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Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:08 pm
  • Assuming they place the franchise tag on Sheldon Richardson, is It safe to say RB and OL are the two main priorities to address in the 2018 draft?

    RB Saquon Barkley AND OG-Quenton Nelson/OT-Mike McGlinchey would be perfect!
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Re: RB and OL
Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:10 pm
  • Given the fact that we're having to depend on Jeremy Lane and Byron Maxwell as our starters right now, I think cornerback might be a position where they need to address the depth.
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Re: RB and OL
Mon Nov 27, 2017 11:44 am
  • Good point. Although I'd be good going into next season with a HEALTHY Sherman+Shead to go with Shaq, Maxwell (re-signed for cheap) and Coleman.

    Also, now Kam might not return next season, or ever, with a neck injury. :(
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Re: RB and OL
Mon Nov 27, 2017 7:22 pm
  • Yeah, I see the following as areas of need:

    OL, SS, CB.

    I don't think we need any more RB's. The problem isn't with the RB's, it's with the O-line. Just look at Alex Collins and what he's doing with the Ravens.

    I also do not think we should draft an OL. We have displayed no ability whatsoever to evaluate OL talent. None. So why keep wasting picks. Better to just go after proven linemen like Duane Brown.

    So I would go after SS and CB in the early rounds, depending on the talent available. It's too bad we wasted our last couple of first round picks as there were some really good SS's and CB's available, like Adoree Jackson, James Bradberry, Eddie Jackson and Miles Killebrew.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Tue Nov 28, 2017 11:54 am
  • The Seahawks apparently graded SS Delano Hill with a 1st or 2nd round grade last draft, so they might already have Kam's replacement to go along with Bradley McDougald.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:00 pm
  • They have plenty of DBs already. They have DeAndre Elliott on IR (should be back next season), Mike Tyson, and Akeem King on PS. Their biggest need would be DT if Richardson isn't re-signed and DE. Need to work on the Dline again and running back. There are some good rbs in this draft. Probably looking at another TE if they let Graham walk too.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:15 pm
  • With the potential emergence of Dion Jordan and Malik McDowell for the DL and Justin Senior and George Fant at RT, those positions may already be taken care of as well. Also, Ifedi had the best game of his career last Sunday. So have Fant, Senior, Ifedi, Pocic and Roos battle it out on the right side and bring back Joeckel (if cheaper than $8M) for LG with Odhiambo and Roos as depth there. So they already might be satisfied with what they already have there.

    If they let Graham go, I wouldn't mind picking a good in-line blocker like Anthony Fasano through free agency to help the run game and former Husky Austin Seferian-Jenkins if he can be had for a decent price. Those two to go with Willson and Vannett would alright.

    Personally hoping they enter next training camp with a RB group looking like:

    Carson
    1st or 2nd round pick
    mid or late round pick
    McKissic
    Prosise
    Rawls
    Davis

    Rawls/Davis can battle it out with the mid/late round pick for the final RB spot.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:20 pm
  • massari wrote:The Seahawks apparently graded SS Delano Hill with a 1st or 2nd round grade last draft, so they might already have Kam's replacement to go along with Bradley McDougald.


    Well we'll see. They graded Germain Ifedi pretty high and look where that got us...

    I haven't seen anything from Hill to make me think he is the next Kam. It's early though.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:29 pm
  • hawkfan68 wrote:They have plenty of DBs already. They have DeAndre Elliott on IR (should be back next season), Mike Tyson, and Akeem King on PS. Their biggest need would be DT if Richardson isn't re-signed and DE. Need to work on the Dline again and running back. There are some good rbs in this draft. Probably looking at another TE if they let Graham walk too.


    They don't need a quantity of DB's, they need starting quality. And as great as Elliott is on Special Teams, I thought he struggled in coverage. In my opinion none of our CB's (except for Sherman) are of the same quality as Adoree Jackson, for example.

    That's the kind of quality we need. Frankly I don't even see Shaq Griffin as having that quality. Guy keeps getting beat deep...

    I'm comfortable with Luke Willson and Nick Vannett at TE. I don't think they need to invest there.

    What I would really like to see is for them to pick up an impactful rookie at any position. It could be a anywhere (DB, LB, DL) on Defense and on Offense I would take someone anywhere except OL. And this is ONLY because I have no faith in the FO and Tom Cable to evaluate OL Talent.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:30 pm
  • I would prefer for the Hawks to go sign a vet RB with some life left, and stay clear of the Lacy, AP, Charles type group. With Carson still in the fold, Im not sure if we need to spend another pick given the limited number of them this year on a RB.

    I would like us to grab a stud CB, and a potential TE replacement for jimmy if he leaves. Gotta make sure Russ gets some weapons.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Tue Nov 28, 2017 12:41 pm
  • This will be a very interesting off season leading up to the draft. I think Sherm will come back strong and Shaq will have a full off season in the PC defensive back school. Though it's almost a guarantee he will take one or two late DBs.

    Very deep RB class this year and Pete wants a great running game. Could see him grabbing someone early with the one cut power/explosion that this style of running game needs. Trim the fat at the position.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:56 pm
  • Linebacker, we keep picking them late, signing UDFAs, and Free Agents.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:26 pm
  • I’m hoping we are looking to draft a good OC and an OLC. Any one heard of any of these available in this upcoming draft?
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:26 am
  • IMO- Seahawks draft needs are as follows;
    ---Round-1-DE/Edge, (replacement for Avril & you can't have enough pass rush. Need high pick to get a good one) NOTE: I'd expect 1 or 2 trade downs to get more picks.--Their late 1-st traded for a high 2-nd & a late 3-rd, then trade the high rd-2 for a mid rd-2 and a 4-th or 5-th. I am thinking they will probably do trade downs to get more picks, but for this post they are not reflected herein. This is very necessary due to the lack of picks between late Rd-1 and late Rd-4.
    ---Round-4-RB, (replacement for several RB's, especially Fat Lacy.)
    ---Round-5-WR, (PRich may be leaving & thus creates a need.)
    ---Round-5-CB, (B/U CB to add to the mix is a big need.)
    ---Round-5-OLB, (A Will LB is a need.)
    ---Round-7-OL, (prefer a big ROT, or a big OLG, also a big need if you don't trust Ifedi, et. al. to continue development.)
    ---Round-7-FS or TE (Best available FS/TE at this point in the draft? This late in the draft you just hope to find a sleeper.)
    ---Round-7-PK (place kicker) please. (Any kicker could be a big improvement over the head case we have now.)
    ---UDFA's: DT, RB, OL, & more DB's & LB's.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:26 pm
  • If Sheldon Richardson, McDowell and Jordan come back, is a pass rusher really more of a priority over improving the run game with a stud RB and a O-lineman? Clint Hurtt seems to be getting the most out of everybody they put in there on the DL.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Thu Nov 30, 2017 3:21 pm
  • I want to see great investments in safety and running back. Everything else is BPA.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Thu Nov 30, 2017 7:19 pm
  • zchurch74 wrote:I’m hoping we are looking to draft a good OC and an OLC. Any one heard of any of these available in this upcoming draft?


    :ditto:
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:01 pm
  • RB is so overrated. Tonight the Dallas Cowboys ran roughshod over the Redskins with Alfred Morris as their RB. It's not about the RB, it's about the line. This is why we need to FIRE...TOM...CABLE!
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:06 pm
  • xgeoff wrote:RB is so overrated. Tonight the Dallas Cowboys ran roughshod over the Redskins with Alfred Morris as their RB. It's not about the RB, it's about the line. This is why we need to FIRE...TOM...CABLE!


    Morris kind of ran over everyone in Washington also, not flashy just gets yards and more yards.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:11 pm
  • xgeoff wrote:RB is so overrated. Tonight the Dallas Cowboys ran roughshod over the Redskins with Alfred Morris as their RB. It's not about the RB, it's about the line. This is why we need to FIRE...TOM...CABLE!


    Agree I would have no problem rolling with Carson, Procise, Mckissic, and Davis next year.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:54 pm
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    xgeoff wrote:RB is so overrated. Tonight the Dallas Cowboys ran roughshod over the Redskins with Alfred Morris as their RB. It's not about the RB, it's about the line. This is why we need to FIRE...TOM...CABLE!


    Agree I would have no problem rolling with Carson, Procise, Mckissic, and Davis next year.



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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Sat Dec 02, 2017 9:10 am
  • I question whether OL is a priority need. Probably get one with a late day three pick.

    I think Seattle will consider Duane Brown's traded selection as our draft spend on the OL.

    Without any day 2 picks, depth and value at individual position groups will drive the selections more than in previous drafts. With Fant and Roos, I expect Seattle feels pretty solid at the developmental OL prospects. And I don't see us getting anything more than that in day three at the position. So unless we punt every other need to day three and select an OL player with our one early pick -- I see OL dropping almost off the radar in this draft.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Sat Dec 02, 2017 10:00 am
  • Still think we have players but lack ummm the correct direction in their coaching and or utilization or scheme. With as many picks as we have had going back to Okung who seems to do well other places and not get tossed around like a rag doll and commit penalties at the rate only Ifedi could appreciate, throwing dirt by tables spoons into a hole the size iof the Grand Canyon and expecting it to get filled isn't going to work.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:24 pm
  • I really think we need a CB and a FS. When I mean FS. I'm talking about a guy who has the speed like Earl Thomas and and cover a good amount of range. Of course, there won't be a duplicate of Earl Thomas, but try to find someone who can at least be near that and maybe coach him up. Not like Steven Terrell. :roll:

    Assuming Seattle gets Sheldon Richardson back, they should look to getting a replacement for Cliff Avril.

    OL: I think once Fant comes back, the coaches might put him at right tackle to replace Ifedi as backup. I honestly don't know if Justin Britt will come back.

    Kicker: Yes, draft a kicker in the last round and bring him in for competition to push Walsh.

    SS: Someone mention that Hill was suppose to be an eventual replacement for Kam? If not, get someone here at this spot. Other wise, I would get a FS like I mentioned earlier.

    CB: You can never have too many CBs, get someone here.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Sat Dec 02, 2017 12:46 pm
  • I want us to take a late-round flyer on Shaquille Griffin's twin brother, Shaquem. He's having a hell of a game for UCF in the conference championship.
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Mon Dec 04, 2017 2:33 pm
  • SeatownJay wrote:I want us to take a late-round flyer on Shaquille Griffin's twin brother, Shaquem. He's having a hell of a game for UCF in the conference championship.


    Now THAT would be interesting!
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Mon Dec 04, 2017 3:12 pm
  • SeatownJay wrote:I want us to take a late-round flyer on Shaquille Griffin's twin brother, Shaquem. He's having a hell of a game for UCF in the conference championship.


    He's really good. What's even more amazing is that he's one-handed and still playing well. For a CB that has to be tough but he's overcome it. He would be a nice add to the Seahawks.

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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Mon Dec 04, 2017 5:11 pm
  • hawkfan68 wrote:
    SeatownJay wrote:I want us to take a late-round flyer on Shaquille Griffin's twin brother, Shaquem. He's having a hell of a game for UCF in the conference championship.


    He's really good. What's even more amazing is that he's one-handed and still playing well. For a CB that has to be tough but he's overcome it. He would be a nice add to the Seahawks.

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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Sun Dec 10, 2017 7:22 pm
  • No chance Barkley will fall to us.

    The two Notre Dame lineman may fall towards the bottom half of the first round but since offensive lineman are a hot commodity, it's unlikely.

    It's likely Schneider and Carroll do not like any first rounders as they always do.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Mon Dec 18, 2017 6:26 am
  • After putting some thought into it I'm totally not convinced RB in the 1st is the way to go.

    Our run game isn't down to ineffective RB's, it's down to ineffective lineman and coaching.

    I'd be happy with a DE, WR or S with the first pick.
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:04 am
  • Having a dynamic RB option to take the heat off of the QB goes a looooong way in this league.

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Mon Dec 18, 2017 7:01 pm
  • original poster wrote:After putting some thought into it I'm totally not convinced RB in the 1st is the way to go.

    Our run game isn't down to ineffective RB's, it's down to ineffective lineman and coaching.

    I'd be happy with a DE, WR or S with the first pick.

    Assuming they can re-sign McDougald, it seems like they're fine at S with him, Delano Hill and Tedric Thompson even if Kam doesn't come back.

    Hoping they can somehow get Graham and P Rich back for like $6M per each MAX and place the franchise tag on Sheldon Richardson for a year to see how McDowell does next season. If they have faith in Dion Jordan and Brandon Jackson, DE might not be much of a need.

    WR Martavis Bryant might be available this off-season and only has a 700k cap hit....cheap replacement for Graham and/or Paul Richardson if the Hawks can't fit them under the cap at a good price.

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Wed Dec 20, 2017 7:38 am
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Sat Dec 23, 2017 3:06 pm
  • Rashaad Penny is rolling over the Army defense in the Armed Forces bowl. Every time I've seen him play, he's been impressive. He is exactly what the Seahawks are missing. He's an all-around back - running, receiving, and blocking. Just what they need.
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Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:00 am
  • massari wrote:The Seahawks apparently graded SS Delano Hill with a 1st or 2nd round grade last draft, so they might already have Kam's replacement to go along with Bradley McDougald.

    A positive offseason with good coaching for Delano Hill and Tedric Thompson will help our safety depth. I think they both have high upside going forward...re-signing Mcdougald in the meantime is key.

    RB depth is needed
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Re: Seahawks Draft Needs
Tue Dec 26, 2017 10:01 am
  • hawkfan68 wrote:Rashaad Penny is rolling over the Army defense in the Armed Forces bowl. Every time I've seen him play, he's been impressive. He is exactly what the Seahawks are missing. He's an all-around back - running, receiving, and blocking. Just what they need.

    I like Penny, too!

    Some people have said he runs too upright...and has played inferior competition. I like him and think he may be a good player. I'm also a fan of Coleman from UW.
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Tue Dec 26, 2017 1:14 pm
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    hawkfan68 wrote:Rashaad Penny is rolling over the Army defense in the Armed Forces bowl. Every time I've seen him play, he's been impressive. He is exactly what the Seahawks are missing. He's an all-around back - running, receiving, and blocking. Just what they need.

    I like Penny, too!

    Some people have said he runs too upright...and has played inferior competition. I like him and think he may be a good player. I'm also a fan of Coleman from UW.


    Coleman is good one too. I don't know what knock about running upright is. To me it seems nitpicky. Can't find a reason to criticize so let's pull the running form card. Chris Warren ran upright, so did Eric Dickerson, and Todd Gurley runs upright. They all are/were very productive in that style.
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