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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks should go after the huney badger.
 Post Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 6:41 pm 
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Dont we already have a defensive backfield with the threat of suspensions looming around every corner?

Or, sure...why not!

I do like him as a player though. And wish the NCAA and NFL would find better things to do rather than suspend pot-smokers.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks should go after the huney badger.
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I doubt he even gets drafted.

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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks should go after the huney badger.
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Isn't he a return specialist with speed as well? I'll take him.

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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks should go after the huney badger.
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Isn't he a return specialist with speed as well? I'll take him.


You just don't know what kind of "speed" he has.

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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks should go after the huney badger.
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He'll get drafted - may go all the way up to 3rd.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks should go after the huney badger.
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He'll get drafted. The Rams drafted Janoris Jenkins in the 2nd round I believe, and he had tons more off field incidents than the hunny badger did.

I would say he's better than Jenkins and wouldn't be surprised to see someone take him in the 2nd. We really don't need him...if Lane is as good as they said he was this year in the offseason, plus Thurmond, we already have 3 very good CBs plus depth. I'd take him in the 4th if he fell that low, but I'd rather spend our 2nd or 3rd on a OLB, WR, or RT.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks should go after the huney badger.
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I've heard mostly late to undrafted range. He's small and not that fast. Not to mention a lot of weed.

However I think he could make sense as nickel type player. He seems plenty physical and quick.


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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks should go after the huney badger.
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Classic "good in college, won't do crap in the NFL" type of player methinks....

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 Post subject: Re: Seahawks should go after the huney badger.
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That would be smart - legalized pot and honey badger all in one year....


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 Post subject: Re: Tyrann Mathieu
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Some people don't know this is the honey badger

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 Post subject: Re: Tyrann Mathieu
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The only way I see him being drafted by Seattle is as a backup to Earl Thomas, and he'd have to convert to safety to do that. Mathieu is only 5'9". Just seems like a stretch to me. PC/JS have avoided obvious headcases in the past, and the few times they didn't they ended up regretting it.

Also, I would not be surprised is Mathieu went undrafted- I see a lot of draft stock similarities to Vontaze Burfict. If he's available in the 5th round, it's not because he got less than 5th round grades. It's because he's not even on most draft boards.


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 Post subject: Re: Tyrann Mathieu
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ESPNs Todd McShaytm rated him as having 2nd round film, but because of his attitude & off-field issues will probably drop to the 3rd or 4th round.

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 Post subject: Re: Tyrann Mathieu
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The closest comparison of a player over the years I can think of is a guy named Chris Canty who played for Kansas State back in the mid-90's. Chris played for the Hawks for at least part of a season. He was amazing in college. He was the best DB in the country his last season, but he just never had "it" in the NFL. Chris wasn't a head-case in the way that Honey Badger seems to be, but he was always known as a me-first kind of guy and came off as a wanna-be Deion Sanders without all of the talent. He was a bit undersized, but had a game very much like Mathieu.

So yeah, I think a team will certainly take a chance on him, but things are changing because of Goodell and the ease with which he'll take a season away without much thought. This kid will come into the league with a target on him. If he says he'll enter a voluntary weekly testing program and do all of the things that Dez Bryant is doing now and should have done from day 1 then who knows.... the sky could be the limit.

I kind of feel like he's more Devin Hester than Adam Jones though in big play ability. Both great when they get the ball in their hands, but Hester wasn't really a DB, but he was listed as one in college (but drafted as an "athlete"). There was no way he was going to play that position of DB as a pro though. Mathieu can play DB as a pro like PacMan has and yes, he could be an excellent option as an "athlete", but I think I have to go back to my example of Burfict on a player that is an NFL quality player and has played really well, was a real thumper in college, and went completely unpicked. Yes, he was a LBer and they are easier to find than great DB's, but I think he'll have a very short leash and will go to a team like Dallas that thinks they can handle anything. I don't see him ending up in Seattle. I wish him all the luck in the world and hope he finds some happiness. I am quite the bleeding heart and I'll freely admit it. Over the years I've met more than my fair share of drug addicts, and in almost every case they were self-medicating over some pretty severe issues. Rarely did it start out as "just for fun" and develop to a hardcore drug addiction. Those who experiment with drugs in college and high school and such and don't have some deep underlying "issue" just typically leave it behind and don't fall into addiction. That's why when they talk about politicians who smoked pot once or 100 times in college I just don't care. I'd care if they were baked with their hand on the button. But in general, we all did stuff in college that we wouldn't want on camera. Hopefully this is the case with Mathieu. If not... then I hope he gets his head right and makes a living doing something that he's clearly very good at.

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 Post subject: Re: Tyrann Mathieu
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I am quite the bleeding heart and I'll freely admit it. Over the years I've met more than my fair share of drug addicts, and in almost every case they were self-medicating over some pretty severe issues. Rarely did it start out as "just for fun" and develop to a hardcore drug addiction. Those who experiment with drugs in college and high school and such and don't have some deep underlying "issue" just typically leave it behind and don't fall into addiction. That's why when they talk about politicians who smoked pot once or 100 times in college I just don't care. I'd care if they were baked with their hand on the button. But in general, we all did stuff in college that we wouldn't want on camera. Hopefully this is the case with Mathieu. If not... then I hope he gets his head right and makes a living doing something that he's clearly very good at.


He was busted for weed. Plenty of guys have been busted for it and its legal in two US states. Its NOT a "gateway" drug, no more than alcohol is..... although I think the federal government would like people to still believe it is.

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 Post subject: Re: Tyrann Mathieu
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Read my post again for my thoughts on weed and drugs in general. I believe you missed the point, or maybe you're just saying something else entirely. No quite sure here.

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 Post subject: Re: Tyrann Mathieu
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I am quite the bleeding heart and I'll freely admit it. Over the years I've met more than my fair share of drug addicts, and in almost every case they were self-medicating over some pretty severe issues. Rarely did it start out as "just for fun" and develop to a hardcore drug addiction. Those who experiment with drugs in college and high school and such and don't have some deep underlying "issue" just typically leave it behind and don't fall into addiction. That's why when they talk about politicians who smoked pot once or 100 times in college I just don't care. I'd care if they were baked with their hand on the button. But in general, we all did stuff in college that we wouldn't want on camera. Hopefully this is the case with Mathieu. If not... then I hope he gets his head right and makes a living doing something that he's clearly very good at.


He was busted for weed. Plenty of guys have been busted for it and its legal in two US states. Its NOT a "gateway" drug, no more than alcohol is..... although I think the federal government would like people to still believe it is.

What anybody thinks about weed is immaterial. What the NFL thinks about weed is all that matters. And they don't like it.

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