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The 2019 Recruiting thread

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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Jan 30, 2019 9:11 am
  • I’d also add that UW seems to have a super strong pull in the Polynesian communities right now. There are a lot of great Poly players and they tend to want to play with other Poly’s. UW is killing it there.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Jan 30, 2019 10:27 am
  • JSeahawks wrote:(... but there offensive class kind of sucks.)


    The offensive line class is actually really solid, maybe best in the Pac-12, but they've pretty much struck out on most of the skill position targets.

    The poly connection right now is kind of insane for UW. Depending on how things end, they could have 20 kids with poly backgrounds from the last two recruiting classes. Outside of Hawaii, that might me more than anyone else in the country.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Jan 30, 2019 11:53 am
  • Ikaika Malloe is killing it. Washington had a strong Poly presence in the 80s/90s. Seems they lost that to Oregon in the 90s and through the 00s.

    I think the appeal is in several parts. One, it's relative proximity to the talent pool. Also, Washington has cultivated a strong defensive team identity which appeals to poly recruits that tend to succeed on that side of the ball. They also have Islanders at key/important positions on staff. Additionally, the program exudes the kind of culture that really appeals to Islanders. Trust, Honor and Respect. There is a familial kind of vibe with the program. That Pete is seen as likely not looking for the next big thing is likely a strong contributing factor. That the program is genuinely looking for player well being not program (Ale Kaho situation last year) is a selling point too. There is an intentional emphasis on building a program that appeals to the sensibilities and values that Islanders typically hold and that appeal looks like it exists on many interconnected levels.

    I don't think Washington is necessarily unique in that respect. But they are very strong in it. There is a very distinguished sense that these values are genuine with Coach Pete and it resonates.

    EDIT: I would expect this advantage to continue and be largely self sustaining if the current environment is maintained. We've seen it whether here, Oregon or as SC -- when Poly kids congregate on a program, they largely remain plugged into that pipeline for years.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:03 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:What do you attribute the attraction to Washington and Oregon is at the moment? Are they getting players that would typically go to the California schools? SEC getting overcrowded with talent?

    Would be nice to see Pac-12 compete at the same level as the Big 10 has recently (before it starts challenging SEC of course)


    UW is not only winning but sending early round NFL draftees every year, that is huge. USC and UCLA are doing neither of those things. Plus, the coaching stability at USC is very rocky right now and no one is buying into Chip Kelly at the moment.

    Oregon is trying to sell something they have no background for. Cristobal has never really won at anything as a coach and Oregon was a couple of lucky breaks away from being a 6-5 team last year. I guess it is partly the Nike national brand that is so connected with Oregon (a part of modern culture), billionaire facilities, and the fact that Cristobal has sold the fact that, especially after this year, Oregon needs everything - so early playing time. But honestly, I can't figure it out, the off-campus environment in Eugene is very foreign to most of these players.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Jan 30, 2019 6:55 pm
  • Attyla the Hawk wrote:Ikaika Malloe is killing it. Washington had a strong Poly presence in the 80s/90s. Seems they lost that to Oregon in the 90s and through the 00s.

    I think the appeal is in several parts. One, it's relative proximity to the talent pool. Also, Washington has cultivated a strong defensive team identity which appeals to poly recruits that tend to succeed on that side of the ball. They also have Islanders at key/important positions on staff. Additionally, the program exudes the kind of culture that really appeals to Islanders. Trust, Honor and Respect. There is a familial kind of vibe with the program. That Pete is seen as likely not looking for the next big thing is likely a strong contributing factor. That the program is genuinely looking for player well being not program (Ale Kaho situation last year) is a selling point too. There is an intentional emphasis on building a program that appeals to the sensibilities and values that Islanders typically hold and that appeal looks like it exists on many interconnected levels.

    I don't think Washington is necessarily unique in that respect. But they are very strong in it. There is a very distinguished sense that these values are genuine with Coach Pete and it resonates.

    EDIT: I would expect this advantage to continue and be largely self sustaining if the current environment is maintained. We've seen it whether here, Oregon or as SC -- when Poly kids congregate on a program, they largely remain plugged into that pipeline for years.


    This is a very good post re: UW's philosophy.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Thu Jan 31, 2019 10:18 pm

Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Fri Feb 01, 2019 5:15 pm
  • JSeahawks wrote:Sounds like the huskies are positioned for a pretty strong finish. I think they land Heimuli at linebacker. Sounds like Asa Turner isback favoring the huskies after flirting with Notre Dame. Have a good shot at Puke Nacua. And I’ve heard some rumors that near 5 star linebacker Henry to’oo’to May be leaning towards UW over Alabama.

    Oregon is going to finish with their best class ever (at least on paper), even if they don’t add anybody else before signing day. I’m not sure what Washington’s best class ever, but I would assume this might be it for them as well.


    Well, it looks like we got Turner back, if we get the others you mentioned this would be a spectacular class.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Sat Feb 02, 2019 1:57 pm
  • The_Z_Man wrote:The 1991 Husky Class with Napolean Kaufman, Damon Huard, Mark Bruener, Ernie Conwell, Steve Hoffmann, et.

    Had the equivalent of a dozen 4 and 5 star plays, and of course, Kaufman who many considered the best player in the country (and turned out to be exactly that... he was insanely talented). It was ranked top 5 in the nation by most folks, with one publication saying it was #1 -- don't remember if that was Athlon or not.


    Yep, while it was true that DJ did well without highly ranked classes very early in his career here, it is a myth that we never had top recruiting classes.

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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:19 am
  • Dawgs are getting Smalls.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:12 pm
  • Tical21 wrote:Dawgs are getting Smalls.


    Have you seen him play? For what its worth, a few people on my Ducks site who have seen him play in person think he's extremely overrated. And this is not sour grapes because they think he's going to UW, we actually think we have a really good shot with him. He visited Oregon 3 or 4 times this season.

    Btw, when i say they think he's overrated... they do say he's a really good player, just nowhere near the #4 overall player in the country as he is rated.

    For those that might not be familiar, tical is talking about Sav'ell Smalls, who's the #1 olb and #4 overall player in next years class. He goes to Garfield High school in Seattle.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:24 pm
  • So the night before signing day. A few rumors on the things that are still up in the air and to be determined...

    Sounds like the Ducks only new commitment tomorrow will be a 4 star DT from Memphis, Tennessee Kristian Williams.

    They're also highly likely to grab senior transfer WR Juwan Johnson from Penn State, but thats probably a few days away and probably wont come out tomorrow.

    The Huskies are almost certain to land 4 star linebacker from California Daniel Heimuli tomorrow.

    High 4 star LB Henry To'oto'o is picking between UW and Alabama tomorrow. A month ago it was thought that he was all Alabama but Tosh Lupoi (To'oto'o's lead recruiter) leaving Alabama gave UW an opening, and reportedly they've really taken advantage of that, So he's one to keep an eye on tomorrow. Gun to my head, I think he chooses Bama, but UW definitely has a shot.

    The other guy to keep an eye on is 4 star WR Puka Nacua. He is currently committed to USC, but most think that he's going to flip to either UW or UO, with very little chance he actually signs with USC. If he does indeed sign tomorrow (which is just the first day of the signing period... they have a few weeks to do it), it will likely be UW. They're considered the leaders at this point. He just visited Oregon over the weekend and he loved it, but Oregon doesnt even have a WR coach at the moment (Ours left for Mississippi State). There are some rumors coming out tonight that he may not sign anywhere tomorrow and might wait to see who the Ducks hire as the new WR coach. Also he made a mid week trip to UCLA and Chip Kelly is reallly trying to work them into his decision. And USC is really pushing the opportunity in their new air raid offense. If i had to bet my house, i'd bet that he signs with UW tomorrow. But its reportedly pretty close, and he may not have even made a decision yet.

    One last thing, it sounds like 5 star WR Kyle Ford, who Oregon and Washington were both after, has decided to stick with USC.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:52 pm
  • Greg Biggins predicted Nacua to UW this afternoon. That's a pretty good sign.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 7:11 am
  • drrew wrote:Greg Biggins predicted Nacua to UW this afternoon. That's a pretty good sign.


    He's waiting to sign now. He wants to see who UO hires as WR coach.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:03 am
  • Greg Biggins just predicted To'oto'o to Tennessee. Not sure what time he's announcing today.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:47 am
  • JSeahawks wrote:Greg Biggins just predicted To'oto'o to Tennessee. Not sure what time he's announcing today.


    Sometime between 12 and 1 on ESPNU.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:59 am
  • Miami Hurricanes new 24 year old punter recruit from Australia. Looks like you'll find him singing for a death metal band on weekends.

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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:06 am
  • drrew wrote:Miami Hurricanes new 24 year old punter recruit from Australia. Looks like you'll find him singing for a death metal band on weekends.



    Not your average punter....
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:53 pm
  • CPHawk wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:What do you attribute the attraction to Washington and Oregon is at the moment? Are they getting players that would typically go to the California schools? SEC getting overcrowded with talent?

    Would be nice to see Pac-12 compete at the same level as the Big 10 has recently (before it starts challenging SEC of course)


    UW is not only winning but sending early round NFL draftees every year, that is huge. USC and UCLA are doing neither of those things. Plus, the coaching stability at USC is very rocky right now and no one is buying into Chip Kelly at the moment.

    Oregon is trying to sell something they have no background for. Cristobal has never really won at anything as a coach and Oregon was a couple of lucky breaks away from being a 6-5 team last year. I guess it is partly the Nike national brand that is so connected with Oregon (a part of modern culture), billionaire facilities, and the fact that Cristobal has sold the fact that, especially after this year, Oregon needs everything - so early playing time. But honestly, I can't figure it out, the off-campus environment in Eugene is very foreign to most of these players.



    100% everything you say is made up and a lie. Troll


    Every single thing I wrote is well documented, if anything, it is old news.

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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 1:27 pm
  • drrew wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:Greg Biggins just predicted To'oto'o to Tennessee. Not sure what time he's announcing today.


    Sometime between 12 and 1 on ESPNU.


    To'oto'o has indeed commited to Tennessee. Signing day surprise there. Most thought Alabama.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:12 pm
  • Heimuli is a Husky, as expected.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:21 pm
  • JSeahawks wrote:Heimuli is a Husky, as expected.


    Have to love a linebacker with the nickname Danny Hammers.

    That's it for UW today. We'll see what Nacua does over the next days/weeks.

    Anyone else Oregon is still waiting on?
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 2:30 pm
  • drrew wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:Heimuli is a Husky, as expected.


    Have to love a linebacker with the nickname Danny Hammers.

    That's it for UW today. We'll see what Nacua does over the next days/weeks.

    Anyone else Oregon is still waiting on?


    Just Nacua as well.

    Still looking at a couple of grad transfers, but doubt that is announced today.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:51 pm
  • JSeahawks wrote:
    drrew wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:Heimuli is a Husky, as expected.


    Have to love a linebacker with the nickname Danny Hammers.

    That's it for UW today. We'll see what Nacua does over the next days/weeks.

    Anyone else Oregon is still waiting on?


    Just Nacua as well.

    Still looking at a couple of grad transfers, but doubt that is announced today.


    I'm viewing Nacua not going today as a God send. I was thinking all WA, then it's being reported that he loved his trip to OR. On top of that he's been getting hammered by Graham Harrell and 2020 QB commit Bryce Young. I think the young man is wrestling with 3 schools he could be happy at and simply can't make up his mind.

    I think any of the 3 schools would be lucky to have him.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:10 pm
  • This is a really great defensive class for UDub, truly one of the best in the country.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 4:51 pm
  • One more late one for UW.

    Drew Fowler - 3* LB from Bellevue High School - committed to UW as a preferred walk-on over scholarship offers from UCLA and Utah. I hope the kid balls out and earns himself a full ride.

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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:11 pm
  • Anajimmc wrote:I'm viewing Nacua not going today as a God send. I was thinking all WA, then it's being reported that he loved his trip to OR. On top of that he's been getting hammered by Graham Harrell and 2020 QB commit Bryce Young. I think the young man is wrestling with 3 schools he could be happy at and simply can't make up his mind.

    I think any of the 3 schools would be lucky to have him.


    I cant imagine being a 17 year old and trying to make this decision. I've heard Chip Kelly is trying to make a late push for him as well. Yesterday I was pretty sure he was going to sign with UW today. Now, its a toss up.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 06, 2019 10:15 pm
  • DomeHawk wrote:This is a really great defensive class for UDub, truly one of the best in the country.


    Um did you see Oregons class?
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Thu Feb 07, 2019 9:45 am
  • Allweatherfan wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:This is a really great defensive class for UDub, truly one of the best in the country.


    Um did you see Oregons class?


    Oregon had an incredible class.

    On the defensive side of the ball, Oregon commits have an average 24/7 rating of 90.43

    UW is at 90.59.

    Both programs should be very very happy with their respective recruiting classes, and if Nacua picks either school, it will just be a nice cherry on top.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:04 am
  • drrew wrote:Oregon had an incredible class.

    On the defensive side of the ball, Oregon commits have an average 24/7 rating of 90.43

    UW is at 90.59.

    Both programs should be very very happy with their respective recruiting classes, and if Nacua picks either school, it will just be a nice cherry on top.


    This rivalry should be a lot of fun over the next handful of years. Very rarely have both teams been good at the same time.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:22 pm
  • Allweatherfan wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:This is a really great defensive class for UDub, truly one of the best in the country.


    Um did you see Oregons class?


    Um, did you see Oregon's defense the last few years?

    2018: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2017: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2016: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2015: UW #1 Pac-12 defense
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:31 pm
  • DomeHawk wrote:
    Allweatherfan wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:This is a really great defensive class for UDub, truly one of the best in the country.


    Um did you see Oregons class?


    Um, did you see Oregon's defense the last few years?

    1918: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    1917: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    1916: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    1915: UW #1 Pac-12 defense


    You know you're in the wrong century?
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:43 pm
  • JSeahawks wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:
    Allweatherfan wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:This is a really great defensive class for UDub, truly one of the best in the country.


    Um did you see Oregons class?


    Um, did you see Oregon's defense the last few years?

    1918: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    1917: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    1916: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    1915: UW #1 Pac-12 defense


    You know you're in the wrong century?


    Just wondering when in the early 1900's there was a Pac 12.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Thu Feb 07, 2019 1:45 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:
    Allweatherfan wrote:
    Um did you see Oregons class?


    Um, did you see Oregon's defense the last few years?

    1918: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    1917: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    1916: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    1915: UW #1 Pac-12 defense


    You know you're in the wrong century?


    Just wondering when in the early 1900's there was a Pac 12.


    ha-ha! multi-tasking and not doing one of the tasks very well.

    And, we're only 18+ years into this century, I'll catch up eventually.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Thu Feb 07, 2019 2:02 pm
  • chris98251 wrote:
    JSeahawks wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:
    Allweatherfan wrote:
    Um did you see Oregons class?


    Um, did you see Oregon's defense the last few years?

    1918: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    1917: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    1916: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    1915: UW #1 Pac-12 defense


    You know you're in the wrong century?


    Just wondering when in the early 1900's there was a Pac 12.


    Actually, it was the PCC or Pacific Coast Conference in those years.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:31 pm
  • DomeHawk wrote:
    Allweatherfan wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:This is a really great defensive class for UDub, truly one of the best in the country.


    Um did you see Oregons class?


    Um, did you see Oregon's defense the last few years?

    2018: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2017: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2016: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2015: UW #1 Pac-12 defense


    You just come accross so one sided that it is hard to take your strong one-sided opinion seriously. It's all credit to UW and invalidating others. It just makes for a weak argument.

    You discredit Cristobal as a coach and credit UW defense. However, Cristobal and Oregon beat UW this past season. Now Oregon has put together the best draft class of the Pac 12 and it is built around some amazing defensive recruits. Including the #1 recruit in the country.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:51 am
  • Update on Puka from Blair Angulo, who is the "mountain region recruiting analyst" for the 247 network. He's the guy that seems to be closest to Nacua's recruitment:


    "I'm told by a very reliable source in Utah that four-star receiver Puka Nacua has yet to make up his mind as of Thursday night. One moment it's Washington, the next it's Oregon. It's a ridiculously tight call right now.
    'It's 51 percent Washington, 49 percent Oregon,' a source said, 'but it swings.'
    A separate source told me this morning he thought Nacua was leaning toward the Ducks. Another source close to the recruitment told me this afternoon he thought Washington was in the lead.

    There is a chance that Nacua will look to close this out tonight and sign at some point Friday. A couple local TV stations in the Salt Lake City area have offered to broadcast his announcement since he was unable to reveal a college choice in front of family and friends at Orem's ceremony on Wednesday."


    Word is that Oregon is close to hiring Kasey Dunn away from Oklahoma State. One of the best WR coaches in the business. HOpefully that will help push Nacua our way.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:18 pm
  • Where are the rankings on college wr coaches?
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Fri Feb 08, 2019 2:31 pm
  • Uncle Si wrote:Where are the rankings on college wr coaches?


    Well, he's coached 3 of the last 9 Biletnikoff Winners (award given to the nations best wr).

    Was named best wide receiver coach in the country in 2017 by Football Scoop.

    http://footballscoop.com/news/kasey-dun ... oach-year/
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Fri Feb 08, 2019 3:30 pm
  • JSeahawks wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Where are the rankings on college wr coaches?


    Well, he's coached 3 of the last 9 Biletnikoff Winners (award given to the nations best wr).

    Was named best wide receiver coach in the country in 2017 by Football Scoop.

    http://footballscoop.com/news/kasey-dun ... oach-year/


    He's not much of a recruiter, but Oregon seems to have enough ace recruiters on staff. He'd be a good hire.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Fri Feb 08, 2019 4:26 pm
  • JSeahawks wrote:
    Uncle Si wrote:Where are the rankings on college wr coaches?


    Well, he's coached 3 of the last 9 Biletnikoff Winners (award given to the nations best wr).

    Was named best wide receiver coach in the country in 2017 by Football Scoop.

    http://footballscoop.com/news/kasey-dun ... oach-year/



    no offers from the pros?

    How many of his players are in the NFL?
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Sat Feb 09, 2019 12:52 pm
  • Puka signing tomorrow night. I think he’s going to Uw. Utah has also started to enter the conversation in the last 24 hours.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:31 pm
  • I know Oregon fans were a little disappointed with the Nacua news, but that's no reason to kill .net!
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:13 pm
  • Allweatherfan wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:
    Allweatherfan wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:This is a really great defensive class for UDub, truly one of the best in the country.


    Um did you see Oregons class?


    Um, did you see Oregon's defense the last few years?

    2018: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2017: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2016: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2015: UW #1 Pac-12 defense


    You just come accross so one sided that it is hard to take your strong one-sided opinion seriously. It's all credit to UW and invalidating others. It just makes for a weak argument.

    You discredit Cristobal as a coach and credit UW defense. However, Cristobal and Oregon beat UW this past season. Now Oregon has put together the best draft class of the Pac 12 and it is built around some amazing defensive recruits. Including the #1 recruit in the country.


    Of course I am one sided, that's my school, but that doesn't mean I lie or post ridiculous predictions like some here, (you know who you are).

    If you pay attention to my posts I generally post sources so it isn't just my opinion, it's supported by facts.

    Yes, Oregon had a great recruiting class this but what I said was their great recruiting isn't supported by anything. Mario Cristobal has a 36-54 coaching record and Jim Leavitt is the most overrated defensive coordinator in college football. The only time he has had a top-rated defense is when he had 4th and 5th year players at Colorado. Look at the last few years, Oregon's defense has been among the worst in the Pac-12 year after year.

    And, Oregon didn't beat the Huskies this year, Coach Petersen beat the Huskies this year with that horrible decision to not try to get closer or get a TD with a 1st down, two timeouts, and 32 seconds remaining.

    And I don't invalidate others, I invalidate Oregon because it is a corrupt program that utilizes the resources of a major corporation to build a brand, something that I, and many others feel is a direct violation of rules regarding unfair contributions. The fact that the NCAA doesn't have the balls to pursue that is a story for another thread.

    And, Oregon does not have the #1 recruiting class in the Pac, UW does. UW has an almost 2 to 1 ratio of 4-stars to 3-stars while Oregon has a less than 50/50 split. Those ratings are based upon algorithms and sites like Rivals who don't know WTF they are doing.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 13, 2019 5:30 pm
  • DomeHawk wrote:
    Allweatherfan wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:
    Allweatherfan wrote:
    Um did you see Oregons class?


    Um, did you see Oregon's defense the last few years?

    2018: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2017: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2016: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2015: UW #1 Pac-12 defense


    You just come accross so one sided that it is hard to take your strong one-sided opinion seriously. It's all credit to UW and invalidating others. It just makes for a weak argument.

    You discredit Cristobal as a coach and credit UW defense. However, Cristobal and Oregon beat UW this past season. Now Oregon has put together the best draft class of the Pac 12 and it is built around some amazing defensive recruits. Including the #1 recruit in the country.


    Of course I am one sided, that's my school, but that doesn't mean I lie or post ridiculous predictions like some here, (you know who you are).

    If you pay attention to my posts I generally post sources so it isn't just my opinion, it's supported by facts.

    Yes, Oregon had a great recruiting class this but what I said was their great recruiting isn't supported by anything. Mario Cristobal has a 36-54 coaching record and Jim Leavitt is the most overrated defensive coordinator in college football. The only time he has had a top-rated defense is when he had 4th and 5th year players at Colorado. Look at the last few years, Oregon's defense has been among the worst in the Pac-12 year after year.

    And, Oregon didn't beat the Huskies this year, Coach Petersen beat the Huskies this year with that horrible decision to not try to get closer or get a TD with a 1st down, two timeouts, and 32 seconds remaining.

    And I don't invalidate others, I invalidate Oregon because it is a corrupt program that utilizes the resources of a major corporation to build a brand, something that I, and many others feel is a direct violation of rules regarding unfair contributions. The fact that the NCAA doesn't have the balls to pursue that is a story for another thread.

    And, Oregon does not have the #1 recruiting class in the Pac, UW does. UW has an almost 2 to 1 ratio of 4-stars to 3-stars while Oregon has a less than 50/50 split. Those ratings are based upon algorithms and sites like Rivals who don't know WTF they are doing.


    Lmao
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 13, 2019 6:41 pm
  • JSeahawks wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:
    Allweatherfan wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:
    Um, did you see Oregon's defense the last few years?

    2018: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2017: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2016: UW #1 Pac-12 defense

    2015: UW #1 Pac-12 defense


    You just come accross so one sided that it is hard to take your strong one-sided opinion seriously. It's all credit to UW and invalidating others. It just makes for a weak argument.

    You discredit Cristobal as a coach and credit UW defense. However, Cristobal and Oregon beat UW this past season. Now Oregon has put together the best draft class of the Pac 12 and it is built around some amazing defensive recruits. Including the #1 recruit in the country.


    Of course I am one sided, that's my school, but that doesn't mean I lie or post ridiculous predictions like some here, (you know who you are).

    If you pay attention to my posts I generally post sources so it isn't just my opinion, it's supported by facts.

    Yes, Oregon had a great recruiting class this but what I said was their great recruiting isn't supported by anything. Mario Cristobal has a 36-54 coaching record and Jim Leavitt is the most overrated defensive coordinator in college football. The only time he has had a top-rated defense is when he had 4th and 5th year players at Colorado. Look at the last few years, Oregon's defense has been among the worst in the Pac-12 year after year.

    And, Oregon didn't beat the Huskies this year, Coach Petersen beat the Huskies this year with that horrible decision to not try to get closer or get a TD with a 1st down, two timeouts, and 32 seconds remaining.

    And I don't invalidate others, I invalidate Oregon because it is a corrupt program that utilizes the resources of a major corporation to build a brand, something that I, and many others feel is a direct violation of rules regarding unfair contributions. The fact that the NCAA doesn't have the balls to pursue that is a story for another thread.

    And, Oregon does not have the #1 recruiting class in the Pac, UW does. UW has an almost 2 to 1 ratio of 4-stars to 3-stars while Oregon has a less than 50/50 split. Those ratings are based upon algorithms and sites like Rivals who don't know WTF they are doing.


    Lmao


    Quote:

    "Jim Leavitt is the most overrated defensive coordinator in college football."

    L(MY)AO!!!
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Thu Feb 14, 2019 2:18 pm
  • Ducks expected to add senior transfer WR Juwan Johnson from Penn STate today. 6'4, 231. Had 54 catches as a sophomore, but slipped back to only 25 as a junior as he was dealing with injuries. Wouldnt be surprised if he's an opening day starter.

    He does a decent OBJ impression.

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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Tue Feb 19, 2019 5:54 pm
  • DomeHawk wrote:Is Mario Cristobal's coaching record my opinion?


    I love it when people bring up Cristobal's record. Yeah it's bad, very bad. That tends to happen when you inherit a team that went 0-12 the year before and then got put on 4 year probation (caused by the previous staff). Plus he had horrendous facilities. While this doesn't mean that he is a great coach you can't just throw out his record as proof he is crappy. I'm guessing his record would be much better if he had inherited the teams that Petersen did. Boise St was 9-4 the year prior and 11-1 two years before he took over. Hell even the Huskies were 9-4 the year before he took over.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Tue Feb 19, 2019 9:45 pm
  • DomeHawk wrote:
    DonovanJM wrote:
    DomeHawk wrote:Is Mario Cristobal's coaching record my opinion?


    I love it when people bring up Cristobal's record. Yeah it's bad, very bad. That tends to happen when you inherit a team that went 0-12 the year before and then got put on 4 year probation (caused by the previous staff). Plus he had horrendous facilities. While this doesn't mean that he is a great coach you can't just throw out his record as proof he is crappy. I'm guessing his record would be much better if he had inherited the teams that Petersen did. Boise St was 9-4 the year prior and 11-1 two years before he took over. Hell even the Huskies were 9-4 the year before he took over.


    Even if everything you mention is true, there is still no historical reason to suggest that Cristobal is a good coach. THAT was my point.

    In Cristobal's last year at FIU, where incidentally, none of the factors you mention existed, he went 3-9 and was fired.

    That's what I love about ducks, the greatest excuse makers in the world.


    I guess we will have to settle with the fact that Cristobal is 1-0 against Peterson. Of course, we have also won 13/15. Helfrich didn't do us any favors in his short stint, but all signs point to us rebounding from that fairly well. I'm just glad that the huskies are doing good enough that we can rekindle the rivalry, it's been very one sided for awhile.
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Re: The 2019 Recruiting thread
Wed Feb 20, 2019 6:39 am
  • Petersen didn't inherit anything worthwhile from Sark. He took a team mostly full of 3 stars and a few 4 stars and won the conference...twice. This year Washington will have much more talent out on the field although it will be younger. Look out, Pac12.

    The issue I would have with Cristobal is that he is very Sark-like. Wins a game he shouldn't but then loses 2 or 3 he should've won. Also, I watched the body language of of the Oregon players in some games this year and I saw some things I didn't like especially when they got behind. Well, I liked it because it was Oregon, but you know what I mean.

    Let's also not forget that Cristobal has not only been fired as a head coach, but has also been demoted as an assistant coach...twice.
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