughes is not a 3-tech, IMO. Zero pass rush ability, undeveloped and struggles with interior run defense, but he has a ton of anchor and pure core strength. Very similar to Red Bryant.
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:58 pm
  • Thanks. Good stuff.
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:04 pm
  • I think it entirely depends on what happens in free agency. If we stand pat with Scruggs, Howard or maybe sign Jones, we may pick a bigger, stouter guy like Jenkins, Hankins or Hughes. If we re-sign Branch, we could still be in play for Short, Williams or Logan . . .
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:04 pm
  • Did you say Brandon Williams was the "strangest" DT? Did you mean "strongest?"

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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:05 pm
  • Slim pickings when we pick. Well, large men but slim on upside.
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:07 pm
  • I really like John Jenkins IF he falls to us.

    I also think John Simon could be in play depending on if we re-sign Branch.
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:13 pm
  • McGruff wrote:I think it entirely depends on what happens in free agency. If we stand pat with Scruggs, Howard or maybe sign Jones, we may pick a bigger, stouter guy like Jenkins, Hankins or Hughes. If we re-sign Branch, we could still be in play for Short, Williams or Logan . . .


    Man, completely forgot Jay Howard was even on the roster.
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 8:33 pm
  • JSeahawks wrote:
    McGruff wrote:I think it entirely depends on what happens in free agency. If we stand pat with Scruggs, Howard or maybe sign Jones, we may pick a bigger, stouter guy like Jenkins, Hankins or Hughes. If we re-sign Branch, we could still be in play for Short, Williams or Logan . . .


    Man, completely forgot Jay Howard was even on the roster.


    He's kind of the wildcard. Quinn knows him as well as anyone, and gave Pete a good recommendation for him. Maybe he's a surprise starter?
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Tue Mar 12, 2013 9:34 pm
  • I actually don't think Datone Jones is a 1st round pick. My guess is he'll go between 34-45, but he could fall to 56 in my opinion.
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Wed Mar 13, 2013 7:50 am
  • I like Jordan Hill in rd 3. I think the priority is now re-signing Alan Branch and/or Jason Jones.
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Wed Mar 13, 2013 10:30 am
  • Jordan Hill sucked in the 40/mobility drills at his pro day
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:26 pm
  • sutz wrote:Did you say Brandon Williams was the "strangest" DT? Did you mean "strongest?"

    ;)


    Strangest. Huge, slow, short arm, low motor... yet despite that he struggles against the run and is surprisingly good rushing the QB out of the 3-tech.
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Re: So, tell me about 2nd round DT's
Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:28 pm
  • lukerguy wrote:I actually don't think Datone Jones is a 1st round pick. My guess is he'll go between 34-45, but he could fall to 56 in my opinion.


    Opinion on him is very mixed. I think he goes 1st round though since there is a very large emphasis on "upside" and "athleticism" this year, and Datone Jones is the poster child for that kind of pick.
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