theENGLISHseahawk wrote:pehawk wrote:So, with that, if they go DL, it'll be Ziggy IMO. I understand why people would assume Hunt qualifies, but IMO, he doesn't possess a passion for playing like other Hawks.
Can you qualify the final part of that sentence?
SoCalHawk wrote:I think Okafor probably deserves a 2nd round grade, and won't be drafted by Seattle."
SharkHawk wrote:Who made up the Jason Jones/Ansah comparison? It makes no sense. They are NOTHING alike. Jones is a tall guy who plays in the middle. Ansah is a speedy defensive end, not a tall defensive tackle. He plays in a 3-3-5 or 3-4 because that is what BYU runs. But he is suited to a DE in a 4-3 like Seattle runs. He is nothing like Red Bryant. He is nothing like Jason Jones. He is like Chris Clemons with more speed. He reminds me of Julius Peppers. Is he a Jason Jones clone too?
Hawk Finn wrote:No love for Syracuse DE Brandon Sharpe?
kearly wrote:I think part of the appeal for Jones was his flexibility. This team loves players that can cover mutliple positions, so I have my gaze fixated on Ansah as the draft moves on. I'd rather just bring Jones back and hope he can stay healthy, but Ansah provides pass rush from all over the line and could help make our pass rush less predictable. He could play LEO, 5-tech, 3-tech and even 1-tech on 3rd downs.
aawolf wrote:Sorry to derail this thread, but watching these highlights, I noticed how WVU Geno Smith was very good at staying in the pocket and delivering strongly and accurately under pressure. He forces the ball into very tight windows, which may be a concern, but his accuracy is off the charts. He's going to be a starter in the NFL and I wouldn't be suprised if he's drafted #1 overall.
kearly wrote:Hawk Finn wrote:No love for Syracuse DE Brandon Sharpe?
I just watched him in the only youtube video I could find, a game between Syracuse and Rutgers. Sharpe looks undersized and was physically a non-factor, like Barkevious Mingo minus the magic. Brandon Coleman (Rutgers) stood out though. Looked phenomenal. He's probably going to be a very high pick next year.
kearly wrote:I should reiterate, Chris Clemons is not an athletic freak. Raheem Brock ran a forty time that was just barely faster than what Dontari Poe had. Bruce Irvin IS fast, but still appears incapable of being a true LEO due to other shortcomings.
Sadly, there just isn't an "ideal" LEO in this draft that will reach our pick. Even Clemons isn't truly one. I don't think Okafor is going to be a super star, but I think he could give us maybe 75%-90% of what Clemons does. If you watch him closely, you'll see that Texas kept alternating him from a 5-tech role to a 9-tech role during games. As a 5-tech he's just okay, but as a 9-tech he improves dramatically and is constantly creating pressure.
I kind of hope Seattle goes TE/WR at #25 because that's where I think the value is, but if they draft DL there instead (assuming Red Bryant isn't going anywhere), I think Okafor could work out very nicely as a pure LEO.
My preference would be to sign Cliff Avril in FA, but if Seattle ends up having to address the D-line in the draft early, and a colossal trade up is off the table (likely), I think Okafor is one of the best realistic options at #25. I would much rather take a poor man's Chris Clemons over a Jason Jones clone (Ansah as a 3-tech), or an Alan Branch type (Kawann Short, Sharrif Floyd). Seattle can survive another season of Branch + Jones if it came to that. But they can't survive a season that banks on Irvin playing the LEO or Clemons playing the LEO at half capacity. LEO has to be a huge consideration. I think guys like Okafor and Simon are worth long looks as LEO candidates. Though Simon is the better pass rusher, I would prefer Okafor just because he does not come with any exploitable features like Simon does.