Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:35 pm
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Surprised more people don't talk about Margus Hunt.. I feel like he's a high energy guy that can get to QB's. Wouldn't be upset at all with him as our pick.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 12:42 pm
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Honestly, I think whoever first said Hunt was "Jordan Kent the DE" pretty much nailed it. Super high potential, but he's not a football player. Very high likelihood to bust.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 1:12 pm
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jhern87 wrote:
Surprised more people don't talk about Margus Hunt.. I feel like he's a high energy guy that can get to QB's. Wouldn't be upset at all with him as our pick.
High energy and Hunt don't belong in the same sentence.
"Dazed and confused" maybe, but not high energy.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:35 pm
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If they can re-sign Branch I'm thinking they will probably go for a LB to replace Hill, if not then they will probably look at DT. People seem dead set on Hill leaving, even though don't forget PC/JS have no problems taking a chance on players with character issues. And with Hill having just got a DUI they could probably steal him on the cheap, even for the simple matter of depth. But ideally I think Khaseem Greene is a great choice at LB and if Jessie Williams is still around I like him at DT.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:24 am
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Sio Moore.....
.....at #56 if he is still there I will be completely amazed.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:27 am
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 5:59 pm
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:33 pm
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Tyrann Mathieu is really growing on me. We have addressed our pass rushing needs on the DL, we have added a dynamic playmaker on offense. Pre-FA most would agree, Pass rush DT, DE, WLB, WR, #2 TE, and nickle CB are or biggest weaknesses.
I see WLB, #2 TE, and nickle CB as our priorities going into the draft. We have heard numerous times how PC&JS "unique players", players that love the game and love to compete, players that have that knack for making big plays. PC hates to turn the ball over and will do just about anything to produce more turnovers on defense and has built our roster to accommodate that desire.
So a guy who have been extremely devalued but bring his A game when he's on the field in Mathieu. He could be a very special player and one that immediately makes an impact. He'd be an excellent nickle CB and has a knack for making interceptions, returning kicks for TD's, causing fumbles, and just straight up hitting hard. He is the DB version of Percy Harvin, or possibly the CB version of Bob Sanders or Earl Thomas.
So as of today Mathieu is a player that will very likely be there at #56, would surprise many people when taken, would surprise many people with production, and is a player that has had to battle adversity and probably has a chip on his shoulder.
His hard hits would fit our defense well 0:26 1:19
His knack for forced fumbles is amazing 1:04 2:45 3:05
Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Sat Mar 16, 2013 11:59 pm
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#56? I'm rooting for Cliff Avril to tear it up
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 12:07 am
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"Compares To: Antoine Winfield, CB, Minnesota Vikings -- Like the 5-09, 180 pound Winfield, Mathieu has Pro Bowl potential due to his tenacity, instincts and physicality." --Rob Rang http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/play ... nn-mathieu
He'd be a great fit for the LoB, I think they would let him in the group and keep him out of trouble.
Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 7:34 am
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Terron Armstead. Can play RT or guard and is PC athletic.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:34 am
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You know what? Totally against the grain, but I want Marcus Lattimore at #56. Yeah, I know, a reach at #56, right? We don't have a NEED at RB, right?
A healthy Lattimore has more upside than anyone available at this spot. Yes, I understand that the key word is healthy. Injured? So what? Let him sit for the majority (if not all) of 2013. Use the time to rehab and learn the playbook. Get him on the field in 2014 and let him work his magic.
I know that Lynch is money. I know that Turbin may be next in line for the job. However, I don't want to risk taking these guys for granted. Lynch has so many miles beyond his years, who knows how much more he has left to give on a full-time basis? Who knows whether Turbin has what it takes to contribute in an expanded role? Let's not forget how many of us clamored for the coaches to let Forsett to claim his "rightful spot" as starting RB just a few years back.
I'd rather be the team that swung and missed on a longshot than the team lamenting getting cute and letting him slip away when interviewed in the HOF documentary.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:50 am
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I'm going to go WR, i think this is the last year for Sydney. I'd love to see the Hawks draft a outside WR, let him get learn under Sydney this year and then taking over that starting role next year. With that said i'll take Hopkins, Hunter, Williams, Woods, etc. at 56.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:09 pm
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getnasty wrote:
I'm going to go WR, i think this is the last year for Sydney. I'd love to see the Hawks draft a outside WR, let him get learn under Sydney this year and then taking over that starting role next year. With that said i'll take Hopkins, Hunter, Williams, Woods, etc. at 56.
This is a definite possibility if Rice has a sub par season. It could help free money for future free agent issues.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Sun Mar 17, 2013 8:21 pm
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Bennie Logan. I was rooting for him at 25, but I hope he falls to 56, that'd be phenomenal.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 5:55 am
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Just like a Game 7 in playoff basketball, BIG GAME football is all about matchups and game changing plays. No second chances. Winner take all. Tyrann Mathieu is my selection at #56, & without a doubt in the 3rd round. He is a dynamic playmaker, game changer, difference maker, and turnover creator. And here are my reasons...
We need quality over quantity these days in Superbowl favorite land people. We have 10 picks and there aren't 10 open roster slots in the final 53. We all love the fact that we are closer than we have ever been to winning it all... so, lets get real. Its football. One year ago, this guy is a top quality, ultra talented, 'Ball So Hard' top ten pick!!! Mark my words, a month from now... it would be a Russell Wilson style draft coup to get this guy at 56, let alone 87.
Forget 2nd round DTs & LBs, we can get those in the later rounds. What we need desperately is a better nickel CB to help us get off the field on 3rd downs, thus, I bring Mathieu into the fold as the missing "Fifth element" of the Legion of Boom.
Get him out of friggin' LSUisiana, let bygones be bygones, and let him feel a whole "new family" feeling of the Team, the 12th Man, and a sold out Century Link rockin' a high like no other! Besides, all it would take for Tyrann is creating a bigtime turnover vs. the Whiners, or returning a punt for a TD at the C-Link, and he'd be 'hooked' on a whole new healthy lifestyle.
Did Bruce Irvin have ATL regional history, major baggage, and was he a "risky pick"? YES. Did he get into trouble and revert to his old ways? A RESOUNDING NO.
Before we went JS/PC crazy in freeagency, and got real playmaker/game changer in Percy Harvin for the slot, and 2 of the best 3 available passrushing DEs, I would have considered DE in Rd. 1, and Zach Ertz and/or Ryan Swope at #56 as similar 12th man fan favorites who would make a difference as offensive 3rd down specialists. The goal being in my mind to try and gain more first downs and keep opposing high powered offenses off the field. After all, it wasn't so long ago we were scoring approximately 20 points a game y'know... and we can't always play from 2 or 3 TDs behind and expect road playoff miracles. Sure, if we score 50 every week? No problem...
BUT... our biggest obstacles to Superbowl Immmortality are the Falcons, the 49ers, and Peyton Manning and the Denver Broncos. To win those BIGTIME games we need to win the turnover battle, get off the field on third downs, and get the ball back into the potent hands of Russell Wilson and Company. Sure, now, we can score... but to win the Lombardi Trophy we need to prevent the 49ers, Falcons, and Broncos from scoring more.
In summation, the pick is the 'HoneyBadger', Tyrann Mathieu, CB, LSU. "The Look" on the field is like so... On "basic" third downs, we take runstuffers Red, KJ, and Morgan off... Bring in Irvin, Mathieu, & Bennett... drop Chancellor to the coverageLB... & go with 5 pass rushers, Bobby Wagner and "OUR 5" vs. "THEIR 5". (D-line/defensive backs vs. o-line/offensive backs) like so...
{M.Ryan} {Clabo, Konz, McClure, Blalock, S. Baker} {R. White, J. Rogers, H. Douglas, Gonzalez, J. Jones}
[Kaepernick] [A. Davis, Iupati, Goodwin, Boone, Staley] [Crabtree, L. James, Boldin, V. Davis, Moss]
vs. Irvin, Avril, Mebane, Bennett, Clemens B. Wagner Sherman, Mathieu, Thomas, Chancellor, Browner
I believe with our newfound passrush specialists, and a "playmaking nickel corner with Legion of Boom attitude" at #56, (let alone #87) we can legitimately lineup with, and defeat, ANYBODY.
And to me, that smells like Superbowl victory.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 6:50 am
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I think we pick no one and trade our 2nd this year for a third this year and a third next year.
If we stay in the 2nd though I think we make a very unsexy pick and take Menelik Watson as Giacomini's replacement or to play guard. This is also assuming we resign Branch.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
We still have a month to go, and I want to see how the rest of F.A. goes and whom John takes care of that were on the team last year. At that point I am simply going to take B.P.A / Need.
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:32 am
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Here is my wish list for the 2nd round in order, WR Chris Harper, Kansas St LB Sio Moore, UConn WR Markus Wheaton, Oregon St DT Brandon Williams TE Zach Ertz, Stanford
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Post subject: Re: So, which players are you rooting for at #56?
Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 8:08 pm
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After looking at ESPN insiders Draft Ranking by Tier http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft201 ... lent-tiers It looks like in the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th round we are really going to have our pick of some quality players. This is a very deep draft, i listed #46-#110 but removed the players at RB, QB, S, and OL I figured would not be on our radar.
ESPN Rank Player POS School HT WT Grade 46 Cornellius Carradine DE Florida State 6-4⅛ 276 84 47 Gavin Escobar* TE San Diego State 6-5⅞ 254 84 48 Sio Moore OLB Connecticut 6-0 245 84 49 Brandon Williams DT Missouri Southern St 6-1¼ 335 84 52 Aaron Dobson WR Marshall 6-2¾ 210 84 53 Johnthan Banks CB Mississippi State 6-2 185 83 55 Jesse Williams DT Alabama 6-3⅜ 323 83 56 Terrance Williams WR Baylor 6-2 208 83 57 Kyle Long OG Oregon 6-6⅛ 313 83 58 Jamar Taylor CB Boise State 5-10⅝ 192 82 60 Khaseem Greene OLB Rutgers 6-0¾ 241 82 61 Terron Armstead OT Arkansas-Pine Bluff 6-4¾ 306 82 62 Robert Woods* WR USC 6-0⅜ 201 82 63 Matt Elam* S Florida 5-9⅞ 208 81 64 Datone Jones DE UCLA 6-3⅞ 283 81 65 Arthur Brown OLB Kansas State 6-0⅜ 241 81 66 EJ Manuel QB Florida State 6-4⅝ 237 81 69 Jordan Reed* TE Florida 6-2½ 236 80 73 Travis Kelce TE Cincinnati 6-4⅞ 255 79 74 Eric Reid* DS LSU 6-1¼ 213 78 75 Robert Alford DC Southeastern Louisiana 5-10⅛ 188 78 76 Corey Lemonier* DE Auburn 6-3⅜ 255 78 77 Bennie Logan* DT LSU 6-1⅞ 309 78 78 Kiko Alonso ILB Oregon 6-3⅜ 238 78 80 Vance McDonald TE Rice 6-4⅛ 267 78 83 Logan Ryan* CB Rutgers 5-11⅛ 191 77 85 Jamie Collins OLB Southern Miss 6-3½ 250 77 86 Bacarri Rambo DS Georgia 6-0½ 211 77 87 Markus Wheaton WR Oregon State 5-11 189 77 90 Brandon Jenkins OLB Florida State 6-2½ 251 76 91 B.W. Webb CB William & Mary 5-10¼ 184 76 95 Marc Anthony CB California 5-11⅜ 196 75 96 Stedman Bailey* WR West Virginia 5-10¼ 193 75 97 Kevin Reddick ILB North Carolina 6-1⅜ 243 75 98 Alex Okafor DE Texas 6-4½ 264 74 99 Barrett Jones OC Alabama 6-4½ 306 74 100 DeVonte Holloman OLB South Carolina 6-1⅜ 243 74 101 Steve Williams* CB California 5-8⅞ 181 74 102 Jordan Mills OT Louisiana Tech 6-5 316 74 103 Darius Slay CB Mississippi State 5-11⅞ 192 73 107 William Gholston* DE Michigan State 6-6¼ 281 72 109 Mike Gillislee RB Florida 5-11⅛ 208 72
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